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Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
Posted By: BILLYJAY
Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:23 AM
Just wondered why all of a sudden Guys are using a Chevy Cowl hood scoop on these MOPARS?? Taking a POLL --YEA or NEA ??? cast your votes and pictures...Here is my Cousing's old 73 Backhalf CUDA...
Posted By: smokinwoody
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:27 AM
if you need the clearance and you dont want a forward facing scoop...what would you use??
before cowl induction there was the reverse teardrop hood...Ford used those on the Thunderbolt Fairlanes for clearance..
others started using them too...so would it be called a Ford hood..
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:29 AM
no chevy hoods on a mopar.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:30 AM
cowl hood's aren't just for chevy's anymore.
Posted By: RoadRnnr69
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:32 AM
It is my understanding that some classes/tracks do not allow forward facing scoops.
It is the ONLY choice in those classes at those tracks.
Posted By: sgcuda
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:32 AM
You could take the top of an old Pro Stock style like mine and turn it around. That should make for some good conversation.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:37 AM
then how about this one ???
Posted By: dc426
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:43 AM
NMCA and many other racing sanctioning bodies do not allow forward facing hood scoops. That is why in the last decade you've seen an abundance of cowl hoods. People like what they see at the track and put them on their own cars. Personally I don't like them on some mopar body styles. But others I love'm. BTW, I still contend a 70 RR and GTX have cowl hoods. They just are not functioning.
DC
Posted By: superbee500
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:44 AM
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:47 AM
why not?...
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:51 AM
It's just a hood scoop, who cares what it originally came on. "Shakers" came on Cobra Jet Mustangs before Mopars and I don't see anyone calling those "Ford" scoops...... This will likely flame up all the purists. IMHO, I am not exactly enthralled with any of the factory Mopar offerings anyway. Most forward facing factory scoops are not high enough to be efficient at all, plus just because it is a Mopar scoop, does not mean a "six pack" scoop looks great on every mopar.
Monte
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:52 AM
because they look mean,that's why. I just got a new one,old one is 4 sale.PM me for details,but it will be cheap.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:53 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:54 AM
Because we get SICK of seeing Six Pack hoods????
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Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:54 AM
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:56 AM
And the best reason is because my Hero Gearjammerdart has one...
Posted By: dc426
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:56 AM
yep, they look mean on the right car
dc
Posted By: Ron Silva
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:59 AM
I thought about it a LONG TIME, because the LOOK is very important. Here is what I ended up with , VFN w/3" 6PK. JUst sat it on the car for the first time. I think I like it.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:00 AM
cowl hood
but foward facing
over 150 mph the cowl hood works
not a chevy thing , just like power glide trannis and 9 inch ford rears , it works on a race car
Posted By: superbee500
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:02 AM
Posted By: Sledge_57
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:04 AM
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because they look mean,that's why.
That and they WORK which is the best reason. 
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:08 AM
Need I say more???
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Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:08 AM
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:10 AM
Theyre but ugly. And a lot of mopar scoops are ugly too. Of course if someone wants to put one on there car it is their car and they can do what they want. If they like it they should do it, but they are still ugly
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:10 AM
Posted By: CumminsExpress
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:11 AM
only hood I could get with a molded in scoop
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:15 AM
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:15 AM
I'd guesstimate it's due to 2 things. The aforementioned forward facing hoodscoop rule (NMCA, Milan, etc), and the fact that a cowl hood matches more body styles without looking like total garbage. A perfect example is most any year Charger- I don't like how 6 pack scoops look on them at all, but a 4" cowl looks fine.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:15 AM
Posted By: Dale
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:29 AM
ProbLem soLved !
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:34 AM
I thought is was so you could mount some guages in there and see them in bright daylight.. or so the backfire from the NOS can defrost the windshield..
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:37 AM
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:42 AM
scoops that have been tried
Posted By: Big_Fish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:42 AM
Billy, just for the record, I'm the new owner of your "cousins" Cuda. The 6" cowl hood was too small so it's already off! With my tunnel ram and 2 1050 dominators the carbs were too close to the hood. Instead I'm hoping to use a Pro stock style hood scoop (ie similar to DTHEMI's). But if it doesn't work out I'm upgrading to an 8" cowl scoop from AAR Quality Fiberglass just for you
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:42 AM
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:43 AM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:43 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:47 AM
cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
Awsome car though.
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:48 AM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:53 AM
Posted By: Bigcube
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:53 AM
In my case engine placement dictated what scoop I could use. Besides it sort of grew on me.
What mopar scoop is at least 5" high all the way to the back of the hood? My motor is up about 3-4 " and back about 6". The back of the air cleaner is at the back of the hood.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:54 AM
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:04 AM
Alot of those cowl hoods I don't like. Some I do though..
I think for me personally the only car I ever wanted to put a cowl hood on was a project I had planned, a 440 tunnel ram 2x4bbl Jensen Interceptor. Never built the Jensen, so that's where the cowl hood ideas stopped.
I've seen MoPars where the cowl hoods looked good, but I've seen more Mopars that looked BAD with cowl hoods...
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:06 AM
Going from our iron head 360 to the W5 340 with Indy intake and blended spacer for dominator mandated a change from the Dart Sport scoop we used to run. By the way....my dad does not like this scoop but it works.
Posted By: CRT
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:12 AM
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I like the blue car in the far lane.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:26 AM
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:28 AM
I don't like GM type cowl hoods on any Mopar.But to each his own.
Posted By: sixpakx
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:33 AM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
randy(outlaw 10.5) hood and car is badazz 
Posted By: Schwinger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:34 AM
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Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR?????
Because there's a bunch of closet Chebbie fans 
Besides, they look right at home on a Camaro...I mean, Challenger 
Posted By: tazmaniac
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:47 AM
Someone who is good with Ma Mopars archives ,,you will find that Chrysler actually was the first of the companies to fool around with a cowl hood ,,if memory serves me correct it was in the early to mid 50's so actually Chebby is copying us
Posted By: BILLYJAY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:49 AM
Adam ,I know who you are and even though i helped build that cuda many years ago..I always liked the original hood and scoop that was on the car..when he changed to that cowl on the Cuda..i never liked it..Just my preference...I do agree that some cars look ok with it but others dont..someone need to mold us Mopar guys a few new style scoops..
