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PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 05:53 PM
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I was just reading a post AL ALGUIRE had put up and he was talking about putting his trans cooler at the rear of his car. I have almost no space at the front of my Duster because of the CSR waterpump, aluminum radiator and electric fan. It is almost too tight of a squeeze to put the transcooler with the electric fan that is mounted to it on the front side of the radiator. Will the trans cooler cool good mounted back toward the rear of the car? Who has tried this? Anyone got pictures?
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 06:54 PM
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The cooler doesn't know if its in front or back of the car. Its happy as long as there is cool air moving through it, front or rear! If you think you have a spot in the back for it, great. Keep in mind you want to protect the cooler from debris, so not behind the rear tires,
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:19 PM
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A buddy of mine has one of those finned Moroso heat sink types mounted next to the trans under the car.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:25 PM
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can't help with a pic tonite..but i run a cooler mounted half way back on the car(probably half way down the door.)..it's a Moroso cooler part #41200..i mounted it on the frame connector and ran the line from there..could get a pic tomorrow if your interested.. 
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:45 PM
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I would definitely be interested in a picture. It is a good size cooler.
The part number through summit racing is:
PRM-12311
I tried to make the part # a link but was not successful, if anyone else can link it I would appreciate it.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:46 PM
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I have a fan on my trans cooler. It is just simply bolted between the frame rails in the rear.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:47 PM
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Mine is a finned heat exchanger. I mounted it to my tranny crossmember. I have a tube chassis and I can drop the tranny (727) with the crossmember/ heat exchanger still plumbed to the tranny. No fuss, no messes. I don't have a tranny guage but the fluid is checked everypass. I run8.55 @ 154
Very pleased with this setup.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 08:49 PM
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AL, is the fan on top or bottom of the cooler?
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 10:00 PM
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Here is a crappy picture..Dont mind the ugliness going on it is just mocked up now. We will be dropping it about 3/4", the fan is on the bottom as you can see. We will get it all cleaned up once it is wired and plummed.
This looks like a really good idea. Plenty of room to work with and plenty of space for air to circulate.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/06/09 11:59 PM
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I put mine in back over winter. It seems to do fine as long as I remember to turn the fan on. The temp. runs around 180-185 with the fan, but got up around 220 without. I mounted it on the framerail in front of the rearend on the driver side. I also made a block to connect the braided line to and ran steel line to the cooler. If the trans. needs to come out, the lines can be disconnected from the block.
Mine is mounted very similar to yours....no fan and trans temp is always great...
Rickster
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/07/09 12:40 AM
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Well, I have already got the one with the S bend. I guess I will have to try it then if it doesn't do good I will get the B&M cooler. Has anyone here run the S bend cooler or similar type to what I have in the picture above?
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/07/09 07:14 AM
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The cooler without the "s" bends is a stacked plate cooler.Many companies have them besides B&M.
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We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/07/09 10:54 AM
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Well, I have already got the one with the S bend. I guess I will have to try it then if it doesn't do good I will get the B&M cooler. Has anyone here run the S bend cooler or similar type to what I have in the picture above?
Just thought I would give this one a little bump before I got started on my car today.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/07/09 11:52 AM
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1. the lines have to be bigger because of line loss.
2. make sure the lines cannot be crushed by a jack, etc. and out of the path of rocks thrown up by wheels.
3. the cooler definitely does know it's not in front of the car - because it's out of the airstream.
4. even with a fan: does the moving air under the car (generated by car speed) go in the same direction as the fan (increase), or the opposite direction (decrease)? You may to move it around somewhat.
5. is the hot air exit area between the cooler fins and the bodywork at least as large as the total of exposed fin area? Example: 10" × 10" cooler is 100 square inches. For all 4 sides bleeding air, each one must be 25 sq. in. area, and if 10" long must be 2.5" away from the panel. If only 3 sides are exposed (1 ends at a panel), they must be 100" ÷ 3 = 33", or 3.3" away, etc. If the air enters on the body side it should be 25-50% larger.
6. hot air rises - if the fan is below it should push, etc.
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Re: PUTTING TRANS COOLER TOWARD REAR OF CAR ???????????????
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09/07/09 12:27 PM
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1. the lines have to be bigger because of line loss.
2. make sure the lines cannot be crushed by a jack, etc. and out of the path of rocks thrown up by wheels.
3. the cooler definitely does know it's not in front of the car - because it's out of the airstream.
4. even with a fan: does the moving air under the car (generated by car speed) go in the same direction as the fan (increase), or the opposite direction (decrease)? You may to move it around somewhat.
5. is the hot air exit area between the cooler fins and the bodywork at least as large as the total of exposed fin area? Example: 10" × 10" cooler is 100 square inches. For all 4 sides bleeding air, each one must be 25 sq. in. area, and if 10" long must be 2.5" away from the panel. If only 3 sides are exposed (1 ends at a panel), they must be 100" ÷ 3 = 33", or 3.3" away, etc. If the air enters on the body side it should be 25-50% larger.
6. hot air rises - if the fan is below it should push, etc.
Those are some good points to keep in mind. Thanks.
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