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Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15
Posted By: Anonymous
Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/06/07 02:35 AM
Alrighty. Who's going to be our Johnny-on-the-spot? Video is essential.
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/06/05/time_capsule_with_19.html
Posted By: NAS Backyard
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 02:40 AM
I'm scheduled to leave next Tuesday but my transmission is in the back of my pick-up .
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/06/07 03:02 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 03:07 AM
I emailed CNN and FoxNews to make sure they get video from their local affiliates.
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 03:21 AM
Ten days to the waterlogged coffin. I predict an underwhelming result for all the hoopla.
I do hope I'm wrong and it comes out looking something like a 57 Plymouth should.
Posted By: Charger_440
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 02:21 PM
pete, i have press passes to be the official photographer for moparts.com, and will be there for even the (not public) actual unearthing of the car, and will get you guys plenty of pics, and am going to try for video. they are a bit picky about video equip, but ive been talking to the coordinator, and i think i will be able to swing video as well.
Brandon
Posted By: minivan
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 03:36 PM
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I wish I could be there when they pull that Belv out of the ground, and see firsthand what condition it's in.
I want to thinks it will be like any Indy or Nascar race I have been to.. ALOT better on TV...
Posted By: quickd100
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 05:27 PM
I really hope it's in decent shape. From the website, I think they did the best they could to preserve it. Dave
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 10:57 PM
I have to say, my interest is piqued as well since I first saw a thread on this here on Moparts last year.
As for condition, I'm gonna say the car will up to the bottom of the doors in ground water,, the trunk pan will be shot not only from ground water, but the full gas can that was put in the trunk.( Hopefully I'm wrong on all accounts)
Either way, it'll be cool to see the pics, cant wait
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/06/07 11:14 PM
I'm having this weird feeling, like Heraldo and Al Capones vault. What if it's buried in the wrong spot or that the tomb flooded out?
It sure will be interesting, whichever way it turns out. I have faith in cosmolene
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/07/07 12:16 AM
I will start the bidding.
$2500.00 sight unseen.
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/07/07 12:40 AM
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I will start the bidding.
$2500.00 sight unseen.
It'll be interesting to see just what happens to the car. According to the website, back in '57 the whole town supoosedly guessed what the population of Tulsa would be in 2007. The guesses are on microfilm stashed in the car. Whatever resident comes closest is going to get the car and all it's contents. Now '57 was waaaaaaaay back, so if the person is deceased, thier heir is supposed to get it. Again, It will be really interesting 
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/07/07 01:35 AM
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pete, i have press passes to be the official photographer for moparts.com, and will be there for even the (not public) actual unearthing of the car, and will get you guys plenty of pics, and am going to try for video. they are a bit picky about video equip, but ive been talking to the coordinator, and i think i will be able to swing video as well.
Brandon
Excellent! I look forward to the event.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/07/07 01:37 AM
Quote:
Quote:
I will start the bidding.
$2500.00 sight unseen.
It'll be interesting to see just what happens to the car. According to the website, back in '57 the whole town supoosedly guessed what the population of Tulsa would be in 2007. The guesses are on microfilm stashed in the car. Whatever resident comes closest is going to get the car and all it's contents. Now '57 was waaaaaaaay back, so if the person is deceased, thier heir is supposed to get it. Again, It will be really interesting
Oh, it will be interesting all right.... If the CAR has been filled with water for 50 years as some suggest the microfilm hopefully better have survived. 
I bet the car has rust, but I don't think it will be a "tomb full of water".
Dibs on the beer!
(I say Eddie gets to run the gas!!)
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/07/07 01:55 AM
I think it will be pretty cool. Hopefully the vault has not cracked from earth shift or anything else. It would be amazing to see the car come out unscathed, but I think the reality is it will have suffered some damage from water penetration.
Posted By: 340wedge
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/07/07 02:57 AM
How long before it ends up on Barret-Jackson
....
Posted By: BloFish
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/07/07 06:34 AM
Is Geraldo Rivera going to be the host?
Posted By: That AMC Guy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/07/07 07:50 AM
Does the technology to read this microfilm still exist?? heheheh
Posted By: Seank
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/07/07 01:17 PM
Better Website, actually the main one:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/buriedcarunearthed/default.aspxThere was an excellent write up of the vehicle it in the Auto Restorer.
The winner of the car would be determined and notified of it in 50 years if they were the closest to guess what Tulsas population was going to be. There was some "guess the population raffle in 50yrs" deal.
Someone is going to be happy or their estate will be.
BTW from what I have read there is a lot of interest in this car from auto muesums, especially the chrysler museum. Its a one of a kind piece which means lots of paying visitors.
Another week and counting.
Seank
Austin TX
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/07/07 01:28 PM
The Auto Restorer article said the microfiche was put in a steel tube. The tube was welded shut. Hopefully it didnt rust through.
Posted By: cuda72
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/07/07 11:00 PM
I wish I could attend this event. My 50th B-day is the day before (Flag day)
-Mark
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/08/07 03:42 AM
Posted By: gregh
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/09/07 03:36 AM
this ,akes me fgeel so much older. I heard about this on moparts probably a decade ago and thought it was so far away that who cared. Noiw it is coming out. Time moves so fast especially as you get older(seemed like I was in 9th grade forever) but last 10 years has flown by(seems more like a summer vacation than 10 years)
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/09/07 07:08 PM
Wasn't Speed Channel going to air it live?! I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
Posted By: calimoparguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:06 AM
does anyone know of any tv network that is going to cover the event??
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:21 AM
Be pretty freaky if they open it up and the car is gone.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:22 AM
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does anyone know of any tv network that is going to cover the event??
I'm betting even CNN!!!!!!
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:42 AM
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Be pretty freaky if they open it up and the car is gone.
Be pretty freaky if they open it and it IS rotted, by the look of the video it just might still be pristine. Anyone else heard they are going to drop a Dodge Truck in the same hole for another 50 years?
Posted By: bbeep71
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:46 AM
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Be pretty freaky if they open it up and the car is gone.
Especially if the event is covered by Geraldo Rivera.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 02:46 AM
The Tulsa local channels will have representatives present. Videotapes.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 05:53 AM
From the site SeanK posted:
"Unearthing the Belvedere
When: noon, June 15, 2007
Where: Denver Avenue and Seventh Street in Tulsa
What: The 1957 Plymouth Belvedere will be brought up from the ground. It will then be loaded onto a trailer and transported into the Tulsa Convention Center arena. Limited viewing is available at the unearthing and is reserved for sponsors, dignitaries and alumna of the 1957 event. The Unearthing will be simulcast to Exhibit Hall A of the Tulsa Convention Center, 100 Civic Center on Seventh Street between Houston and Denver avenues, where admission will be free".
Dang, so no 'live as it happened pictures' (from members)I guess?
Still not sure if I'm going.
Posted By: dirt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 01:49 PM
so there is no station carrying it live? that i can watch in colorado?