Posted By: nhramark
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:53 AM
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I like the blue car in the far lane.
I thought that was you lurking back there.
Posted By: 1BadLiLCharger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 04:25 AM
At least I got that line out of the middle of mine to be a 'little' different than the Chevy's.
Posted By: BigBlockMopar
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:26 AM
Dale,
Spot on!
340Shorty,
Well at least those tunnelvision-scoopies
help excavating the hot air under the hood I guess and releave the underhood pressure in the process if you have an unsealed hood.
IMO the most 2" ones still look fairly ok, but anything over 3" is plain dorky.
And, besides an airscoop facing rearward looks unlogical, I also THINK rearfacing scoops just don't work.
When I take my own cars as an example, when I go driving just after it rained, the drops on the front/middle of the hood are all forced back by the wind, and when they're at the rear of the hood near the windscreen they all kinda lay there and just run of to the sides when taking a corner.
By the way, what's the reasoning behind this NMCA-rule with scoops having to face the wrong way?
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:38 AM
has really nothing to do with them being a chevy. I just think there butt ugly. looks like someone flipped a boat over and stuck it on a hood
Posted By: MoparforLife
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 12:26 PM
If they worked so great as some say prosstockers would be using them. Are they??? NOT. Don't say it is because their scoops are not fastenened to the hood. That problem could be worked out.
I know for a fact that I lost ET when I gave one a try even if it were fugly. Function over fashion. There are getting to be more Chevie guys running the "Mopar" scoops. Well at least they are facing the right way.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 12:32 PM
Posted By: Dragula
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 12:34 PM
Posted By: jyrki
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 12:36 PM
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If they worked so great as some say prosstockers would be using them. Are they??? NOT. Don't say it is because their scoops are not fastenened to the hood. That problem could be worked out.
I know for a fact that I lost ET when I gave one a try even if it were fugly. Function over fashion. There are getting to be more Chevie guys running the "Mopar" scoops. Well at least they are facing the right way.
Same with me, lost considerably performance (speed) switching the six pack in to a "cow induction" scoop in a low 10 sec at 135 mph A-body. Switched back to six pack, and the performance was restored.
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 12:41 PM
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I don't like GM type cowl hoods on any Mopar.But to each his own.
Looks like a mail box.
Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:39 PM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:55 PM
And, besides an airscoop facing rearward looks unlogical, I also THINK rearfacing scoops just don't work.
Not true, we tested a 4 and 6" cowl on the same car against a HEMI scoop. The cowl was actually faster every time. I catches the air from the windshield, and lots of it.
Posted By: headhunter
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:56 PM
i like mine because it just about hides whats under the hood
Posted By: headhunter
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:58 PM
Posted By: draginmopars
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 01:59 PM
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cowl hood's aren't just for chevy's anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:02 PM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Why is there a rule for rear facing scoops ONLY. How is such a goofy rule even created...must be NHRA. Rule was probally created by the same guy that created the new points system for the Pro's??
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Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:15 PM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Why is there a rule for rear facing scoops ONLY. How is such a goofy rule even created...must be NHRA. Rule was probally created by the same guy that created the new points system for the Pro's??
Believe me, I AGREE. It's not NHRA tho.
It's the local heads up stuff. Not just local to me either.
The idea was to keep the radial cars looking "street" like for the fans. Never mind the f/c cage and chute.
The motor comes out 6 1/2 inches from the fender line. Forward, backward, big bulge with no opening, it still has to be taller than the motor. Not real street like, but I didn't make the rules.
Straight from ORSCA website for E/Z street rules...
Body
Stock bodylines must be retained. Fiberglass pieces limited to hood and bumpers and deck. Hood scoops allowed but must not protrude above halfway position on windshield. No forward facing hood scoops allowed, unless equipped from factory. All factory glass windows required . Lexan not allowed (Trucks may replace rear window with Lexan for roll bar exit). Factory spoilers allowed. After market or custom wings not allowed. Factory grill and headlights required. Complete factory core support and inner fenders required but may be notched for header or roll bar clearance. Stock floor pans required front to rear but may be notched for sub-frame connectors. Trunk pan may be notched for fuel cell or fuel pump placement, but must remain intact. Wheelbase must remain within factory specs, within +/- 1"
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:17 PM
Outlaw 10.5, I LOVE the car you have the hood on. I wouldnt be for sale would it??
Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:20 PM
Anythings for sale for the right $$
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:24 PM
Randy I admire your car and efforts but do you really think a large cowl hood looks like a street car? I would work on getting that bs rule changed. sounds like a rule made by someone who runs a cowl hood and thinks there is an advantage to the other cars that have a front faced scoop
Posted By: BENCHRACER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:27 PM
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Not true, we tested a 4 and 6" cowl on the same car against a HEMI scoop. The cowl was actually faster every time. I catches the air from the windshield, and lots of it.
I would agree with that. Don't think that they don't pickup air. I watch the cowl hood on the Demon lift up all the time down track so they must pull a heck of a lot of air off the windshield.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:27 PM
Posted By: buildanother
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:29 PM
Personal preference is what it is, and they DO look great on some mopars. The best reason I know of to use one is ability to spy on the carb area after you get one of them POPS through the carb, you can keep an eye on the magnitude of your fireball, if any.
Posted By: headhunter
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:35 PM
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Darryl...I really your car dude....
Rickster
thanks
Posted By: BENCHRACER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:36 PM
I remember a while back NHRA(I think) talked to W.J. about forward facing scoops on the Prostock cars. He said in the testing he/they did it took a certain number of hp to push it through the air but I guess the rewards are worth it...ram air effect.
In the yellow Demons case the cowl hood was put on so it would be more aerodynamic.
Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:37 PM
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Randy I admire your car and efforts but do you really think a large cowl hood looks like a street car? I would work on getting that bs rule changed. sounds like a rule made by someone who runs a cowl hood and thinks there is an advantage to the other cars that have a front faced scoop
Easier said than done, lol. They are starting to allow more stuff. I will probably end up getting it cut and making a lexan top for the carbs. That seems to be acceptable. My scoop actually doesn't look as bad as it does in that pic now that I had it lowered. It was terrible then, but it was done about two days before that race so there was nothing that could be done. My hood weighs 31lbs, so I need a new one anyway. It's a heavy duty bolt on type.
Posted By: Leon441
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:47 PM
The only good thing I can say about my cowl hood is it does not try to come off. That said it worked great with Nitrous but is a power killer for me on my car. Trying to redirect air before going out again. 900Hp should easily run more than 152 MPH @ 2,940. My big engine really shuts down on top end 144 MPH with cowl hood. It pulls great in low gear but in high gear gives up at 8,000 RPM. On chassis dyno we don't have those problems.
Posted By: NTOLERANCE
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 02:50 PM
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the original design of the cowl hood scoop was to direct cool air by picking it up from deflecting it off the windshield
And it does function fairly well. There is a high pressure area at the base of the windshield.
And to those that posted they went slower, have you given any consideration that the difference in air (be it less or more with the cowl hood) affected your a/f ratio at certain speeds?
Just a though.....
Cowl hoods DO FLOW AIR into the engine.
I dont like the looks either.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:06 PM
Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:07 PM
Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:15 PM
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:18 PM
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Randy I admire your car and efforts but do you really think a large cowl hood looks like a street car? I would work on getting that bs rule changed. sounds like a rule made by someone who runs a cowl hood and thinks there is an advantage to the other cars that have a front faced scoop
finally found something me and quicktree agree on!
My computer didn't pull up all the pictures but it did most of them, I think they would almost all look better if they were not so tall and they start at the front of the hood instead of 6 inches back, they just look dorky but a couple small changes might help. 
The hemi scoop looks better than the 6 pack scoop but is less functional. The hemi scoop was desighned mostly to make room while the 6 pack scoop was desighned to function, that is why it has some space under the opening, to keep it out of the turbulant boundarie layer of air. The best looking mopar scoops don't do much at all for function though, the A-body twin scoops.
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Posted By: 72chrgrally
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:35 PM
Who'd of thought a 6 1/2" cowl would look small on a Mopar? I've got one on my car because I like it and it's what the rules say. I am planning to block off the rear of the cowl and direct air in from behind the bumper, kind of like what ari440 posted of that Camaro on the first page. Lane Lambert has done the same thing on his N/A Dart and has seen positve results.
Steve
Posted By: Big_Fish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:38 PM
No problem Billy, just wanted you to know it is being changed. My carbs are several inches above the fender line so I need something that fits and nothing stock even comes close. Please read what Leon441 said about the performance advantage/disadvantage at the other end of the track vs dyno results. Tony also said he went through hell and back getting that hood (don't want to smear the company who made it on here). Aesthetically speaking, I don't think it looks as good on this body style as it did on my dart.
As you know it doesn't have inner fender wells and it has a lexan windshield so I can't compete in any of those events that would require a rear facing hood scoop. I did consider cutting it open and just let the air cleaners come through the cowl but once again the performance would be negatively affected. Do you happen to have any pics of the car with the previous hood prior to the cowl he put on? Was it a stock hood? Here's a pic of Darren's car with the exact same hood/scoop I'm going to put on. I think it fits the lines of the car aesthetically much better, I firmly believe I will have a performance gain (which trumps everything else to me), and I don't have to worry about meeting NMCA/track requirements restrictions because I have alot of other things that eliminate me from that class anyway. But when I had my dart I must say I did enjoy pissing off the purists with my 4" cowl hood just to be different. I need to get some pics of the new heart transplant.
Posted By: PlumCrazyCharger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 03:50 PM
I have an 8" cowl and also tried a new style pro stock scoop. With the pro stock scoop it was hard to see around and just didn't look right. I have the cowl seeled to the windshield and have a pro stock truck type induciton from the grill. 8"x18" opening sealed to the cowl.
With the cowl I can see the upper fenders and about knee height anywhere in front of the car.
The car MPH's really good. On motor I run 8.85's @ 161 MPH and with 150 NOS running 7.70's @ 174 MPH. Has a real stout Nitrous cam and real tight Nitrous converter...
Sean
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 04:10 PM
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 04:17 PM
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http://thephotob.com/viewpic.php?ppath=s...ed-5%20copy.jpg
That better, lol?
love the car Randy but it's still butt ugly.
Posted By: 1Fast340
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 04:48 PM
personaly i have a sixpack scoop on my duster but i had a L88 scoop on my 68chevelle i used to own and you just have to take a drive when it rains to understand how well they work if they are anywhere near correctly placed on the hood...
i dont care for this no chevyparts on my mopar, tell everyone who uses chevy rockers on there magnumheads...
or just tell any racecar driver that his car is wrong because its not all mopar since half the car is put togheter out of aftermarketparts anyway...
and just take those sixpacks of the 340´s and 440´s since they could be found on GM cars before they where used on mopars...
Posted By: MoparforLife
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 04:53 PM
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And to those that posted they went slower, have you given any consideration that the difference in air (be it less or more with the cowl hood) affected your a/f ratio at certain speeds?
Just a though.....
I dont like the looks either.
Yes mine was used over several shows with tune up changes to try match the performance to no avail. Also compared to previous data as prevailing conditions.
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Cowl hoods DO FLOW AIR into the engine.
But evidently not enough.
I have also seen rain drops just stay put on a widshield do the the pressure effect on them. Basially no movement to them. Like hitting something laying flat. That tells me that there is a low/no pressure area with little air or air movement to be drawn into the engine. Just a neutral area.
