Re: oil on spark plugs
[Re: kbeeper69]
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09/08/09 02:48 AM
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I had a similar issue a few weeks back, though not as global (I only had One plug fouling.)
The engine had had a complete valve-job with New Springs, Seals around six months earlier.
Then, it started fouling the #7 plug. Thought it must be rings (since the valve job was so recent.)
Tested compression, and all eight cylinders were within specifications.
Changed out the Oil-Seals on that one cylinder, and the smoke and oil-fouling ended.
May or may not be your situation. Another possibility, oil leaking past intake gasket.
Good Luck.
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Re: oil on spark plugs
[Re: kbeeper69]
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09/08/09 09:31 AM
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440 intakes are bad for leaking on the underside of the intake gasket. if you had the heads milled a bit and not the intake sides or the intake the intake is a little wider than the V it sits down in and does not seal perfect underneath allowing it to suck oil. often applying RTV to both sides of the intake gasket at the ports tightening snug then waiting 2 hours and tighten good works. don't be afraid to retighten more next morning and again in a week .
I also assume you have a good PVC valve and an open breather on other valve cover
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Re: oil on spark plugs
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the thing about the bathtub gasket leak I described it leaks (more allows oil to seep in) underneath so unless you got a way to get down in the motor lifter valley and spray the underside at the bottom of the ports that don't always work. Pull the intake easy 5 minute job and you can usually see if the oil has been getting sucked up into the ports!
Valve seals usually smokes when sitting 1/2 and mostly goes away and under WOT smokes some as it will suck oil past the intake valve.
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Re: oil on spark plugs
[Re: kbeeper69]
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09/17/09 10:37 PM
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Does the engine ever puff a cloud of smoke at initial start up? I built a Victor headed 511" engine and used the valve seals that were supplied with the heads from Edelbrock, that engine smoked until the seals were replaced. The ones that were supplied didnt want to stay attached to the valve guides. I dont know how stock heads oil drain back is, but the Edelbrock will pool with enough oil at the top end to cover the tops of the valve guides; so if the valve stem seals seal poorly to the valve or the valve guide, you will have problems with smoke.
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Re: oil on spark plugs
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09/17/09 11:09 PM
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i am seeing oil on the bolts also.ive never used any sealer on the bolts,ill give it a try.silicone for the end seals silicone around the head ports and i smeared silicone around the valley pan ports both sides ,im using the blue silicone.
Yes, I use this stuff on the intake bolts now. Specifically made for sealing threads that go thru into oil.
http://permatex.com/products/Automotive/...ead_Sealant.htm
Funny how my factory service manual mentioned nothing about sealing the threads yet after I pulled the stock intake and put it back on they did seep oil. And it's not like they even go into an oil pressure area, and they go downhill yet oil still made its way up there.
Don't use silicone on the bolts, when you take them out it drops chunks of silicone onto the tops of the head under the valve cover. I did it and had to clean out the silicone and chased the threads with a tap to make sure I got that crap cleaned out. Now I just use the thread sealer.
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Re: oil on spark plugs
[Re: kbeeper69]
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09/18/09 12:02 AM
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did all the above ,still sucking oil at the bottom of the ports. im giong to try a new gasket ,then a new intake. anything elese i shiould look at ??
Were the heads milled? The block decked? Stock heads? Got a deck height from the machinist by any chance?
Sounds like you checked the intake/head angle. You got .004" around the entire perimeter of the intake, correct?
Is your intake too high or too low? Did you hog the intake holes out on the top or bottom?
You may have to break one of the rules in engine building...
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