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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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09/03/07 09:39 AM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them... 
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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And, besides an airscoop facing rearward looks unlogical, I also THINK rearfacing scoops just don't work.
Not true, we tested a 4 and 6" cowl on the same car against a HEMI scoop. The cowl was actually faster every time. I catches the air from the windshield, and lots of it.
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Why is there a rule for rear facing scoops ONLY. How is such a goofy rule even created...must be NHRA. Rule was probally created by the same guy that created the new points system for the Pro's?? 
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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09/03/07 10:15 AM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Why is there a rule for rear facing scoops ONLY. How is such a goofy rule even created...must be NHRA. Rule was probally created by the same guy that created the new points system for the Pro's??
Believe me, I AGREE. It's not NHRA tho.
It's the local heads up stuff. Not just local to me either.
The idea was to keep the radial cars looking "street" like for the fans. Never mind the f/c cage and chute.
The motor comes out 6 1/2 inches from the fender line. Forward, backward, big bulge with no opening, it still has to be taller than the motor. Not real street like, but I didn't make the rules.
Straight from ORSCA website for E/Z street rules...
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Stock bodylines must be retained. Fiberglass pieces limited to hood and bumpers and deck. Hood scoops allowed but must not protrude above halfway position on windshield. No forward facing hood scoops allowed, unless equipped from factory. All factory glass windows required . Lexan not allowed (Trucks may replace rear window with Lexan for roll bar exit). Factory spoilers allowed. After market or custom wings not allowed. Factory grill and headlights required. Complete factory core support and inner fenders required but may be notched for header or roll bar clearance. Stock floor pans required front to rear but may be notched for sub-frame connectors. Trunk pan may be notched for fuel cell or fuel pump placement, but must remain intact. Wheelbase must remain within factory specs, within +/- 1"
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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Outlaw 10.5, I LOVE the car you have the hood on. I wouldnt be for sale would it?? 
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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Darryl...I really your car dude.... 
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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I remember a while back NHRA(I think) talked to W.J. about forward facing scoops on the Prostock cars. He said in the testing he/they did it took a certain number of hp to push it through the air but I guess the rewards are worth it...ram air effect.
In the yellow Demons case the cowl hood was put on so it would be more aerodynamic.
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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Randy I admire your car and efforts but do you really think a large cowl hood looks like a street car? I would work on getting that bs rule changed. sounds like a rule made by someone who runs a cowl hood and thinks there is an advantage to the other cars that have a front faced scoop 
Easier said than done, lol. They are starting to allow more stuff. I will probably end up getting it cut and making a lexan top for the carbs. That seems to be acceptable. My scoop actually doesn't look as bad as it does in that pic now that I had it lowered. It was terrible then, but it was done about two days before that race so there was nothing that could be done. My hood weighs 31lbs, so I need a new one anyway. It's a heavy duty bolt on type.
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
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The only good thing I can say about my cowl hood is it does not try to come off. That said it worked great with Nitrous but is a power killer for me on my car. Trying to redirect air before going out again. 900Hp should easily run more than 152 MPH @ 2,940. My big engine really shuts down on top end 144 MPH with cowl hood. It pulls great in low gear but in high gear gives up at 8,000 RPM. On chassis dyno we don't have those problems.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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and the blower hat looks cool hangin out i think lol 
And it does function fairly well. There is a high pressure area at the base of the windshield.