Posted By: 4404dart
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 05:05 PM
Posted By: Leigh
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 05:05 PM
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cowl hood gond BAD.....this may be an example of why people dont like them...
I actually had it lowered about two inches. The guy that did the hood screwed up. It was not supposed to keep getting taller as it went back.
However, when you guys can figure out how to put a Predator headed 654 with a sheet T/R and two fours under the hood without it being that tall, you let me know.
We are not allowed forward facing scoop for the most part.
Old pic, but you get the idea...
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/WSF/Img0458.JPG
Dude, with that pic I bow down totally. That is one awesome powerplant. 
Posted By: superbee500
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 05:10 PM
Ari440 you are going to make me buy a Duster
(and piss off my wife)
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 05:23 PM
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Ari440 you are going to make me buy a Duster (and piss off my wife)
Im going to get in trouble for this but
this my faverite pic of my car
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Posted By: Outlaw10_5
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 05:30 PM
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http://thephotob.com/viewpic.php?ppath=s...ed-5%20copy.jpg
That better, lol?
love the car Randy but it's still butt ugly.
Fair enuf, lol.
Better pic of the height problem.
http://www.outlawradial.net/WSN%2006/DSCN2401-medium.jpg
Personally, I like the cowl look. I don't think too many scoops look right on a boxy car.
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:21 PM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:22 PM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:23 PM
Posted By: superbee500
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:26 PM
Nice car Ari440 who's car is the yellow one
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:30 PM
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Nice car Ari440 who's car is the yellow one
sorry I dont remember the guys name
but its a cowl hood with a airdam in the front and air going to the carb
B1 moter
Posted By: 540dust
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:36 PM
Here's a conversation starter.
http://www.ohiocrank.com/attaboy.htmlHalf way down Super Pro winning Cuda.
Start with an AAR Cuda scoop, could be forward or rear facing however you desire of feel strongly about.
I perfer this over the Chevy scoops.
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 06:45 PM
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Nice car Ari440 who's car is the yellow one
Bruce Lagory, ran NMCA N/A class. Won multiple championships. Had a 500in B-1 motor with my old MC heads. Car was sold a couple years ago, have no idea where it is now.
Monte
Posted By: Ari440
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Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 07:07 PM
nobody uses this scoop anymore
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 07:12 PM
Ran NMCA "Real Street", which was a N/A class. The car had to carry a bunch of weight and came in around 3400lbs. He held the record and was virtually unbeatable for a couple years, until the GM boys got some really good conventional heads. The car ran in the 8.80-8.90 range. I think he might have gone a .70 or two in mineshaft air. Motor was a 511, done by Bishcoff(BES).
Monte
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 07:19 PM
I like this a heck of alot better than them dang gone ulgy cow hoods.
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 07:58 PM
this is the USA, and you are free to use chubby hoods if you want to. but, they're not for me!
Posted By: 383man
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 08:03 PM
Myself I dont care for them on Mopars. But I am a lover of Nostalgic SS cars and factory looking hot rods. So that is why the only scoop you will ever see on my 63 is the Max Wedge scoop. But whatever one does to their own Mopar is their bussiness. Ron
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 08:18 PM
liked it on my Coronet undecided on my dart
Posted By: 70blackfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 08:30 PM
I will take a cowl hood over a shaker any day.
Posted By: BDS871Cuda
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 08:33 PM
On a Mopar ,It all looks good!
This was on mine but now is off
for the 8-71.
It's forsale if any one wants to
make an offer.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 08:36 PM
Looked great on my Valiant. To ME anyway.
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:15 PM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:17 PM
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Looked great on my Valiant. To ME anyway.
who makes the hood
how tall
how much dos it go for
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:27 PM
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:38 PM
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Now that is a nice looking ride. Hard to imagine that a factory scoop would make that car look any better.
Monte
Posted By: dartman366
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 09:46 PM
look's good on that valiant.
Posted By: Leon441
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 10:51 PM
There was a late model camaro sporting a small block Mopar that continueously hurt the efforts of the yellow Barracuda. Bruce killed the class the first year then he and the camaro that I say again was sporting a small block Mopar not a chevy. Chris Fairchild has that SB engine now with a different head. The class folded up and the engine is on it's third owner Chris now.
I agree with Fred shape of the rear part of Cowl has something to do with performance. I need to seal mine off and redirect air from grill area. It's just a lot of work considering I am busy putting engine and tranny back together for Columbus.
Posted By: headhunter
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 11:37 PM
i believe jr sold that car
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/03/07 11:51 PM
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Lane Lambert has done the same thing on his N/A Dart and has seen positve results.
Steve
any pics ?
Posted By: colt340
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 12:09 AM
Cowlhood all the way. On my car anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 01:55 AM
Didnt hurt my 60ft anyway...
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Posted By: biff426
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 02:04 AM
Had to so it would fit the rules I think it looks good
Posted By: 340RICK
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 02:18 AM
I like
Posted By: 72chrgrally
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 05:58 AM
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Lane Lambert has done the same thing on his N/A Dart and has seen positve results.
Steve
any pics ?
My camera decided not to take pictures that day, and I generally only see the car once a season. The car is beautiful, and very well built.
Steve
Edit: here's a pic of the car from a few weekends ago at the CSCN.
Posted By: jyrki
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 07:26 AM
It's some seven years ago when I converted in the '66 GT Dart. To my surprise, the cowl induction blocked the visibility way more than the six pack it replaced. It's wide, and long, and equal height everywhere, my seats were installed pretty low in the car, and I couldn't see a whole lot out of there. As far as the looks go, at first I thought they were cool because you saw so few of them. Now, that they are everywhere, I don't like the looks a lot. Even though I have one in our car. Maybe it's time to convert to the good ol' L88 scoop?
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 01:03 PM
Why not on a Mopar?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 02:04 PM
I did it JUST to piss off the Mopar purists..
Really, I originally put it on for the Pump Gas Drags.. No forward facing scoops.
Posted By: 440cistroker
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 05:01 PM
They all look good to me! Some nice Mopars in this thread!