Posted By: Charger_440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/10/07 03:29 PM
no live shots of the unearthing, b/c its going to be pretty unceremonious...but tulsa's local chnl 6 is broadcasting it live, and all other live broadcasts are embargo'd during the time of the unveiling, b/c they have exclusive rights. so it may be broadcast later, but not live other than our local chnl 6.
i should have video though, unless the unforseeable happens.
brandon
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 03:35 PM
IM DRIVING MY 60 PLY SAVOY SL6 FROM GA TO SEE THIS CAR AND THE BIG TA-DO,BEN WAITING 7 YRS FOR THIS,TULSA DOESNT KNOW HOW BIG ITS GOING TO BE
,PEOPLE AND CARS ARE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO BE THERE,SEE PIC FOR MY JUNKER
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 07:22 PM
Has anyone gone thru and read the articles from '57 when the car was buried? This one in particular struck me funny;
linky "
A 1957 automobile was buried in the courthouse lawn today - with a bottle of tranquilizer pills in the glove compartment.......
......The tranquilizer pills got into the act when the committee decided to make the auto typical by stocking the glove compartment with the contents of a woman's handbag."
What the heck was going on in '57 that required tranquilizers to be carried?
Interesting stuff.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 07:54 PM
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Has anyone gone thru and read the articles from '57 when the car was buried? This one in particular struck me funny; linky
"A 1957 automobile was buried in the courthouse lawn today - with a bottle of tranquilizer pills in the glove compartment.......
......The tranquilizer pills got into the act when the committee decided to make the auto typical by stocking the glove compartment with the contents of a woman's handbag."
What the heck was going on in '57 that required tranquilizers to be carried?
Interesting stuff.
Husbands and kids?
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 11:14 PM
I'm thinking the only things that are going to survive are the glass and maybe the tires.
With as much rain as has fallen on Tulsa in the past 50 years, I can't imagine anything being able to hold back that much water.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/10/07 11:14 PM
Can't wait till they dig that stinkin thing up, tired of hearing about it...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/11/07 01:35 AM
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Has anyone gone thru and read the articles from '57 when the car was buried? This one in particular struck me funny; linky
"A 1957 automobile was buried in the courthouse lawn today - with a bottle of tranquilizer pills in the glove compartment.......
......The tranquilizer pills got into the act when the committee decided to make the auto typical by stocking the glove compartment with the contents of a woman's handbag."
What the heck was going on in '57 that required tranquilizers to be carried?
Interesting stuff.
Mothers little helper....
Scott
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/11/07 02:35 PM
i got my package from tulsa,100 cars in the convention center where the ply is going to be unveiled at 6;30 friday,im one of 300 cars on the outside for the open carshow,fin cars
have their own spot and golden fin cars?have their spot,then the plymouth club,and of course the chevys,for 20 bucks i got a parking spot up close
Posted By: Ebbsspeed
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/11/07 05:53 PM
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The Auto Restorer article said the microfiche was put in a steel tube. The tube was welded shut. Hopefully it didnt rust through.
More likely than rust through would be that the heat from welding melted the microfilm, and we'll never know who guessed closest.......
Posted By: Ebbsspeed
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/11/07 05:55 PM
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What the heck was going on in '57 that required tranquilizers to be carried?
Interesting stuff.
Worried about those darned Communists I suppose.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/11/07 09:17 PM
Can't wait til Friday. This baloney will end.
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/12/07 12:45 AM
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 02:03 AM
To all parking at my place, PM for directions. It is easy to get to, room for several trucks/trailers.
Parking link
Posted By: 1970GTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/12/07 12:03 PM
It looks like the car might be in good condition.
linky Quote:
Curious about the condition of the vault, a crew dug down to expose a corner last weekend, just to see.
"What was so exciting Saturday was to see this,” said Davis. “There are no cracks anywhere."
So she anticipates the car inside could be in wonderful shape.
Posted By: PAINT IT BLACK
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 01:14 PM
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I wish I could attend this event. My 50th B-day is the day before (Flag day)
-Mark
Mine too! Happy b-day.
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 02:17 PM
DENNISH,ARE YOU A CHEVY DUMMY?
SOUNDS LIKE IT,QUESS YOUR 57 AINT RUNNING
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 04:30 PM
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DENNISH,ARE YOU A CHEVY DUMMY? SOUNDS LIKE IT,QUESS YOUR 57 AINT RUNNING
Yup. Gives me extra time to polish the fins.
Posted By: Nobody
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 08:24 PM
Tick-tick
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:33 PM
1
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:36 PM
well, the concrete is still there ?
You know, no No2 was there so ..rust needs that to form ?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:40 PM
big dad you gotta keep those pics coming, i'll be there friday afternoon.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:48 PM
All there is right now ...
But, if any developements pop out ..
I'll let you know
Now, back to your regular broadcast
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:53 PM
I can't stand it. The anticipation...
Posted By: dirt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:54 PM
good picture! thanks and keep them coming, i cant make it out i gotta be in colorado this week.going to try to watch it live on the tulsa 6 TV's web site .
Posted By: dirt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 09:57 PM
here is what i hope it dosent look like!
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 10:02 PM
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here is what i hope it dosent look like!
Please, NO. I'm fearful now.
Posted By: dirt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 10:09 PM
just out of curiousity what do you think it will look like?
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 10:10 PM
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just out of curiousity what do you think it will look like?
Don't care. Can't wait till Saturday.
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 10:36 PM
OH KNOW I HOPE IT WON'T LOOK THAT BAD MY HONEY WILL BE DEVASTED
I'M TYPING HE IS WORKING ON THE SAVOY ALMOST READY TO GO I'M GETTING EXCITED NOW
I DON'T CARE HOW IT LOOKS WANNA SEE ALL THE FINS ABOVE THE GROUND
MY SIS & BROTHER IN LAW ARE DRIVING OUT WITH US & ARE 2 TACO BELL DOGS
CAN'T WAIT FUN TO BE HAD BY ALL.
ARE MOTEL IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 11:02 PM
Remember the Time Magazine headline on Global Warming? "Be afraid, very afraid". Well, be afraid. Of the Press, Hype, AND ATTENDEES on Friday.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 11:02 PM
http://www.myokobojiimages.com/truck.htmlhere is a truck under water for much longer
check it out
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 11:26 PM
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9657949/detail.htmlThis is very sad but, the car looks good
No oxogen , no rust
But the Plymouth might be all but gone
5 more days
Posted By: dirt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/12/07 11:54 PM
I am going to say that i believe the car will be in pretty good shape. I dont expect them to go driving it around but i wouldnt put that out of the question . If it stayed dry it will be really nice . if it got wet it will be rusted apart
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 12:01 AM
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OH KNOW I HOPE IT WON'T LOOK THAT BAD MY HONEY WILL BE DEVASTED I'M TYPING HE IS WORKING ON THE SAVOY ALMOST READY TO GO I'M GETTING EXCITED NOW I DON'T CARE HOW IT LOOKS WANNA SEE ALL THE FINS ABOVE THE GROUND MY SIS & BROTHER IN LAW ARE DRIVING OUT WITH US & ARE 2 TACO BELL DOGS CAN'T WAIT FUN TO BE HAD BY ALL. ARE MOTEL IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 12:07 AM
All I can say is thank God for something like this to take my mind off of Paris and G-W. Maybe now I can sleep tonight.
