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Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: BILLYJAY] #423150
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Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: BILLYJAY] #423151
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Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #423152
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Jeez it is a race car, not a show car. Spend the $$$ where it will do some good. I feel I have a desent paint job and the car runs consistane low 11's and don't have alot in just apint.




Hate to tell you but race cars ARE show cars... people
are always looking at them... so you do want it nice



I wouldn't be ashamed of the paint on my car at any track. It shines, it isn't blistering or have runs or dirt in it. Oh and by the way it may be a plane jane color combo but have had a lot of + comments on it.

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Re: Paint job for a race car? #423154
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id do the interior and under side myself. that would save a ton of money. i think for your budget you could get a nice job done...at least i think you could around here.

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board member reflections up near atlanta use to do some nice work. send him a pm and see if he still does it.

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dont laugh but there is a local Maaco paint shop that will paint the car for $700.00 and it comes out real nice. i gave the painter an extra $150.00 on the side to give me extra coats, i took off all the trim and bumpers, no real body work, came out fantastic, 8 years later it looks very good but now needs another repaint due to rocks, nicks, etc.

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Whats it cost now days for a good paint job for a race car. I want a good job, not a $500 50 foot'r.
Im hoping it will cost in the $3000-$3500 range. The car needs no body panel's replaced, no trim to tape up, no windows, no interior, no grill nothing to tape up etc. The car has Primer but its a Lacquer red oxide primer that has been on the car for 15+ years. Its actually held up pretty good. The primer is thin in some areas, and there is light surface rust. The car IMO would need completely sanded down to remove all old primer, and shot back with a Urethane type (maybe high build 2k) It is going to be a simple one color coat. I plan to put some lettering under the clear coat. Etc. It has a few dents, were a ladder fell into it and had some small bubbling in one place but has already been fixed (roughed in).
I suck at body work, and no one n the family paints... So I will include a few pic's...
If I can get this car painted for under $4k i will be a happy camper.
Now this isnt going to be a show car, although I want it too look slick. It is a racer.
I have only had the car for 6 months nad have been a busy camper. I have the engine. All new 572 Hemi with CNC ported heads, have the induction, fuel pump regulator, carbs, all engine parts, electronics, trans, converter, the rearend is all complete narrowed Dana 60 with cal tracks. MSD7AL box for ignition all hidden.
I wanted to really go with the Nostalgia look in this car. I have a Accel duel point dist, i converted to electronic which has a cable drive tach, Moroso 5" cable drive Monster tach the tattle tail recall. Hurst Lightning Rod shifter etc. The interior and cage is finished, and I have some A100 van seats. Etc.




I hate to break the news to you, but you're not going to be a happy camper. Forget that price range you quoted. I highly doubt you'll find a decent shop that will do it for that money or less, except someplace like Maaco. I did my last paint job myself, and materials alone ended up cost me $3,000. It can be done, if YOU do the job yourself. If you have access to a reasonably clean garage and a 60 gallon air compressor, its a good time to learn how to do bodywork and paint. If you have patience, a desire to learn and aren't afraid of a challenge, then I encourage you to do it. Your car is a good candidate for a beginner, because its stripped, it doesn't need major bodywork, and you're not looking for a perfect show car paint job.




that duster is beautiful for sure but 3000 for materials alone is a little on the high end not sure if you got it at dealer cost or not but I can get very high end paint for 1/2-2/3 that price unless you start talking HOK camilian paint that changes colors.


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Re: Paint job for a race car? #423160
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dont laugh but there is a local Maaco paint shop that will paint the car for $700.00 and it comes out real nice. i gave the painter an extra $150.00 on the side to give me extra coats, i took off all the trim and bumpers, no real body work, came out fantastic, 8 years later it looks very good but now needs another repaint due to rocks, nicks, etc.




Maaco is a great deal as long as you get a good spray tech....pay a visit and see what kind of work there putting out....that's where the new truck build will get painted, should be less than a grand even for base coat / clear coat...

Rickster

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dont laugh but there is a local Maaco paint shop that will paint the car for $700.00 and it comes out real nice. i gave the painter an extra $150.00 on the side to give me extra coats, i took off all the trim and bumpers, no real body work, came out fantastic, 8 years later it looks very good but now needs another repaint due to rocks, nicks, etc.




Maaco is a great deal as long as you get a good spray tech....pay a visit and see what kind of work there putting out....that's where the new truck build will get painted, should be less than a grand even for base coat / clear coat...

Rickster




i did exactly that, went to a few maacos and watched the painters finishing product, i had to drive 35 miles farther but it was well worth it.