It's just your typical Mopar or No Car guys wanting to be heard!
Posted By: Garceau
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 05:42 PM
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the original design of the cowl hood scoop was to direct cool air by picking it up from deflecting it off the windshield
And it does function fairly well. There is a high pressure area at the base of the windshield.
And to those that posted they went slower, have you given any consideration that the difference in air (be it less or more with the cowl hood) affected your a/f ratio at certain speeds?
Just a though.....
Cowl hoods DO FLOW AIR into the engine.
I dont like the looks either.
but if you study the various configurations and placement you will see that many are too far from the glass to catch the air and let the scoop do it's job.
FINALLY - many cowl scoops are not set up correctly. I know mine isnt, I bought it like that, even though mine is an adaption of the original cowl type on the Daytonas its still not close enough to the windshield to function properly.
Also a cowl scoop is more consistent, and easier to see around.
Many scoops on many race cars do very little, they catch very little air and do nothing more than give hood clearance.
They say if you take a string from the front of your hood to your windshield, if your scoop isnt above it, its benefits are very slim.
Posted By: ram87
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 09:13 PM
I don't think it's a Chevy if it was made by MOPAR. Mine was made by Mopar for a Mopar so it can't be Chevy.
Posted By: Leon441
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 09:33 PM
I thought that is what was wrong with my cowl. Too close to the windsheild. My carb starves for air after the 1000ft.
Posted By: Garceau
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 09:59 PM
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I thought that is what was wrong with my cowl. Too close to the windsheild. My carb starves for air after the 1000ft.
Most are too far away from the windshield, there is a formula out there somewhere.
But I heard it has to be pretty tight to the windshield to be of effective use....
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: 10secGTX
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 10:06 PM
I think if done correctly the cowl hood flows with the car no matter what make or model.. for example the Blue Super Bee with the black cowl...GOOD
The green Valiant with the 14" Cowl....BAD
my
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 10:35 PM
why not seal the carb to an under the bumper scoop and use the cowl to let hot engine compartment air out.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 10:42 PM
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why not seal the carb to an under the bumper scoop and use the cowl to let hot engine compartment air out.
thats what this guy did
cool air from the front of the grill into an airbox and sealed to the carb
the back of the hood scoop is open and not sealed or close to the windsheild
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/04/07 10:47 PM
im not sure but
the pro stock trucks ..... small blocks in them
where they from the front grill, have a airpan sealed going to the carbs ?
Posted By: mopar_to_ya
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? *DELETED* - 09/05/07 02:33 AM
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Posted By: J_GAMALA
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/05/07 04:56 AM
were it all started
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/06/07 11:04 PM
anyone do a sixpack hood to cowl hood test ?
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/06/07 11:08 PM
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im not sure but
the pro stock trucks ..... small blocks in them
where they from the front grill, have a airpan sealed going to the carbs ?
Yep, the scoop was just for clearance.
Posted By: Rawone
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 12:09 AM
I like mine...
I almost put an aero on er, but thought the cowl looked a lil more sleek.
Posted By: 70dusterjohn
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 12:11 AM
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anyone do a sixpack hood to cowl hood test ?
Yeah I went from the six pack hood to a 6in cowl! The car ran alittle faster mph with the cowl.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:25 AM
I really like the looks of this car.......Is it running in any headsup stuff? If so, what's it run and what's it got for motorvation?
Posted By: jyrki
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 05:51 AM
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anyone do a sixpack hood to cowl hood test ?
I did, and lost perofrmance considerably with the cowl hood. I put the six pack back, and the performance was restored. This wasn't a one race deal, but I run several races with the cowl induction, and since the car didn't run as well as it should have, I removed the cowl induction scoop and laminated the sic pack scoop back. however, all I can say is, that it didn't work well in that particular car, the way it was excuted. It mey very well work in some others, but you really donät know unless you compare it to something else. I did, and the conclusion was evident.
Posted By: silverfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 12:42 PM
I did it because of clearance issues also. And I figured if we do start doing well at the races we plan on racing next year being the only Mopar that shows up they might rule out our forward hemi scoop we had on it. Plus a nitrous backfire demolished our hemi scoop!
Posted By: BLACKLINELAYER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 02:48 PM
Posted By: silverfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 03:53 PM
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ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT A CHEVY SCOOP ON A MOPAR IS
Wow, thats mature!
Posted By: BLACKLINELAYER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:15 PM
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ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT A CHEVY SCOOP ON A MOPAR IS
Wow, thats mature!
GOOD COMEBACK 
THAT SCOOP MAKES YOUR CUDA LOOK LIKE A CUMARROW
Posted By: blowndart
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:16 PM
I put one on mine for hood clearance. I don't need air from a scoop or cowl though because my air goes through a turbo before it enters the carb. The cowl added some aerodynamics to my brick to help direct the air over the top IMO.
Posted By: Kam*Kuda
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:24 PM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:32 PM
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ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT A CHEVY SCOOP ON A MOPAR IS
Wow, thats mature!
GOOD COMBACK THAT SCOOP MAKES YOUR CUDA LOOK LIKE A CUMARROW
you think like that !!!!
you put a cowl hood on a duster or cuda and there novas and camaros too you
but on a car thats faster like 9.00s to 8.00s
over 150 mph you would want a cowl hood
BILL MAY
said it ,cowl hood has a mph in it
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:35 PM
If you don't like people putting cowl hoods on mopars, buy all the mopars and do what you want with them... otherwise get over it! I think theres some ugly mopars out there, done whatever way... but I could care less, they aren't mine!
Posted By: silverfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:50 PM
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ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT A CHEVY SCOOP ON A MOPAR IS
Wow, thats mature!