Posted By: 4mulaS
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 12:15 AM
Quote:
Quote:
OH KNOW I HOPE IT WON'T LOOK THAT BAD MY HONEY WILL BE DEVASTED I'M TYPING HE IS WORKING ON THE SAVOY ALMOST READY TO GO I'M GETTING EXCITED NOW I DON'T CARE HOW IT LOOKS WANNA SEE ALL THE FINS ABOVE THE GROUND MY SIS & BROTHER IN LAW ARE DRIVING OUT WITH US & ARE 2 TACO BELL DOGS CAN'T WAIT FUN TO BE HAD BY ALL. ARE MOTEL IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:54 AM
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 10:04 AM
OK, O/T a little, I know, but...
I suddenly got the thought that a "Christine" type movie could be made about this event.
The original event attenders start getting killed in auto accidents and the car keeps returning to the grave site
Posted By: Tom_440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:24 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSziykwjxvw
Thanks! That's a great tease!!!Can't wait to see more
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:32 PM
FYI the lids are being removed today! The Hazmat team will then inspect and then the steel workers will be allowed to inspect the rigging. The car is basically double bagged so we should have a good idea of the condition of the bags by the end of today. The reports are the lid appears to be in very good conditon.
Posted By: cornucopia
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:38 PM
Hazmat team??? what for??
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:46 PM
fuel, oil, cosmoline, etc...
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:53 PM
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fuel, oil, cosmoline, etc...
You forgot about the beer in the trunk
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 01:55 PM
cant believe i left that out
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:08 PM
The stress of this blow-by-blow-I don't think that I can take it.
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:11 PM
Im sure the car will be just fine, Im just wondering how many of the people that have a chance to win the car are still alive?...And will be there to see it again for the second time in there lives.
..Phill
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:43 PM
So people are in a drawing to win the car back from 1957?
Loved the part of the video when they said "entombed along with the car is oil and gasoline, just in case those items arent available in the future...
Man I wish I could be there to see it
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:43 PM
This is going to be worse than when Hemi Joel found that car in the barn he was trying to get.
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:44 PM
This morning on the news they said they(event organizers) are more worried about finding the keys. Seems no one knows the location of them.
I'd look in the ignition.
Not to worry Boyd Coddington and his crew will be on hand to look over the car and try to start it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:46 PM
whoever in 1957 guessed what the population of tulsa in 2007 would be wins the car, if there still alive that is.
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:49 PM
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whoever in 1957 guessed what the population of tulsa in 2007 would be wins the car, if there still alive that is.
The winner's heir(s) would get the car.
As far as finding the keys, does anyone in Tulsa have a screwdriver?
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:50 PM
In the 1957 news article, they said a $100 trust fund was also buried.. For you bankers and math whiz's.. what would the value of that trust fund be on Friday?
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 02:51 PM
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In the 1957 news article, they said a $100 trust fund was also buried.. For you bankers and math whiz's.. what would the value of that trust fund be on Friday?
An article I read said it would be something like $300 today.
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 03:59 PM
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:03 PM
Local news in Tulsa just reported that but said maybe the bag around the car might be intact.
Everybody was worried about if the vault had leaked and most concrete guys around here said it would.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:06 PM
OMG NO! I am devastated. I've been living for this. I need sedation.
Posted By: PocketThunder
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:30 PM
Hey it looks pretty good to me!
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:43 PM
Here's a peek inside !
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:46 PM
Another pic
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:46 PM
One more
Posted By: Shakey
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:55 PM
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 04:59 PM
Gonna need new tires that is for sure.
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:00 PM
I wonder how much of that water is from the rain after they popped the lid and how much has been there for a long time.
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:01 PM
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Here's a peek inside !
Looks like they have a big green hose to pump the water out.
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:02 PM
Well, at least it's still
shaped like a car!!
Notice the dirt/rust lines/rings around the perimeter of the "tomb"? I'd say the Plym and water have been cohabitating for some time.
Posted By: MaxPower
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:04 PM
the fenders appear to have a nice shape to them but is that a collapsed roof?
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:05 PM
I wonder if those are high water lines on the walls....
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:06 PM
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the fenders appear to have a nice shape to them but is that a collapsed roof?
Thats what im seeing...
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:08 PM
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I wonder how much of that water is from the rain after they popped the lid and how much has been there for a long time.
Read the article: Quote:
Excavators found evidence that water could have been to the top of the vault at one point, said Art Couch, who is heading up the unearthing project.
I've been saying all along, ask a gravedigger what to expect
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:09 PM
Now that it's been exposed to oxygen and light, there she goes!!
BUT, was it full when the top was removed? Now, it was stored in "bags" if you will, so if the "bags" remained intact, just maybe.......
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:11 PM
Nothing to live for now.
Posted By: Shakey
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:15 PM
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Nothing to live for now.
Can I have your car?
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:17 PM
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I've been saying all along, ask a gravedigger what to expect
I like this quote...
"Officials retreated to discuss what to do next."
It's like they have built the whole event around the car without figuring on the high probability that it might be flooded.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:22 PM
Officials retreated to discuss what to do next."
It's like they have built the whole event around the car without figuring on the high probability that it might be flooded
Like how do we get it out of that hole w/o braking it into pieces?
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:24 PM
it is sitting on a steel platform so that shouldn't be that tough. They just need to determine if that is still going to be strong enough to suppor tthe weight of the car or if they need to reinforce it some. I would imagine they are more concerend with how to remove the water.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:32 PM
removing the water will be the easy part.
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:33 PM
I'd imagine that vault was pretty dank smelling when they opened it up. Shouldn't take long to pump the water out to get a better look. They already had a good start when the pics were taken.
It's the 1957 Plymouth "New Orleans" Edition.
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:33 PM
LOL winner gets a flood damaged old car.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:39 PM
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Nothing to live for now.
Can I have your car?
Yes, but not yet. Let me see if I can work through this depression. Shaky, you are now my most favorite Northern neighbor! Your outpouring of concern for the R/T really warms my heart. Maybe there IS a reason to live even after this devastating soggy car news from Tulsa. I need more sedation now. 
Posted By: PocketThunder
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:48 PM
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:54 PM
aw man that really sucks
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 05:59 PM
Quote:
aw man that really sucks
Did anyone really think that it was going to be in pristine condition...
Also, even if the bag held up, water always finds a way and take the path of least resistence.
My guess is that water got in the bag. how much is the question.
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:00 PM
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LOL winner gets a flood damaged old car.
I'd take it!!! As is too!!!
