Re: Anyone use one of the "blueprint engines" crate motors?
[Re: 6T6Cuda]
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07/17/07 11:25 AM
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A few differences between this and the MOPAR 402 (406) Crate motor. The big one is the actual heads, the MOPAR SB Crate motors are now comming with the R/T Magnum Heads which flow better then the regular Magnum Heads. As you already mentioned is the Roller Cam.
The big plus I see with the Blueprint motors are the Warrenty. Mopar offers none.....
66 Dart GT, 402 11.18:109 Best
63 1/2 Galaxie 500XL 406 4Speed 13.20:103 Best
2000 Ram
2005 Durango Hemi.
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Re: Anyone use one of the "blueprint engines" crate mot
[Re: Andrewh]
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08/15/07 04:34 PM
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I was going to say.. Ther's no way they sell that dyno'd, if it comes that way. No plugs, no wires, no distributor, no water pump or fuel pump... I dont think so. They send you a dyno sheet for an egnien built with your specs. It cant be dyno tuned, then all the parts removed. (Ok, I know dyno fuel is no always pumped, nor is it hard to get ignition/carbs on and off. But a water pump? No crank pulley? Smells wrong to me. And. I wouldnt put hypers in a 4" arm engine, even with "Mopar large beam rods". (prob stock..) My opinion, they do good work, but things dont smell right. You should be able to get a buyilder to build you a better engine for a little more cash. It's no real bargain looking at the parts list. Fucntional. But nothing crazy. Really, a 360 with that cam listed should make close to 400hp. Nevermind a 408.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: Anyone use one of the "blueprint engines" crate mot
[Re: 6T6Cuda]
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08/15/07 05:08 PM
08/15/07 05:08 PM
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Some of the above list you might not need or have to get, but I just assume do it once and do it right... (although the autozone alternator failed on the trip to the nats) As far as the motor - general impressions: 1. It comes in a wooden crate (not as nice as the plastic crates the MP ones come in) 2. They used RTV on the oil pan and intake and did a somewhat sloppy job 3. They did not include the bolts needed to attach the water pump (I had to buy them as well) 4. The oil pan looks like a bunch of "patch" work on a stock pan - like no one could bend metal - only weld... - could have been done cleaner. 5. The timing marks on the balancer are on the wrong side, the small tick marks are away from the marker not close to it 6. Mine was an '86 block and the motor mount bolts were not long enough, the mounting bosses were larger on this block for some reason - just went the the hardware store and got longer ones... 7. It uses a magnum air gap manifold which uses the new (smaller) thermostat - they do not include the thermostat or the housing 8. The bypass hose fitting they give you does not work - it kinks the hose, I had to have one specially made... 9. The bolts for the intake are not long enough to hold the manifold and the throttle bracket (again back to the hardware store) 10. They did not put anything on the openenings durring shipping, no tape on carb flange, no plugs, nothing in exhust port, nothing in the distrbutor hole... it did have a bag on the top of the motor. 11. I comes with a lot of pipe plugs plugging some of the stuff you need, oil pressure sending unit, heater hoses, temp sender, etc... 12. The intake and timing chain cover were not painted (actually I like the look now that I am use to it). 13. It did NOT come with any oil filter adaptor, you need to have one for the straght or angled filter (by the way make SURE the oil filter is on before priming the motor ). 14. It came at top dead center zeroed out for you, but I still mananged to have the the dist 180 out... 15. Mine had an exhaust bolt hole helicoiled 16. They painted the exhaust flange - I had to sand it back off
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Re: Anyone use one of the "blueprint engines" crate mot
[Re: Andrewh]
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08/15/07 05:48 PM
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I gave you a complete break down of what I spent in the above post...
Is it worth it... Not sure, we will see when it is running well... - right not it is not running real well.
I have a 300 HP 360 crate in my other car, I had much less trouble dialing it in, but I am very happy with it (it was only $3000 then, now it is 4500, but it comes with the RT heads).
If I was not so pressed to get the car to the nats, I would have built my own, and it would have cost a bit more, but would be a better and a true blueprinted motor...
As far as brackets, I used what was on the car orig, which was a mess, they still do not "quite" line up... but they never did, good enough for now....
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