GOOD COMBACK THAT SCOOP MAKES YOUR CUDA LOOK LIKE A CUMARROW
I'm not going to get into a 2nd grade "COMEBACK" argument with you so I'll say this and I'm done with it..........I did it for hood clearance, aerodynamics, and possible rule implications. When you start outrunning chevys and fords with a lone Mopar they start trying to figure out ways to ban you and a forward facing scoop is something for them to gripe about. My family owns a Dodge dealership and we own about 10 antique and classic Mopar muscle cars and trucks. You don't get any more Mopar than me trust me.
Scott Robbins
Idabel, OK
580-286-6551
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 04:55 PM
What is the reasoning behind a no-forward-facing-scoop rule?
Posted By: silverfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 05:07 PM
I think they put that rule in a lot of heads up classes to keep the cars looking more stock appearing. They are afraid people will show up with a pro stock type scoop or something like that and the car will look like a race car instead of a street car. The scoop I had on my car was just a standard super stock hemi scoop like what came out on the factory race hemi baracudas. I wouldn't have changed it if a nitrous backfire didn't blow it off my hood! I went with a cowl because I wanted to be able to run an air cleaner where I couldn't with the clearance of the other scoop. Also because I know that when I start winning some races they will whine about my scoop and make me change it cause its forward facing.
Posted By: BloFish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 10:35 PM
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I think they put that rule in a lot of heads up classes to keep the cars looking more stock appearing. They are afraid people will show up with a pro stock type scoop or something like that and the car will look like a race car instead of a street car. The scoop I had on my car was just a standard super stock hemi scoop like what came out on the factory race hemi baracudas. I wouldn't have changed it if a nitrous backfire didn't blow it off my hood! I went with a cowl because I wanted to be able to run an air cleaner where I couldn't with the clearance of the other scoop. Also because I know that when I start winning some races they will whine about my scoop and make me change it cause its forward facing.
Food for thought.
Posted By: BobsProFab
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/07/07 10:56 PM
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/08/07 02:01 AM
any pics of a cowl scoop on a 80/92 truck ??
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/08/07 02:32 AM
i have a 5" cowl hood on the 'cuda and LOVE it. will never change it either. my old 6 pack hood tried to fly off the car every pass, got tired of that real quick.
and like mentioned before, none of the heads up series allow forward facing scoops, whether it's factory or not.
big pro stock scoops, snorkles, even the hemi scoops look like crap in my opinion. if it aint pro mod or pro stock, don't put a big stupid looking scoop on the hood. just my opinion.
nothing like outrunning a big tired, lexan windowed, pro stock scooped car w/ my street car
i switched from a 6 pack scoop that was sealed to the carb to the cowl hood (carb not sealed) and saw NO change in performance. did that when the car was running mid 10s.
i can barely slide my hand b/t the back of my scoop and the windshield. from what i've seen, this is how they have to fit to draw any air.
every single time i've seen an A body hood test done, the cowl hood was WAY too far off the windshield to do any good.
not calling him out or anything, but Knowsnothing's test...he lost performance from his Duster b/c his cowl hood was too far away from his windshield to work properly.
i see people mention they lost power w/ a cowl hood and just about every time it's because of that issue.
CHIP
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/08/07 02:42 AM
Cowl hoods or not some REALLY nice cars posted so far but personally I'd never run one regardless of the car, I simply do not think they look good on a Mopar. .
I guess I see it like this, I enjoy classic Mopar appearances, each year and model is an art form to me and when i see a nice looking example the experience is sort of ruined when something major has been changed on the body which takes away from it's original appearance, most cowl hoods dominate the front end appearances and change the lines of the car, especially some of those extra tall and wide versions that seem to throw off the geometry of the entire car. This is only compounded by the fact that so many Chevies run the same style hood, it takes away the unique flavor of the Mopars look and makes it appear adulterated in a sort of generic or diluted kind of way, tough to explain.
Does it "piss me off" as a "purist" ? No, it just doesn't look good to me that's all. I think there are some good alternatives out there if some owners were a bit more creative, I suppose running what everyone else runs is just the easy road for most guys. I really don't see them as being some kind of "end all" scoop design or anything.
Posted By: 70blackfish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 06:30 AM
Just wanted to keep this alive.....
Posted By: chryco
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 10:08 AM
This will make anybody`s scoop look good !!!!
Posted By: 383man
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 10:57 AM
I like the vintage SS look and of course the Mopars did not use a cowl.
But it's up to the cars owner as what they like on their car. I just like the factory racer look myself. Ron
Posted By: 340_Dart
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 02:08 PM
looking good ron!
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 03:22 PM
depends on the car, and I think so classes do not allow forward scoops. Also on a Charger it's the only scoop that looks Ok.
Posted By: juicedcuda
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 04:17 PM
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Billy, just for the record, I'm the new owner of your "cousins" Cuda. The 6" cowl hood was too small so it's already off! With my tunnel ram and 2 1050 dominators the carbs were too close to the hood. Instead I'm hoping to use a Pro stock style hood scoop (ie similar to DTHEMI's). But if it doesn't work out I'm upgrading to an 8" cowl scoop from AAR Quality Fiberglass just for you
Aar doesn't offer an 8" cowl hood. Glasstek would be your best bet for quality after Aar.
Posted By: 383man
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/14/09 04:22 PM
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looking good ron!
Thanks Andy. 
Ron
Posted By: BloFish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/15/09 03:09 PM
I just couldn't bring myself to do it
Posted By: Otherlane
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/15/09 04:23 PM
I have a volare with a w8 motor and the 5 inch 6 pack scoop with plenty of room for a air cleaner but I will never but a cowl on my car. so thing just doesn't go together mopar & cowl hood.dont get me wrong I see a lot of mopar with a cowl.i think I would run a g pack backwards first.lol! I did have a cowl on my durango though that was so sweet looking.
Posted By: 67HEMI
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/15/09 05:42 PM
As soon as I get my hood and bumpers back from paint I will shoot pics of my 1 1/4 taller WO/RO scoop on my Coronet. I like cowl hoods on SOME cars but not all and thought long and hard about one on my car. I decided that I liked my factory style scoop better on my 67. But then again I just own a slow old street car
Posted By: racerx
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/15/09 09:05 PM
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I have a volare with a w8 motor and the 5 inch 6 pack scoop with plenty of room for a air cleaner but I will never but a cowl on my car. so thing just doesn't go together mopar & cowl hood.dont get me wrong I see a lot of mopar with a cowl.i think I would run a g pack backwards first.lol! I did have a cowl on my durango though that was so sweet looking.