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:03 PM
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aw man that really sucks
Did anyone really think that it was going to be in pristine condition...
Also, even if the bag held up, water always finds a way and take the path of least resistence.
My guess is that water got in the bag. how much is the question.
Well, if water got up to the roof of the vault as it appears it did, it doesn't seem like the bag would reallysave it too much...
I had hoped they would have done something to seal up that vault a little better, but oh well! Live and learn 
Posted By: BB70DUSTER
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:06 PM
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:07 PM
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Quote:
LOL winner gets a flood damaged old car.
I'd take it!!! As is too!!!
What'd be cool is if the local Dodge dealer offered to trade the winner straight across for an '07 Charger. Winner gets a new car and the dealer gets good PR.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:12 PM
DCX has basically already made that offer. Any new car wanted they will trade it straight up.
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:13 PM
LOL didn't know dat.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:14 PM
You would think they would open up a spot on that bag to see whats inside... sure its not gonna fire up and drive out of there, but it might not be too bad...
Plus I would really like to know what it looks like
, I say screw Friday, everybody already knows the vault is full of water, check out the car today!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:20 PM
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You would think they would open up a spot on that bag to see whats inside... sure its not gonna fire up and drive out of there, but it might not be too bad...
Plus I would really like to know what it looks like , I say screw Friday, everybody already knows the vault is full of water, check out the car today!
Posted By: cornucopia
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:27 PM
as the resident grave digger here on the board, let me say again; I TOLD YOU SO!
looks just like an old casket except bigger!
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:31 PM
First I've heard of the car swap offer. Guess the marketing guy doesn't understand that it would be for PUBLICITY!!!
Saw mention of roof damage. I can't see that for sure in those pics, but if the vault WAS full of water at some point, and the bag held, it would float to the top....
Excitement builds...
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:33 PM
DCX wants it for the Chrysler Museum.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:51 PM
I was really hoping it'd be OK, but I'm not the least bit surprised.
Oh well.
Dave
Posted By: blackbeauty
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:53 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 06:56 PM
It all depends on the 3 layers of plastic and the rust inhibitors they used. I imagine the paint has been worn down to the sheetmetal in places from the plastic moving around.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:01 PM
Look at the color of the water, that can't be good.
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:03 PM
mud colored water?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:07 PM
.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an
ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:08 PM
Looks a bit rust colored to me.
Posted By: camdog440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:10 PM
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.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
My thoughts exactly!
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:13 PM
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.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
My thoughts exactly!
Then you really could send in Geraldo to find it.
Posted By: Chris G
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:13 PM
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.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
Yeah, but what fun would that be? They actually should have done it both ways and compared the two in 50 years.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:14 PM
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mud colored water?
Green mud? Also in some of the pics you can see gas floating on top of the water.
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:16 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070613_1__Theva21346 Quote:
Workers lifted the vault's lid Wednesday
What the heck?? I thought the unburial was Friday.. not Wednesday..
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Rain at mid-morning brought work at the site to a halt. The vault was covered with a canopy and opaque plastic attached to the chain link fence surrounding to keep spectators from looking in
Why the heck do they always do that? just to keep the public from seeing it.. If someone in the croud attempted to throw rock and such at it, I could understand.. but to prevent people from seeing it just plain STUPID..
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1. 6/13/2007 10:31:03 AM, Kevin, Tulsa
HAHAHAHAHAHA That is gonna be funny! Shoulda burried a boat!
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:20 PM
On picture DSC08681.html it looks to me like at least the outer plastic bag is broken...
Posted By: Charger_440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:26 PM
God, im sick! i have dreamed of this car for the last 10 years now, the feeling of dispair is awful! UGH!
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:28 PM
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.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
Time for all the neck ties to have a "lessons learned" meeting and try again...what should we bury this time?
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:30 PM
They want to bury a truck this fall actually for the 100th anniversary of the state or something.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:31 PM
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God, im sick! i have eaten, spelt, and dreamed of this car for the last 10 years now, the feeling of dispair is awful!
Awful it is. Me too.
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:33 PM
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Looks a bit rust colored to me.
Lots of iron in the soil to begin with.
Oklahoma = Land of red dirt
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:34 PM
Quote:
Officials retreated to discuss what to do next."
It's like they have built the whole event around the car without figuring on the high probability that it might be flooded
Like how do we get it out of that hole w/o braking it into pieces?
What a bunch of Yahoos! All that planning, money and time for such a big fiasco. Heraldo only had us waiting for a couple of weeks for that vault, these fools were waiting 50 years for that!
Lets have a poll on how many pieces it will brake into when they haul it out. We'll put the winning guesses in a 1977 Chevette and bury it in Arizona for 50 years. The car then can be dug up and the winners (survivors) that are still alive can win the car (because 50 years from now, even a chevette will be worth something).
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:38 PM
I bet it will comeout in one piece. I'm guessing that the pad it was on when they dropped it in is still under it.
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:38 PM
Quote:
.........And to think, all they would have had to do is to put it in an ABOVE GROUND concrete vault for 50 years and it would be as good as new when they opened it.
Probably part of a mid-50's Nuclear Bomb Shelter mentality - for anything to survive for 50 years if would HAVE to be buried in a vault in the ground.
(Or is that Nukuler?)
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:39 PM
i guess they didnt have cosmoline to protect stuff back then
oh wait, they did, didnt they?
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:40 PM
in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:40 PM
IIRC it was sprayed with cosmoline
Fat lot of good that's going to do with the car submerged
Posted By: Tom_440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:41 PM
Perhaps it will be rebodied by the 15th?
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:42 PM
Quote:
in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
A 1957 Plymouth Belvedere, Christine's older sister.
Posted By: 71TA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:42 PM
Well, let's face it - that vault is nothing more than an over-sized septic tank. But I have complete faith in the car "condom."
FUNNY!
Posted By: 472 R/T SE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:51 PM
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On picture DSC08681.html it looks to me like at least the outer plastic bag is broken...
This pic has the plastic coming out from under the car like it's not completely wrapping it anymore.
And the water lines on the side of the vault look rust colored or it could very well be the red dirt doing it.
The way the crane crew is planning on pulling it out has me suspecting the weight of the motor and trunk will put undo stress on the body and if it's rusty????
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:52 PM
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i guess they didnt have cosmoline to protect stuff back then
oh wait, they did, didnt they?
Ya but they should have coated the OUTSIDE of the vault. 
Posted By: Paul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:53 PM
It would have been wise to equip the floor of that vault with a drain and an anti-sewer backup check valve. At least that way when water got in, it would have had somewhere to go.
Between all the stuff they sprayed on it, all the water, and time that has passed, it's gonna look pretty sad once it's uncovered.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:56 PM
Notice you can't see the hose underwater either. There's a lot of silt in there.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 07:59 PM
With hindsight it blows me away that this whole affair occured this morning. Talking about putting a dampener on the party. What occured this morning should have taken place with ALL the media in place begining Friday morning. I doubt if I will take the day off and watch the affair on closed circuit TV from the convention center this Friday. Heck if I was flying in I might cancel my flight...
