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Who sells VIN rivets? #423535
07/30/09 02:27 AM
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Guys, I'm doing a swap and need to transfer my VIN plate. Who the heck sells those rivets?

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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423536
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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #423537
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Give Dave a call at ECS. He will fix you up . They are not listed on his website, but he sells them.

http://www.ecsautomotive.com/

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423538
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And you have just told the entire online world you planning on committing a felony?

I would delete this post, rethink your plan and get some expert advice privately


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423539
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Guys, I'm doing a swap and need to transfer my VIN plate. Who the heck sells those rivets?

Maggot




Dave at ECS does not sell those rivets to people doing re-bodies. Just be sure and tell him....

Dan

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #423540
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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: BSB67] #423541
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There is a vendor selling those things, advertising on page 56, in the current issue of Mopar Collectors Guide.
Look it up.
Do you know how many dash pads i have changed over in the 38 years that i have owned the Cuda in my signature picture.
Probably did that 4 or 5 times in 38 years.
But i just super glued the rivet heads and what was left of the rivet shank back onto the tag.
I don't know what some people wet their pants about in selling rivets.


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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423542
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And you have just told the entire online world you planning on committing a felony?

I would delete this post, rethink your plan and get some expert advice privately







Maybe he's just "swapping" out his old dashpad, and needs to "swap" the old tag to the new pad, and do it correctly,


And if he's doing a rebody,....who cares, it's his business .....dude needs rivets, maybe they're for a kid's pedal car, or a John Deere lawn tractor?





And to answer the OP's question, contact DW at ECS for rivets,...IIRC $25 pr

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423543
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I'm replacing a damaged dashboard with one thats in far better conditon and I'd like to have the title still match the car's VIN after doing so. Cuff me.

Maggot


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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: GETX] #423544
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Give Dave a call at ECS. He will fix you up . They are not listed on his website, but he sells them.

http://www.ecsautomotive.com/




I shot Dave an email already, but he's not gotten back yet. I'm sure he's a busy guy. Thanks for the heads-up.

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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: DAYCLONA] #423545
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And you have just told the entire online world you planning on committing a felony?

I would delete this post, rethink your plan and get some expert advice privately







Maybe he's just "swapping" out his old dashpad, and needs to "swap" the old tag to the new pad, and do it correctly,


And if he's doing a rebody,....who cares, it's his business .....dude needs rivets, maybe they're for a kid's pedal car, or a John Deere lawn tractor?


And to answer the OP's question, contact DW at ECS for rivets,...IIRC $25 pr




Unless the laws have changed, that "swap" is not allowed. And the "correctly" excuse is not likely allowed becuse it has been abused, and regarding "who cares?", the next buyer ( a rebody?), the prosecuter, the judge, the jury and his wife and kids for starters. If he needs correct rivets for a john Deere tractor he is on the wrong site. Regardless my biggest concern was asking the question online that might have serious reprecussions later with other solutions possible which I suggested.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423546
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And you have just told the entire online world you planning on committing a felony?

I would delete this post, rethink your plan and get some expert advice privately




Cry me a freakin river man, sheesh. If someone wants to do a rebody, what's to stop them from just installing the entire dash frame from the donor car? Making the vin rivets available does not make this substantially easier. Or you can dremel the tag rivets off from the bottom and JB weld the tag and the tops of the rivets on. Nobody will be able to tell the difference. jcc, if someone wants to do something dishonest, not having access to vin rivets is not going to stop them. Gimme a break, nobody's going to care what this guy's doing.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #423547
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And you have just told the entire online world you planning on committing a felony?

I would delete this post, rethink your plan and get some expert advice privately




Cry me a freakin river man, sheesh. If someone wants to do a rebody, what's to stop them from just installing the entire dash frame from the donor car? Making the vin rivets available does not make this substantially easier. Or you can dremel the tag rivets off from the bottom and JB weld the tag and the tops of the rivets on. Nobody will be able to tell the difference. jcc, if someone wants to do something dishonest, not having access to vin rivets is not going to stop them. Gimme a break, nobody's going to care what this guy's doing.




OK, I'll give you a break, and by the way you missed my entire point. Now give me a break.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423548
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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: badblack68] #423549
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Some time with a file and some black paint and you have yourself some vin rivets. Kinda like saying don't sell plasma cutters and welders because you can cut the numbers out of the firewalls and trunk lips of cars and weld them back in. Thieves and crooks are gonna do what they are gonna do. Not selling VIN rivets just makes in hard for guys trying to restore their cars correctly (especially the ones that go throught the dashpad) to get it done...

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423550
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OK, I'll give you a break, and by the way you missed my entire point. Now give me a break.




No I got your point. No judge or law enforcement official is going to nail this guy because he posted something online. They've got bigger fish to fry than some guy dinking around with a vin tag on a 30+ year old car.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #423551
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And,how many people do you think have really ever had a problem after removing/transfering a vin tag?It's been done for decades.Like said above,bigger fish to fry unless you (not Daytona Turbo) are a member of the Moparts vin tag police then you need to get a life..

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: I go fast] #423552
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I've seen this argument time and time again. My question is this. How the heck are you supposed to fix/replace a cracked damaged dash pad properly, WITHOUT taking the vin tag off. I mean come on! With all the pads for sale on E-bay and through vendors, you're telling me you just put them in the car with out a tag? or what? So all the beautifully restored cars at Carlisle, the Nats, Mopars at the Park- wherever- these cars ALL have their original, perfect, dashpads? I don't think so. So in other words- our big cars shows have felons walking around all over the place. Sure am glad every Mopar I've ever owned came with a perfect dash pad-

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #423553
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OK, I'll give you a break, and by the way you missed my entire point. Now give me a break.




No I got your point. No judge or law enforcement official is going to nail this guy because he posted something online. They've got bigger fish to fry than some guy dinking around with a vin tag on a 30+ year old car.




Well now that we are on the same page, my other implied "point" was that at least the OP poster should understand the law/repreccussions and make his own informed decision as he sees the risks, whatever they are or however silly.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423554
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What he's doing is perfectly legal and most people don't read the whole section.

(1) Subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration by a person specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection (unless such person knows that the vehicle or part involved is stolen).
(2) The persons referred to in paragraph (1) of this subsection are—
(A) a motor vehicle scrap processor or a motor vehicle demolisher who complies with applicable State law with respect to such vehicle or part;
(B) a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary for the repair;
(C) a person who restores or replaces an identification number for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable State law; and
(D) a person who removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, if that person is the owner of the motor vehicle, or is authorized to remove, obliterate, tamper with or alter the decal or device by—
(i) the owner or his authorized agent;
(ii) applicable State or local law; or
(iii) regulations promulgated by the Attorney General to implement the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act.

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