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Re: IHRA red light revision in the future?
[Re: Triple Threat]
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09/15/09 03:35 PM
09/15/09 03:35 PM
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Oh i'm sorry i forgot i was on Moparts where eveyone thinks they know everything about everything...and anyone that disagrees is wrong..NOT!!!
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Re: IHRA red light revision in the future?
#468753
09/15/09 05:30 PM
09/15/09 05:30 PM
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plasticfantastic
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Lifting is one thing slamming your brakes on is another..and quite a few of the guys i race with consider it cheating...what you would do to me at my track??...maybe losing??...
you didnt say slamming on the brakes, you said using the brakes, there is a huge difference, you said brake lights, not slamming on the brakes, you said in other posts that using the brakes is cheating, you need to keep your comments straight.
what would i do at your track? well since you have that lame duck mentality of, dial true never lift, i'd follow you up, put a tenth in my pocket, cut a decent/safe light and then play with you top end, because i could.
since i know you are going balls out and that you dont lift or hit the brakes i'll have a tenth to play with, I can make that up down track, catch you, push you out, dumping at the line... or put a fender on you and dump on you at the line.
I'd know if i caught you early that i was running fast, so i'd be ready to dump you as i'm pushing you out, if i cant catch you then i know i'm running off and i'll just push you out thinking you could be running fast, KNOWING YOU WONT LIFT, I'll expect you to break out becuase you obviously dont understand the concept of get there first without going faster then what you dialed.
then when you bought back in, I'd follow you up again and do it all over...
if you dont know how to play top end, youre a sitting duck a majority of the time.
you said about how you cant even voice your opinion if it doesnt match what others think, the problem is that youre voicing your opinion and stating something that isnt a rule, (the only thing said about brakes at the line is, no excessive braking, which is COMMON SENSE) using brakes isnt considering cheating by the majority here, hell, by everyone here except you, and when youre called out on it asking, Just to explain it, you change it saying, oh no i mean this... well thats not what you said. i'll race you in my street car, and i'll be all over my ABS brakes, Youll know i stood on it, but i didnt skid, I didnt lock them up, I just scrubbed off ET and put you on the trailer.
, just ask the people that you know are good bracket racers here on this site, Larry? Lonnie? Pat Norton? Bob George? since youre so fond of Pinks, then ask some of the winners of Pinks that are on this board, would they lift when racing handicapped? is that intelligent racing or is it cheating?
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Re: IHRA red light revision in the future?
[Re: Garceau]
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09/15/09 07:05 PM
09/15/09 07:05 PM
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Darrell
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Ol Steve Taylor is still able to ruffle some feathers I see.
You don't know how maney nights Steve talked to me about this, but to tell you the truth, I would like to try it out for 1 season. 
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Re: IHRA red light revision in the future?
[Re: B3422W5]
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09/15/09 07:36 PM
09/15/09 07:36 PM
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Garceau
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Unbelievable, I just cannot understand why anyone would be against correcting a rule that places slower racers at a disadvantage everytime he stages against a faster car. It's just pure logic that says the faster cars have an advantage with that rule. I can definitely understand why the fast guys do not want the rule changed.
I have always been a supporter of this change and in discussions with NHRA several years ago provided them with results of a Monte Carlo simulation which proved without a doubt that the faster car has the advantage. They just wouldn't listen.
HERE'S HOPING IT FINALLY GETS CHANGED!!!!
Here is hoping it doesnt
Not a single good thing could be said for making that change.. High performance makers would sell less because everybody could live with a 13 second car, there would be no reason to spend money in the economy building roll cages, buying trick heads, etc, etc, etc.
Oh, and the 28 fans in the stands at a bracket race watching 7 and 8 and 9 second cars..expect that to be about 5 fans, watching 13 and 15 second cars lumber down the track  
I dont know how this subject could possibly have even come up 
Nobody is making anyone build a faster car now. Its their choice. I dont think it would hurt any parts houses, but I do think it would increase car counts.
Spectators? They arent in the stands to watch Top Sportsman either. So whats the difference? They dont come to watch fast bracket cars, so no change there.
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Re: IHRA red light revision in the future?
[Re: slantzilla]
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09/16/09 01:12 AM
09/16/09 01:12 AM
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Newport, Mi
Evil Spirit
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So I will ask again...maybe it should be a seperate poll.
If we started off when bracket racing was conceived with the worst red light rule. Now someone asked if we wanted to go to the first red light rule.
Would we switch?
Kevin, when I started racing at US 30 back in the '70's, if both cars went red you were both out. Same with break-outs. If you broke out when your opponent went red you were out too. If both cars redlit/broke out in the final both got second place money. 
Exactly - and the people that would put up dial-ins that were slower than they could run were labeled "Sandbaggers" and run off, too. That's where the term "Sandbagger" started - putting sandbags or other ballast in for time runs, then dumping it for eliminations. Used to be taboo, now it's okay because everybody does it. Racing seems to have went in other directions than other sports. It's still considered cheating in other handicap sports (league bowling, golf, etc) to sandbag, but ok to brake dump in racing. A batter that gets caught looking back at the catcher to see where the next pitch is coming gets tossed, but it's ok to use a delay box to leave off the other lanes tree. So I can't see people agreeing on the red light rule - too many different agendas. 
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