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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: nomopar&sad] #42261
06/14/07 07:50 PM
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Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??



My thought is that the weight and pressure of the water pushing in on it once it filled the vault caused it to tear, and right there at the fin wouldve been the most likely spot if there wasnt enough "loose bag" to allow for that. Put your hand in a plastic bag and then shove it down in a container of water. The bag will immediately try to take the form of your hand. All it would need to cause a leak is a sharp point....like a fin on a car maybe.

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: Gusteve] #42262
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Boyd C.????

What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.

I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.



Galen is there. He is diguised as the obese cop.

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: StrokerPost] #42263
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seems that the pics and videos are from a guy over on HAMB. That, along with the buried car site and the local news, should answer a lot of the questions. There is a new video of the trial lift, showing the tear and a bit of the bottom of the bag. Any hope the bag stayed intact inside a water-filled chamber is gone. I still hope the car goes to a museum and (aside from keeping it from getting worse) is displayed as-is. The darn thing is History. I say the party and car show is still worth attending (too bad I can't make it). Sure it would have been great if the car was undamaged, but seeing that isn't the whole reason anyway. I just hope the sites with live feeds tomorrow fare better than the tomb!

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: StrokerPost] #42264
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I kinda like (NOT) the part that they have had it up and down, in and out, and a whole bunch of other BS. The idea in 1957 was to bring it up, unwrap it and see what was there. Then give it to whomever.
Now we have limited access 2 or 3 days in advance, they're jerking the thing in and out but the best part is the actual raising of the car will be done while spectators have to pay to watch it at their convention center on TV for a SMALL FEE of Course.
Then 7 hours later, for I'm assuming another SMALL FEE you can watch as the plastic is removed. Who's to say there won't be a switcheroo involved??? Especially with BOYD involved. Food for thought.
Why wait 7 hours to unwrap it???
Why not just do it right there on the courthhouse lawn as was originally intended??? Becuase there is too much money to be made, by Boyd and the CITY OF TULSA. What a CROCK. SHAME SHAME ON THE CITY OF TULSA!!!
This could have been done a lot of different ways and still added money to there coffers, but it might have taken some effort. SHAME, SHAME, No 1957 American values there. JUST money grubbing city officials that don't have a clue. I'll bet most of them weren't even born in 1957


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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: RodStRace] #42265
06/14/07 08:28 PM
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I just got back from a drive downtown...took my daughter and she is now bouncing off the walls. There are plenty of '57 Plymouths to keep everyone happy. We counted 4, among which were a Plaza 2door sedan from MO, a Belvedere 4-door hardtop from CA, a Plaza 4-door sedan and a Belvedere coupe. Also, we saw a 58 Custom Royal D-500 coupe [VERY nice, from CA] , and a '56 NYer, still retaining the HEMI and factory A/C.

Let the party begin!!

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: 70challrtse] #42266
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Boyd C.????

What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.

I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.



Galen is there. He is diguised as the obese cop.





And they figured out that the oil slick on the water was chicken grease!!!!!

(sorry guys, couldnt help it!!!)


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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: TJP] #42267
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I kinda like (NOT) the part that they have had it up and down, in and out, and a whole bunch of other BS. The idea in 1957 was to bring it up, unwrap it and see what was there. Then give it to whomever.
Now we have limited access 2 or 3 days in advance, they're jerking the thing in and out but the best part is the actual raising of the car will be done while spectators have to pay to watch it at their convention center on TV for a SMALL FEE of Course.
Then 7 hours later, for I'm assuming another SMALL FEE you can watch as the plastic is removed. Who's to say there won't be a switcheroo involved??? Especially with BOYD involved. Food for thought.
Why wait 7 hours to unwrap it???
Why not just do it right there on the courthhouse lawn as was originally intended??? Becuase there is too much money to be made, by Boyd and the CITY OF TULSA. What a CROCK. SHAME SHAME ON THE CITY OF TULSA!!!
This could have been done a lot of different ways and still added money to there coffers, but it might have taken some effort. SHAME, SHAME, No 1957 American values there. JUST money grubbing city officials that don't have a clue. I'll bet most of them weren't even born in 1957


Tim




Sheez! Relax. The 15th was always the unveiling day. They needed to first figure out what they're dealing with. If you don't like all that's going on these few days, just ignore it all until the unveiling.

