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Pic Request External Oiling #452762
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Can someone post up a pic of how there single line external oiling is hooked up / routed ??? I have a 71 Dart.... looks tight in there......



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Re: Pic Request External Oiling [Re: moparniac] #452763
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Have fun some take line comes out the back of the cap and some out the top (er bottom??)

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You can but the conversion type use stock HV pump needs longer drive gear I have both for sale

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How my one line goes back

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on mine strait out the back of cap not an option because of motor mount!! when I go e ears it may be??

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On my 69 Dart I could never seem to get it to fit with stock mounts I even ground away at the steering box mount, one of the many reason I went with a motor plate.



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If you use a aftermarket block, it makes it slick, and you dont need that leak prone milodon center section. You just need the oil pump cover with a single fitting for a single line. This lets you use your standard length oil pump shaft and gear setup. Then on a duel line setup One line runs from the block port (near timing chain cover) to the pickup. and you already have the other coming from the oil pump cover. This duel line system is great and feeds about any engine. Its not expensive, cause all your out is the pump cover, and the lines/fittings, but this is on the aftermarket blocks.
So If I was going to use a single line system with a stock block....
I would just by the pump cover, probably by it separate from Milodon, or Muscle Motors has a nice one also. Use a stock HV oil pump, use your current bronze gear, which that save a bunch of money not needing to buy another.
Buy the static pickup from 440Source. Its a large pickup. And install it in a standard pan.
The Indy pump cover is nice but over priced IMO, I ran it, and it was a nice piece...but was like $225 just for the pump cover.

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Re: Pic Request External Oiling [Re: Dodgem] #452769
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on mine strait out the back of cap not an option because of motor mount!! when I go e ears it may be??




What type of pump is that... its slick..... So I guess going with that pump it will work...


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You may want to buy a pump body or sandwich pick up with the line that loops out the front that will allow you to snake it back along the side of the oil pan like my front line!

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You may want to buy a pump body or sandwich pick up with the line that loops out the front that will allow you to snake it back along the side of the oil pan like my front line!





It looks to me like the front line hookup is the way to go with no clearance issues also...


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Re: Pic Request External Oiling [Re: Dodgem] #452772
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you can buy just this the line and a single line pick up PN 21350 it can be used to convert a standard HV pump to external pick up

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the line

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Re: Pic Request External Oiling [Re: moparniac] #452774
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Front line would be better.. I have a dual line and had to cut some of the steering box and re brace it to clear the line.. I can take some pictures if that will help ya..

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then your pick up of choice

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Here is the only one I can find...Dual line from the Hemi.


Bottom side sort of, oh yeah ignore the hole


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on mine strait out the back of cap not an option because of motor mount!! when I go e ears it may be??




What type of pump is that... its slick..... So I guess going with that pump it will work...



milidon pump

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If you have the new World block you can avoid that problem. The World block is drilled and tapped on the front for an external oil input. Then you can use a standard pump and cover and avoid the clearance issues.

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Here is the only one I can find...Dual line from the Hemi.







Al after looking at my car the oil line will route the way your is in that pic.... Is that a milodon pump also


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this is a stock pump sandwiched between that plate and a milidon cap/cover

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PN 21350 on a stock pump!

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here is a pic of mine with the milidon pump:



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This is the room I have before megablock... not sure the adapter typr would work!


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you need a alterkation, thats what i had to do to fit my maxx


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you may well be doing some modifications! LOL!!!
I'll measure a milidon pump verse a stock and so on if I have a stock got a new milidon pump on the shelf

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I think Im gonna just run stock oiling......





Not sure how I would hook up elephant ears either



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What if I welded in a custom steel plate shown in red and had the elepahant ears in yellow bolt to the red supports..... and cut the darn k member mounts off!



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Of course that is always a plan and likely a good one. My long term is the same elephant ears, another K member with the mounts cut off so I can run my second line straight back without going down under the steering box as now with lots of mods to get it through!! LOL!!

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If you use a aftermarket block, it makes it slick, and you dont need that leak prone milodon center section. You just need the oil pump cover with a single fitting for a single line. This lets you use your standard length oil pump shaft and gear setup. Then on a duel line setup One line runs from the block port (near timing chain cover) to the pickup. and you already have the other coming from the oil pump cover. This duel line system is great and feeds about any engine. Its not expensive, cause all your out is the pump cover, and the lines/fittings, but this is on the aftermarket blocks.
So If I was going to use a single line system with a stock block....
I would just by the pump cover, probably by it separate from Milodon, or Muscle Motors has a nice one also. Use a stock HV oil pump, use your current bronze gear, which that save a bunch of money not needing to buy another.
Buy the static pickup from 440Source. Its a large pickup. And install it in a standard pan.
The Indy pump cover is nice but over priced IMO, I ran it, and it was a nice piece...but was like $225 just for the pump cover.

Hemi block oil port (World Block)





looks like a nice iron block with that port for external pickup!

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