I have one on my 95-Ram I think it flows good with the body lines on the Ram
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 12:30 AM
the question makes no sense to me.
thats like saying magnum 500 rims are are from a buick....or chevelle.
there is positive pressure in the cowl area..
forward facing scoops can create turbulance entering the carb...the velocity can be too great and disturb air flow into the carb venturi...
cowl hoods have tons of volume of pressurized air..
with out the turbulance created from a mailbox type scoope..
gmc made the most common blower back in the day....those are on mopars also....
running a cowl on a mopar is no less of a taboo than...painting it ferrari red...or covette yellow..
the least of our worries...
chepast
Posted By: 572_dup2
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 12:33 AM
Its what u like an nobody else!
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 12:42 AM
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What is the reasoning behind a no-forward-facing-scoop rule?
because you can fabricate to create mild amounts of boost (if you will) which could be a performance advantage.
cowl hood give you the volume with less chances of creating the boost (for lack of a better word)
illbeit i know of some tesing that showed similar gains from airflow/boost from cowl type setups...
you have to change carb to account for the extra air..
just like anything it gets scienced out..
but early on ..the forward facing issue drew the red flag...fwiw
cheapt
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:21 AM
i think if you do a poll on who "likes" a cowl,[or "chevy hood" as i like to call them}, you will find most of those in the "like" column will be younger guys that weren't around when we as mopar guys were getting all the ridicule. also they weren't around when it seemed EVERY camaro and chevelle JUST HAD TO HAVE A COWL HOOD. but, this is AMERICA, and it is your car.
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:31 AM
What ever floats your boat, I use a cowl hood on my 70 Cuda
This is my friends Duster.
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:36 AM
Bird catcher
Posted By: Big_Fish
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:41 AM
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Billy, just for the record, I'm the new owner of your "cousins" Cuda. The 6" cowl hood was too small so it's already off! With my tunnel ram and 2 1050 dominators the carbs were too close to the hood. Instead I'm hoping to use a Pro stock style hood scoop (ie similar to DTHEMI's). But if it doesn't work out I'm upgrading to an 8" cowl scoop from AAR Quality Fiberglass just for you
Aar doesn't offer an 8" cowl hood. Glasstek would be your best bet for quality after Aar.
Went with the forward facing, but thanX for the heads-up on AAR. Pic of hood while we fitted up with the new scoop.
Posted By: kruger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:45 AM
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I like the vintage SS look and of course the Mopars did not use a cowl. But it's up to the cars owner as what they like on their car. I just like the factory racer look myself. Ron
ooooh yeaaaaaaaa!
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 01:57 AM
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I really like the looks of this car.......Is it running in any headsup stuff? If so, what's it run and what's it got for motorvation?
N/T car, from da Bronx $$$
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 02:03 AM
Classic looks good 2
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 02:05 AM
some more
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/16/09 09:58 PM
I think if you research it..Don Carlton was testing/using cowl hoods in 1972 on dusters..
so i wouldnt call it a new fad..fwiw
\cheapst.
Posted By: gtx69
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 10:58 AM
my cowl
Posted By: proshiftcharger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 03:41 PM
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the original design of the cowl hood scoop was to direct cool air by picking it up from deflecting it off the windshield
And it does function fairly well. There is a high pressure area at the base of the windshield.
And to those that posted they went slower, have you given any consideration that the difference in air (be it less or more with the cowl hood) affected your a/f ratio at certain speeds?
Just a though.....
Cowl hoods DO FLOW AIR into the engine.
I dont like the looks either.
but if you study the various configurations and placement you will see that many are too far from the glass to catch the air and let the scoop do it's job.
Since the advent of the taller heads/intakes from Indy, Preditor & B-1 as well as class rules its clear as to why so many are using cowls but some followup questions for the cowl hood.....
1) Should you seal the cowl scoop to the carbs?
2) How close to the front windshield should the end of the cowl scoop be for maximum air? I see some real close to the windshield almost touching it and others 6 inches or more away from the windshield.
thanks,
Doug
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 05:18 PM
I don't like the cowl scoops on a Mopar. I guess they are functional, but look like they belong on a Camaro or a Shevelle. I don't even like the aero scoops on an old Mopar. I like the ones correct for the period. I don't even like the really TALL MW and early Hemi scoops on the NSS cars. I like the AFX scoop on the NSS cars. Again, period correct. They actually had those back then. Leave the aero scoops for Comp or SS/GT cars with modern bodies. Too bad they don't make a TALL T/A scoop. I think that would look good on E-body cars and probably A-body Dusters, etc.
Posted By: 1Fast340
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 06:05 PM
will probably use a cowlhood, cant realy see any other way of hiding a aircleaner on top of a dominator wish will sit very far back on a lysholm twinscrew supercharger under anything else than that, i have a sixpack scoop on my current hood but i think that will have to be changed, i realy dont like having both carb and aircleaner up in the air and vissible
Posted By: WadeMetzinger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 06:59 PM
I don't like them on many mopars but I really like them on E-Bodies but they have about the same bodies lines as 67 - 69 Camaros. It's just a personal preference. I don't think I would get anywhere near the complements I get on my car if it has a 6 pack hood on it.
Posted By: B1KILLER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/17/09 10:16 PM
Another look
Posted By: proshiftcharger
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/18/09 12:50 PM
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the original design of the cowl hood scoop was to direct cool air by picking it up from deflecting it off the windshield
And it does function fairly well. There is a high pressure area at the base of the windshield.
And to those that posted they went slower, have you given any consideration that the difference in air (be it less or more with the cowl hood) affected your a/f ratio at certain speeds?
Just a though.....