Either the taxpayers would have to pay for this, or the spectators can pay. It's better if the spectators pay.


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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: 69 Road Runner] #42268
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Sheez! Relax.




I'm relaxed and glad I'm not wasting my time and money on this BS. This was just my take on this whole situation. No offense meant.

Tim

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: TJP] #42269
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This has been on my Mopar Radar for a few years. Maybe 10. This is very poorly executed and as far as I am concerned... horrible for what it should have been. This very brainless woman or whoever is in charge just blew it bigtime... kinda sad... Bring it up, take off the plastic, and let us look...

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: Wagonmaster] #42270
06/14/07 08:57 PM
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I just got back from a drive downtown...took my daughter and she is now bouncing off the walls. There are plenty of '57 Plymouths to keep everyone happy. We counted 4, among which were a Plaza 2door sedan from MO, a Belvedere 4-door hardtop from CA, a Plaza 4-door sedan and a Belvedere coupe. Also, we saw a 58 Custom Royal D-500 coupe [VERY nice, from CA] , and a '56 NYer, still retaining the HEMI and factory A/C.

Let the party begin!!




I agree. I think the party is going to be great!

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: 73cudaproject] #42271
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You all must be a real bear day or two before christmas ..

We can wait , its only been 50 years
whats another 24 hours ?

Please everyone, check your blood pressure !
No strokes over this


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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- #42272
06/14/07 09:11 PM
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Wow...I wish I'd made that last post..."413."

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: da50r] #42273
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This has been on my Mopar Radar for a few years. Maybe 10. This is very poorly executed and as far as I am concerned... horrible for what it should have been. This very brainless woman or whoever is in charge just blew it bigtime... kinda sad... Bring it up, take off the plastic, and let us look...




I agree with this too...

This is tomorrows schedule:
Notice they say "unearthing" well that has already happened:

Unearthing of Belvedere and Time Capsule
Friday, June 15, 2007 12:00noon
Tulsa County Courthouse. Limited public viewing available

Simulcast of Unearthing
Friday, June 15, 2007 12:00noon
Maxwell Convention Center, Exhibit Hall A. Closed Circuit Television


Next they say "Unveiling", I guess since I did not get involved I should keep quite but I say if "they" hide the car between the unearthing, take the plastic off, wash it, etc. it will be absolutely terrible...

Unveiling of Belvedere and Opening of Capsule
Friday, June 15, 2007 6:30pm
Maxwell Convention Center Arena. Doors open at 5:30pm
General Admission Tickets $5, $10 and $25 purchased through Carson Attractions
584-2000 or http://www.carsonattractions.com

I hope "they" have enough sense to take the plastic off in public; however the way this has unfolded I am afraid they might try to clean her up...

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: Wagonmaster] #42274
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Wow...I wish I'd made that last post..."413."




hurry up, 426 is coming !


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Here's a video of the "test" lift for those that are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9UxL9jqe_s

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: bigdad] #42276
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No clean up [other than it getting rained on ] will occur, according to the promoter(s). Just as unearthed is how it is supposed to be shown at the noon presentation. Supposedly, at the unveiling, as well.

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: bigdad] #42277
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I agree with digging it up, unwrapping it and letting the chips lay where they may. If you need a test run to pull it out, do it that day for all to see. This is a history time capsule, no need to hide it.

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: 73cudaproject] #42278
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Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?

Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- [Re: mopowergtx] #42279
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Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?





do tell...

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Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?



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