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Re: Paint job for a race car? #423164
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Well from my experience you get what you pay for when it comes to paint and bodywork. Some guys just work cheap thats all. Folks new to the business may be willing to work for less. When it comes to paint and bodywork there is no money in repaints of old cars or race cars. IF they are in business to make money they do collision repair work. That is where the cash is at. Look around and you may find someone willing to take on that type of project but do your homework...I have painted most all of my cars over the years, the current one being an exception, you dont want to know what it would cost to duplicate


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Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: Al_Alguire] #423165
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When Kenny Youngblood did mine back in 2005 it cost me more than twice that, and this was a good guy price.
If I choose to just fix my front clip and match what Kenny already did, it will probably cost me that $3000-$3500..

But... If any of you have seen my paint up close..(before the wreck) you will probably see why it was so expensive.


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Well from my experience you get what you pay for when it comes to paint and bodywork. Some guys just work cheap thats all. Folks new to the business may be willing to work for less. When it comes to paint and bodywork there is no money in repaints of old cars or race cars. IF they are in business to make money they do collision repair work. That is where the cash is at. Look around and you may find someone willing to take on that type of project but do your homework...I have painted most all of my cars over the years, the current one being an exception, you dont want to know what it would cost to duplicate


Exactly. The more you do for labour,,,the way more you save.....

Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: RemCharger] #423167
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Whats it cost now days for a good paint job for a race car. I want a good job, not a $500 50 foot'r.
Im hoping it will cost in the $3000-$3500 range. The car needs no body panel's replaced, no trim to tape up, no windows, no interior, no grill nothing to tape up etc. The car has Primer but its a Lacquer red oxide primer that has been on the car for 15+ years. Its actually held up pretty good. The primer is thin in some areas, and there is light surface rust. The car IMO would need completely sanded down to remove all old primer, and shot back with a Urethane type (maybe high build 2k) It is going to be a simple one color coat. I plan to put some lettering under the clear coat. Etc. It has a few dents, were a ladder fell into it and had some small bubbling in one place but has already been fixed (roughed in).
I suck at body work, and no one n the family paints... So I will include a few pic's...
If I can get this car painted for under $4k i will be a happy camper.
Now this isnt going to be a show car, although I want it too look slick. It is a racer.
I have only had the car for 6 months nad have been a busy camper. I have the engine. All new 572 Hemi with CNC ported heads, have the induction, fuel pump regulator, carbs, all engine parts, electronics, trans, converter, the rearend is all complete narrowed Dana 60 with cal tracks. MSD7AL box for ignition all hidden.
I wanted to really go with the Nostalgia look in this car. I have a Accel duel point dist, i converted to electronic which has a cable drive tach, Moroso 5" cable drive Monster tach the tattle tail recall. Hurst Lightning Rod shifter etc. The interior and cage is finished, and I have some A100 van seats. Etc.




I hate to break the news to you, but you're not going to be a happy camper. Forget that price range you quoted. I highly doubt you'll find a decent shop that will do it for that money or less, except someplace like Maaco. I did my last paint job myself, and materials alone ended up cost me $3,000. It can be done, if YOU do the job yourself. If you have access to a reasonably clean garage and a 60 gallon air compressor, its a good time to learn how to do bodywork and paint. If you have patience, a desire to learn and aren't afraid of a challenge, then I encourage you to do it. Your car is a good candidate for a beginner, because its stripped, it doesn't need major bodywork, and you're not looking for a perfect show car paint job.




that duster is beautiful for sure but 3000 for materials alone is a little on the high end not sure if you got it at dealer cost or not but I can get very high end paint for 1/2-2/3 that price unless you start talking HOK camilian paint that changes colors.



It takes more than just sprayable material to do bodywork and a paint job. I spent $300.00 on sandpaper alone. Add in a DeVilbiss spray gun, a variety of Dura-Block sanding blocks, Rage plastic filler, a good DA sander, a good buffer, buffer pads, compound and finishing polish, a detail gun, rolls of masking paper, measuring cups, etc. All that stuff is necessary, and not insignificant, cost-wise. It adds up quickly.

Bob Coomer, watch this video, maybe it will motivate you to take on the job yourself.
Its a big file, give it time to load. My paint technique sucked, but the cut and buff removes all sins.

Black Paint Video




Dave I did not relize you where talking about tools also I was refering to the cost of spray materials only


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Re: Paint job for a race car? [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #423169
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It doesn't take that much time to paint the car. The key to a QUALITY paint job is in the prep work before the paint is applied and the color sanding, buffing, etc. after the paint is laid on. As others have said...you get what you paid for. "If you don't have time to do it right the first time where will you find the time to do it right the second time"?

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