Cowl hoods DO FLOW AIR into the engine.
I dont like the looks either.
but if you study the various configurations and placement you will see that many are too far from the glass to catch the air and let the scoop do it's job.
Since the advent of the taller heads/intakes from Indy, Preditor & B-1 as well as class rules its clear as to why so many are using cowls but some followup questions for the cowl hood.....
1) Should you seal the cowl scoop to the carbs?
2) How close to the front windshield should the end of the cowl scoop be for maximum air? I see some real close to the windshield almost touching it and others 6 inches or more away from the windshield.
thanks,
Doug
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 09/18/09 02:00 PM
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Bird catcher
If I had to use a mopar hood, I would want one like on the Killer (Hemi scoop) I always liked Mike Daugherty's cuda in KOS with that hood.
Posted By: 67coronetman
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 05:00 AM
Posted By: mikeysmopars
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 05:21 AM
I say they all look like an upside down bass boat molded to the hood.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 05:54 AM
A cowl hood came stock on my mopar... mines just a
little higher
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 01:22 PM
one more for the haters...
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 03:27 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 03:42 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
not for air, it's for clearance.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 03:44 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
not for air, it's for clearance.
Dont you run a six pack? Clearance for a factory option that fits under a flat hood?
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 04:01 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
not for air, it's for clearance.
Where do you draw air from?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 04:19 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
not for air, it's for clearance.
Dont you run a six pack? Clearance for a factory option that fits under a flat hood?
not w/ stage VI heads and 1/2" Meth/H2O plates....
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 04:22 PM
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one more for the haters...
I`m not a cowl hater but just think some Mopars don`t look right and as I stated before about your scoop..........I don`t think you`re drawing in much air........
not for air, it's for clearance.
Where do you draw air from?
I guess from the cowl and from what ever runs thru the engine bay. The cowl does get some air as I can see it lift durning a pass, so much so I had add an extra pin. It's maybe 4" from the windshield.
Posted By: 1000+sbm
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 04:39 PM
My little cowl.
Posted By: mikeysmopars
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 04:50 PM
One i painted for a buddy
Posted By: 6PKRTSE
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 06:44 PM
Alot of nice looking cars here. I think they look best on the E-Bodies as mentioned above since they are similar to looks of a 1ST Gen Camaro but I just can't bring myself to put one on any of my cars. Still undecided what scoop I am going to run on my Challenger.
Posted By: mikeysmopars
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 06:48 PM
T/A Hood on a challenger is the coolest,
If you need more clearance, Cut & Raise it, I have seen the extended version of the T/A hood. Anyone here got one?
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 07:25 PM
I got the cowl hood simply because I couldnt find a forward facing scoop that I liked.. everything that would fit and provide enough clearance, looked like a beached whale sitting on the hood..
Before...
After...
No Hood...
You tell me which one looks better!!
Posted By: 1000+sbm
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:26 PM
i like the cowl on your car!
Posted By: DblOJoe
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:29 PM
The cowl looks better for sure! Six pack and Hemi scoops shouldnt be on every mopar built...
Posted By: 1000+sbm
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:39 PM
I agree
Posted By: SG duster
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:42 PM
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Six pack and Hemi scoops shouldnt be on every mopar built...
same goes for cowl scoops, some look good some dont. it realy is the preference of the owner
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:47 PM
It's all about air and air turbulence in the carb area. I have a 6pak hood/scoop and the cowl hood/scoop. I have never gotten my 6 pak set-up to make one good, clean pass.
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 08:48 PM
So I run this,,
Posted By: 67HEMI
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 10:03 PM
This is my forward facing scoop I hope to use in a month or so!
Posted By: dogdays
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 10:55 PM
If ya gotta run a '69 Camaro cowl hood, just get a '69 camaro!
Grumpy
Posted By: b1dartsport
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 11:16 PM
Here is the 4.5" twin snorkel that I got from AAR fiberglass. It is 2" taller than the stock snorkel that came on my car. I got it to use on the street because it clears the Indy intake and is about the most stock looking one that does so. I might try it on the track, but I also have a pin on light weight cowl hood for racing.
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Posted By: Duner
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 11:35 PM
Even trucks get in on the action.....
but it's not a Chebby style either.
Although that is a '69 Camaro front spoiler hiding under it.
Posted By: prochargedhemi
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 01/31/13 11:42 PM
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Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 12:24 AM
Posted By: MoparBilly
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 03:12 AM
Longest Cowl Hood in captivity!
Posted By: Gary Robbins
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 03:20 AM
Until the last few years if you ran a street legal heads-up series you couldn't run a forward facing scoop...We started out with a ssah style hood and had to change over to be legal at the time...really haven't considered going back...Now what i don't like is when they put a forward facing scoop on a cowl!!!!
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 03:58 AM
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No center rib = not a chevy! 
It started out a 9" to clear the tunnel ram and carbs. No forward facing scoops in the local pro street class.. Biggest problem I had was I couldnt see the last yellow when in the left lane.. I am 6'9" and my seat is low and way back.. LOL
how much room do you have from the carbs to scoop ?
which tunnelram are you using
Posted By: Winchester 73
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 05:47 AM
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This is my forward facing scoop I hope to use in a month or so!
you might want to think about that,according to some of these guys your car will mph faster if you turn it backwards and put it 1/2"from the windshield
1)more airflow
2)lots more compliments from passersby
3)looks good
4)evryone else is doing it
5)the club i run with says i have to
6)it used to be considered wrong but today is more accepted
all good reasons to run a cowl......OR WEAR A DRESS!
Posted By: wesw
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 06:57 AM
one of our cars
Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 02:29 PM
Looks like Mike Dukes old car.
Posted By: Ian
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 03:53 PM
i think they look good on some but not mine
Posted By: Ian
Re: Cowl Hood Scoops.. Why on a MOPAR????? - 02/01/13 04:04 PM
one more ,was going to try larger one but the police do not like them
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and the blower hat looks cool hangin out i think lol 
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