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:03 PM
Just watch it on
KOTV.comat work.
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:03 PM
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With hindsight it blows me away that this whole affair occured this morning. Talking about putting a dampener on the party. What occured this morning should have taken place with ALL the media in place begining Friday morning.
I don't know if all the digging and taking off of the lid could have been done on the same day as the "unveiling", but I agree that this lessens the fun for Friday.
It's sort of a shame that the location was so public, with all the photos getting out.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:29 PM
If anybody gets that car, I know a vender the sells POR-15 in 55 gallon drums!
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:29 PM
I was wondering about the writing on the side too. It's explained in one of the articles
HERE The 2 beauty queens signed their names in the sides of the vault.
There is also an article on how it was prepped and pics... fun stuff.
At least the bag isn't a smooth, flat lump covering the bottom 6 inches! Still hoping.....
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:29 PM
Well, besides the color of the dirt/silt in the water, dont forget I beleieve this car is on some type of steel skid or platform, which could be contributing ot the color of the water, but most likely it is the dirt/silt.
I said in an earlier post that I thought the car was up to the rockers in water, but now it sems it may have gone all the way up to the top. SIne these pix have leaked out, I'll go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out on a limb and be the sole dissenter and say the bag, and cosmoline have keep the body in okay condition. Interior will be moldy and mildewed, but again I'll go against the grain and say it will be restorable.
Keys will be in the ignition, and as for the 1957 Tulsa resident population guesses that were welded in a tube. I'll say the tube will be found in the interior and it and the contents will be intact
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:32 PM
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If anybody gets that car, I know a vender the sells POR-15 in 55 gallon drums!
Buy 4, set the car up on them, call it the World-Famous Barrelvedere.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:35 PM
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Quote:
With hindsight it blows me away that this whole affair occured this morning. Talking about putting a dampener on the party. What occured this morning should have taken place with ALL the media in place begining Friday morning.
I don't know if all the digging and taking off of the lid could have been done on the same day as the "unveiling", but I agree that this lessens the fun for Friday.
It's sort of a shame that the location was so public, with all the photos getting out.
Yup, all the money they are gonna lose out on in sponsors, hotel rooms, food vendors and other stuff.
Posted By: PocketThunder
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:36 PM
What will become of the vault itself? Will they just fill it in? Excavate it?
Turn it into the city pool?
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:36 PM
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:36 PM
Quote:
in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
Look closer, it reads Jenny 867-5309
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:38 PM
Forget the car, what's the beer like?
Posted By: CYACOP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:43 PM
Quote:
With hindsight it blows me away that this whole affair occured this morning. Talking about putting a dampener on the party. What occured this morning should have taken place with ALL the media in place begining Friday morning. I doubt if I will take the day off and watch the affair on closed circuit TV from the convention center this Friday. Heck if I was flying in I might cancel my flight...
My thinking too. I WAS going to drive up from Dallas but wont go now.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:43 PM
Quote:
Quote:
in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
Look closer, it reads Jenny 867-5309
Now THAT's funny!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:44 PM
they're going to fill it in.
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:50 PM
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call it the World-Famous Barrelvedere.
Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:51 PM
Quote:
Quote:
If anybody gets that car, I know a vender the sells POR-15 in 55 gallon drums!
Buy 4, set the car up on them, call it the World-Famous Barrelvedere.
Ouch!
Tim
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:52 PM
Well all we know is there was water inside, no one has seen the car yet without the plastic, correct? I never planned to go, but cant wait to see what it looks like pulled out of there!
Posted By: shanker
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:55 PM
I have a theory that we are going to find Jimmy Hoffa's body in the drivers seat!!!
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:58 PM
What happened to the 15th? Baloney.
MODS: Please delete this on the 16th. Enough!
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 08:58 PM
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video of them opening it up
http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/qt.html
That video actually shows the water was as deep as the top of the trunk lid when they first opened up the vault. The pictures showing lower than that were taken after some of the water was pumped out.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:04 PM
Water invadeds throught the tiniest of holes or cracks, the car might have survived if had been buried out here with adaquate drainage that drained off what little rain we get
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:12 PM
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Water invadeds throught the tiniest of holes or cracks, the car might have survived if had been buried out here with adaquate drainage that drained off what little rain we get
But that would have been a long way to drive for all the people celebrating Tulsa's 50th anniversary...
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:17 PM
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But that would have been a long way to drive for all the people celebrating Tulsa's 50th anniversary...
True, Im just saying they were stupid to think it was waterproof especially in a non-arid area
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:19 PM
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Well all we know is there was water inside, no one has seen the car yet without the plastic, correct?
Ever been the first on the scene of an accident and hesitated to look inside the wreckage for fear of what you'll see?
..........I'm getting the same feeling with this car.
Dave
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/13/07 09:36 PM
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:49 PM
Uh........I can't belive they're pumping it out onto the street. Gas? Oil? EPA? Helllllo?
This ain't gonna be pretty folks.
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 09:57 PM
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Uh........I can't belive they're pumping it out onto the street. Gas? Oil? EPA? Helllllo?
This ain't gonna be pretty folks.
I believe the HAZMAT team was present.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 10:05 PM
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Water invadeds throught the tiniest of holes or cracks, the car might have survived if had been buried out here with adaquate drainage that drained off what little rain we get
One pinhole anywhere in those 3 layers of plastic, and that car is toast. It was naive to think that the tomb would not have water in it. And, they obviously did a terrible job of sealing the lid around the edges.
The pics showing the Belv sitting in knee-deep water made me ill. They should have just parked it in the lobby of the city wall and roped off for 50 years.
Or built a room around it..(so it would keep some elusiveness) Great idea though..
And to even think that plastic held out any water (they probably just did it tarp style) that poor thing was totally submerged in water for probably 40 years.
Posted By: NANKET
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 10:49 PM
Make that 49 and one half years that it was under water.
Posted By: JeffC
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 11:13 PM
Quote:
Uh........I can't belive they're pumping it out onto the street. Gas? Oil? EPA? Helllllo?
This ain't gonna be pretty folks.
ain't got no EPA in okiehoma
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 11:24 PM
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My thinking too. I WAS going to drive up from Dallas but wont go now.
You know, this got me thinking.
This is going to be a party, here in Tulsa, regardless of the condition of the car. The car's unveiling is just the catalyst for the party. The celebration is about the centennial, not just the car.
Granted, there will be disappointed people, but, the flip side will be the car shows around town, the party for the centennial and the event - in and of itself. Should still be a good time.
I have two sofas and chairs set up in my home for those parking here, who wish to avoid the nightmare and cost [by watching the simulcast on TV] the actual unveiling will create.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 11:27 PM
Got to say though ..
Tulsa wanted publicity ...
I feel like we are grave robbers ?
Rest(rust) in peace old girl, you did your job well
Posted By: Ontos
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 11:28 PM
I think the local Hazmat team checked it out and it's just plain 'ol muddy water they're pumping....no EPA to worry about. Now IF that's the case...then maybe there's hope that the can of gas and case of motor oil in the trunk is still intact (IE: didn't leak out and contaminate the water and thusly get the EPA and Hazmat teams all excited). Also...wouldn't all the cosmoline leave a detectable residue if it's been in contact with water for 50 years?
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/13/07 11:34 PM
Posted By: cornucopia
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/13/07 11:46 PM
this whole thing is so funny...this is one of MANY disinterments that I have been a party to, and they all turn out the same...ROT!
that vault has been FULL of water to the top.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:31 AM
OK, its Vacuum sealed in 3-bags..there is a SLIM possibility the car has made it. Why? Because the event hasn't been called of...
Posted By: Mustanghater
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:33 AM
Since they have gotten that far already why dont they just take the tarps off?
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:36 AM
We're still going.
I'd still like to see the car and everything else goin' on in Tulsa.
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:37 AM
why dont they just show us moparters... we wont tell anyone
Posted By: sixpaktoogo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:51 AM
Where is the sprayed in foam that was in the video I saw of them putting the car in the vault??
Posted By: CYACOP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:53 AM
Its all a hoax. They just added the water to the hole just before the pics. The car is mint. Plublicity stunt by Chrysler.
Posted By: KillerBee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:04 AM
I watched the video.
Was that lady in charge getting ready to cry???
Give me a break
In the video it shows worker frantically putting up privacy plastic on the fence to keep anyone from seeing inside. I'm sure they're going to peek inside the car's plastic covers to see just how stupid they are going to look.
Their best bet is to yank the rotted car out of the hole and get Foose to come in and do a Overhaulin' episode ASAP
Posted By: RangerDan440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:09 AM
awww man, I was hoping for the best, but....
I think that no matter how bad off it is, it will be restored. Lets say the car was even partially submerged the majority of the time-there probably wasnt enough air to complete the oxidation, and there certainly isnt any salt to expdedite the process. Moisture alone wont rust a car to oblivion. I think it will be covered in mud and covered in surface rust but the metal will mostly be there. The interior, electrical, and drivetrain will all be a different story though, but thats all repairable. Lets not rebody the thing just yet.
I actually had a meeting scheduled on Friday 1 PM EST, but I rescheduled it to watch the unveiling
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:20 AM
Just send it to Alan he can get Kieth Sims to fix it
Posted By: SANDYinNS Canada
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:25 AM
They probably have it's twins sister just waiting.....restored to mint and ready to go. anybody have the vin of the orig car
Posted By: Von
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:27 AM
Just talked to my father in law who is doing some construction in downtown Tulsa at the Courthouse. He too said the car is toast. He said the smell of stagnant water was horrible and that they actually had to treat the area as a hazardous waste clean up site due to whatever chemicals were used on the vault.
Posted By: Von
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:29 AM
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ain't got no EPA in okiehoma
No, we have the DEQ, same thing. 
Posted By: MrNormsTA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:31 AM
Man, by reading some of the reactions, I thought we were talking about a buried hemi cuda. Just an old car that probably rotted, no different than in a junkyard or back yard. This one just happened to be in a big man made hole.
Interesting to see how bad off it will be.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:33 AM
Anybody note the japanese? backhoe being used to dig it up???? That would definitely have not been possible in 1957. Oh well!! my vote says it's a good parts car (stainless etc) the rest is toast.
less than 48 hours will tell the story
Tim
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:48 AM
As much speculation as the new challenger
Is it being aired online or tv?
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:51 AM
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Is it being aired online or tv?
Yes.
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 02:38 AM
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Is it being aired online or tv?
Yes.
Locally or nation wide? What station...time?
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 02:39 AM
Can't take much more. Oh, the anticipation of this (nothing) event.
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 02:59 AM
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Can't take much more. Oh, the anticipation of this (nothing) event.
For some reason, it's like a car wreck that you just can't look away from.
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:07 AM
it looks pretty good for 50 yrs in the tomb,at least its a car
were leaving in the morning,for a 15 hr drive,kida take a vacation once a yr
im pumped up to see this car,YAHOO OH!!!
Posted By: dbdcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:07 AM
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in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
She was the Tulsarama queen in '57.
Posted By: dbdcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:09 AM
Like to see the carfax report on this one!
Posted By: Von
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:31 AM
On the 10 oclock news in Tulsa, they interviewed some of the organizers and I got the feeling it is as bad as feared. They did make light on it and put a good spin it. We shall see!!!
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:51 AM
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Man, by reading some of the reactions, I thought we were talking about a buried hemi cuda. Just an old car that probably rotted, no different than in a junkyard or back yard. This one just happened to be in a big man made hole.
Interesting to see how bad off it will be.
Well, not all of us think that a Hemi Cuda is the ultimate MoPar. I've personally been waiting for the unearthing for 20 years. One Norwegian guy is supposed to have his '57 Fury flown to the states for this event. The only thing I wish is that the remains of the car will be treated with respect and it would be great if the WPC Museum would end up with the car. I sure hope that the car will be better than these pics indicate and that the weather in Tulsa will be nice during the festivities. It will be a great MoPar show!
Hans
PS I'd hate to see someone like Foose destroy one of Exners finest creations...
Posted By: Sasquatch4406
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:58 AM
i woulda been bottling that water they were pumping and put it on ebay!
Posted By: origcharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:21 AM
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in pic # 69 of the 95 you can see someone wrote there name in the concreat on the wall ( Valerie ). Who is this Valerie?
She was the Tulsarama queen in '57.
I wonder if Valerie or the car aged more gracefully, Valerie probably didn't get coated with cosmoline either.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:32 AM
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Is it being aired online or tv?
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Locally or nation wide? What station...time?
Posted By: OkieSwinger69
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:08 AM
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I'm thinking the only things that are going to survive are the glass and maybe the tires.
With as much rain as has fallen on Tulsa in the past 50 years, I can't imagine anything being able to hold back that much water.
I can't imagine it being able to hold back the rain from this year, let alone the last fifty. I got three inches at my house yesterday.
I'll be around there Friday. Actually had coneys downtown today and cruised by the site.
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:04 AM
Probably water from that water pipe by the tomb. In retorspect, has anyone noticed from the one section of top how poorly it was sealed, if at all? Note the water trial from the top down. All that work and basically looks like they just laid a lid on it.
Posted By: Daty Rogers
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:04 AM
Let Barry White (?) the SUPER MUSCLE CAR guy fix it, he'll have it completely backwards rstored for $1500 and 25 manhours on the meter...
-Daty
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:49 AM
6am,coffee and cruise to Tulsa,come hell or high water
were going
,she deserves us there
,if it was a 57 chevy i wouldnt walk across the street to see it
see ya there
Posted By: spank04
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:13 AM
im bringing some starting fluid
hey its a 318
with low miles
Posted By: Moparmal
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:23 AM
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:13 PM
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Is it being aired online or tv?
Yes.
Locally or nation wide? What station...time?
I think I read only the Tulsa TV stations are broadcasting it live. The rest of us will be able to watch it on www.kotv.com
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:23 PM
google it and you will get the TV stations covering it. You can watch it live if you have the bandwith. I think it's tomorrow.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:24 PM
Why didn't they ponder the thought of putting it into a steel container and weld all the seams and doors shut....
Why'd they use concrete? You could use galvanized metal and then maybe put it inside the tomb.
You think chrysler is still offering that trade for a production vehicle for this cancer eaten body?
They had the bright idea to take everyone's name and population guess and put it into a metal container and weld the container shut....I bet you that container is the only thing that will survive this situation
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:43 PM
Well, as already mentioned, they really shouldn't have buried it. Instead, seal it up above ground.
After all, time capsules are often stored in the cornerstone of a building. This would just be a REALLY big cornerstone.
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 12:53 PM
How does that saying go? Hindsight is 20/20
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:31 PM
Ya just never know, check this link someone posted earlier.
Underwater about as long.....
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9657949/detail.html#
Posted By: 79powerwagon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:40 PM
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Ya just never know, check this link someone posted earlier.
Underwater about as long.....
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9657949/detail.html#
That figures! The ONLY way to have a car survive in WI is to drop it to the bottom of the lake. 
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:44 PM
That car stayed underwater, so there wasn't much oxygen.
The 57 Plymouth's tomb looks like the water level changed and part of the car was exposed.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:46 PM
A car that's been totally underwater like that old Ford has had no oxygen to rust it
The vault car has had air in the vault - water in pushes air out, water out is replaced with air
Posted By: Russ
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 01:50 PM
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 02:10 PM
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A car that's been totally underwater like that old Ford has had no oxygen to rust it
The vault car has had air in the vault - water in pushes air out, water out is replaced with air
That's true. All those wet/dry cycles will aid in the corrosion process, unfortunately.
Plus, the real damage will occur inside the panels (at hemmings, spot weld areas, etc), where there is little or no paint film build combined with crevices which facilitate oxygen concentration cells. The stuff they sprayed on the outside of the car will have done little to protect the critical areas.
Not to mention all the damage that water and dirt/grunge will have done to the engine/transmission, interior upholstery, electrical system, etc etc.
I would like to believe otherwise, but it doesn't look like it will be pretty. It will be interesting either way, though. Rather than restore it (if it's even possible), it would be cool if they could put it in a museum as is... I'm sure it's the only one like it in the world.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:10 PM
Reguardless of it's condition I wonder if this will make the '57s as valuable as the '58s?
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:13 PM
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A car that's been totally underwater like that old Ford has had no oxygen to rust it
The vault car has had air in the vault - water in pushes air out, water out is replaced with air
Yep, the only way theres any chance at all is if the 3 layer sealed "plastic bag" somehow stayed sealed, but we ARE talking about 1957 technology. Yep, its a big pile of rotted, filthy, stinking junk.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:20 PM
didnt realize 57's werent as valuable as 58's
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:23 PM
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didnt realize 57's werent as valuable as 58's
I've seen some pretty crazy prices on '58s because of Christine. I didn't think the '57s were as valuable.
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:26 PM
In 58, you could get the one year only 350, so knuckle-dragging Chevy guys think it's something they would want, too.
Posted By: Charger_440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:48 PM
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I watched the video.
Was that lady in charge getting ready to cry??? Give me a break
In the video it shows worker frantically putting up privacy plastic on the fence to keep anyone from seeing inside. I'm sure they're going to peek inside the car's plastic covers to see just how stupid they are going to look.
Their best bet is to yank the rotted car out of the hole and get Foose to come in and do a Overhaulin' episode ASAP
that wasnt the lady in charge, it was the little girl who you see in the pics, sitting on the hood of the car before it was buried, they went to the touble of finding her and involving her in the festivities, and if you had put so much into something, just to see it turn out like that, you'd be crying too, i think.
Posted By: DennisH
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 03:53 PM
Oh the drama. Oh the trauma! This is awful. Those poor people. Total devastation I tell ya.
Posted By: Chaaargerb
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:04 PM
Win Lose or Draw I really hope they leave the car in the condition it is. I have been looking forward to seeing this car come out of the ground. I never even gave it a second thought that the case would fill with water.
. I think of all the people in 1957 who really did what they thought was right to make this car survive. I really hope this doesn't take away from the celebration or the reason it was put there in the first place.I would love to be there to see the old girl and to think of all the people this car has touched in one way or another.
Posted By: OutsideGroove
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:21 PM
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Oh the drama. Oh the trauma! This is awful. Those poor people. Total devastation I tell ya.
Ok we get it, your not interested in the hype surrounding this. Is your life so sad and boring that you have to continue to come here and make stupid comments and take digs at people? Sheesh.
Posted By: PocketThunder
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:29 PM
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Win Lose or Draw I really hope they leave the car in the condition it is.
Maybe they can put it in the Chrysler museum in a sealed glass enclosure and fill it with Nitrogen.
Posted By: anlauto
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:38 PM
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Win Lose or Draw I really hope they leave the car in the condition it is.
Maybe they can put it in the Chrysler museum in a sealed glass enclosure and fill it with Nitrogen.
That's exactly what I was thinking...how cool would that be to see 
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:39 PM
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Oh the drama. Oh the trauma! This is awful. Those poor people. Total devastation I tell ya.
Ok we get it, your not interested in the hype surrounding this. Is your life so sad and boring that you have to continue to come here and make stupid comments and take digs at people? Sheesh.
I think he wants attention...
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:43 PM
I've been searching the net and I can't seem to find any new info on it. I guess they're keeping the condition of the car pretty quite, but I'm suprised something hasn't leaked out yet.
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:43 PM
So whats the latest today? I assume they have the water pumped out. Are they waiting til tomorrow to unwrap the car? Is it just sitting there drying out or what? Why is there not a Tomb webcam or something! Come-on!!!
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:45 PM
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Win Lose or Draw I really hope they leave the car in the condition it is.
Maybe they can put it in the Chrysler museum in a sealed glass enclosure and fill it with Nitrogen.
Can you imagine the stench if not in a sealed container?
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 04:59 PM
I guess today they're preping it to be lifted out. The need to make sure that the skid under it that was used to lower it in will still be able to support it. I haven't found any info on whether or not they're planning on unwrapping it there or at the convention center.
Also, remember that the skid under it is made of steel, so there is a chance (however slight) that the rust on top of the car is from that and not the car.
Here's to hoping for the best.
Posted By: OkieSwinger69
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:07 PM
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Win Lose or Draw I really hope they leave the car in the condition it is.
Maybe they can put it in the Chrysler museum in a sealed glass enclosure and fill it with Nitrogen.
That's exactly what I was thinking...how cool would that be to see
This baby's part of Oklahoma and Tulsa history. She needs to remain right here IMHO.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:22 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:23 PM
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:24 PM
At least it's still in the shape of a car.
Posted By: That AMC Guy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:30 PM
You know, after all this, watch the car be no worse for wear than a crinkled in roof, hood and decklid!
If those bags are thick and sturdy and properly sealed, there's nothing that could have potentially ripped them. So, if even 1 of the seals held, the car should be ok!
Too bad they didn't cover the walls of the tomb with tar and make sure the top was properly sealed. I'd be willing to bet it was the lid seal that gave up.
Someone mentioned earlier that it was vacuum sealed! Is that true?? If all three layers were vacuum sealed and again, those seals held.... that baby should be A-ok!
Guess we'll find out tomorrow!
Posted By: RUMBLON
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:31 PM
OK, is this thing out or what?
Dave
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:32 PM
There was one video where some old guy who was around when it was burried said that the wrap was lying the same way it was in 1957.
Posted By: magnumcharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:33 PM
Is this the new definition of a "car pool"?
Posted By: EV2DEMON
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:34 PM
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There was one video where some old guy who was around when it was burried said that the wrap was lying the same way it was in 1957.
I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday and this guy supposedly remembers what that cover looked like 50 years ago?
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:47 PM
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There was one video where some old guy who was around when it was burried said that the wrap was lying the same way it was in 1957.
I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday and this guy supposedly remembers what that cover looked like 50 years ago?
I bet you remember how much you paid for your first Mopar though.
Total different magnitude of events.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:47 PM
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There was one video where some old guy who was around when it was burried said that the wrap was lying the same way it was in 1957.
I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday and this guy supposedly remembers what that cover looked like 50 years ago?
There are many people who remember minute details about special occurances/things.
I remember lots of details about our 1956 Olds 98.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:49 PM
The one thing I notice that makes me hold on to hope, the wrinkles in the plastic from vaccum sealing it still look tight...
Posted By: EV2DEMON
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:50 PM
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I bet you remember how much you paid for your first Mopar though.
Total different magnitude of events.
And remembering what I paid for my first Mopar is a completely different magnitude than remembering what the wrinkles on the front seat cover looked like the day I drove it home.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 05:56 PM
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I bet you remember how much you paid for your first Mopar though.
Total different magnitude of events.
And remembering what I paid for my first Mopar is a completely different magnitude than remembering what the wrinkles on the front seat cover looked like the day I drove it home.
When I got my second Coronet last year I noticed that my mind automatically puts in the imperfections in the dash that where in my orginal one, and I hadn't driven the original one in almost 10 years.
So yes I can see how trivial things could be ingrained in someones mind, especially when related to a big event that is very important to anyone who was there.
Don't forget, there is such a thing as a photographic memory and there are different magnitudes of that also.
Posted By: Nobody
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:03 PM
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There was one video where some old guy who was around when it was burried said that the wrap was lying the same way it was in 1957.
I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday and this guy supposedly remembers what that cover looked like 50 years ago?
There are many people who remember minute details about special occurances/things.
And many who believe they have remembered details.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:05 PM
Seal?? Not.
Not on the 'tomb' anyway...
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:09 PM
I don't see where the coving has been compromised in that picture. There's even standing water on it.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:18 PM
I dunno about it being vacuum sealed...
Check out this video:
Buried 57 Plymouth Here are some images captured from it:
A few observations:
- it doesn't look like the bottom part of the cover is big enough to completely cover the underside.
- the car was lowered into the tomb without a cover on it, which means that the cover is a 2-piece affair, which likely couldn't be sealed properly onsite anyways. The cover looks like it was hanging loose on the bottom.
- the cosmoline or whatever is being sprayed on the
outside of the cover... that ain't gonna do much to protect the body.
- in the last pic, the cover isn't drawn tightly over the body, which means it isn't vacuum sealed.
It looks like they were trying to protect the paint from 50 years of dust and dirt, not from sitting in a pool of water.
As a side note, check out how the skid is bowing as it's being lowered into the tomb... do ya think it'll be strong enough to lift it out after 50 years of rusting??
Posted By: That AMC Guy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:26 PM
But also, wasn't the car placed in the tomb and removed several times for publicity shots? I can't imagine them just putting the car in the hole and putting a tarp over it.
From the video, it doesn't look like they're spraying the car, but the top edge of the cement prepping for the lid.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:28 PM
Boyd Coddington to revive Plymouth!
AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants to be installed. Hmmm... I hope they have something to chemically remove rust and water from inside the engine...
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:29 PM
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But also, wasn't the car placed in the tomb and removed several times for publicity shots? I can't imagine them just putting the car in the hole and putting a tarp over it.
You are correct. They raised and lowered it several times for pictures. So you can't be sure if any of the pics, especially of it outside the tomb, actually repreent how the car was placed.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:30 PM
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But also, wasn't the car placed in the tomb and removed several times for publicity shots? I can't imagine them just putting the car in the hole and putting a tarp over it.
I hope that's the case...
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:38 PM
The mud or rust on top of the car makes me ask how the water inside the vault could have been so turbulent. If water was seeping into the vault, the sediment would all be on the bottom, or at least most of it would. For there to be an inch of mud or rust on TOP of the car, there must have been quite an inflow/outflow of water at some point.
I can't wait to see this thing. It would have been better to set the car in a warehouse with a curtain around it. But if they had done that, no one would be talking about it or interested in it. It would just be a collector car.
Posted By: 79powerwagon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:41 PM
I would bet the dirt/mud on the top of the car fell in as they uncorked the tomb.
Posted By: anlauto
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:46 PM
Can you imagine the excitement back then, when everything was changing (for the better) all the time, and when they had so many great things to look forward too...
I can hear the conversations now....Daddy, do you think in 2007 there will be 50,000 people standing around watching it come out? Will they be filming movies of it with their little hand help devices called cell phones????
Nonsense son...phones NEED WIRES
John... do you think in 2007 Chrysler will be owned by the Germans? What are you...a spy?
Bob....I bet in 2007 Japan will have the number one selling vehicle in North America....I'm not buying anything made in Asia
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:56 PM
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The one thing I notice that makes me hold on to hope, the wrinkles in the plastic from vaccum sealing it still look tight...
It looks like that cuz its wet underneath. Ever gotten soaked to the skin while wearing clothes? Remember how your clothes were all wrinkled and stickin to ya? Same thing here. I hate it, but its junk.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 06:59 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:09 PM
it looks like the car is sitting on the bag and they just unfolded the bag up around the car and sealed it, if so i believe the car is alright as long as there were no holes punched in the bag. kinda like a ziploc bag, i hope.
Posted By: CJK440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:17 PM
I wonder if the fluids were drained prior to storing it. If the engine had oil and the tranny had fluid and the axle had gear oil and water did indeeed flood the car it would have been floating on top.
EPA wouldn't have given the go ahead.
I imagine they left the fluids in.
Posted By: Von
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:20 PM
Quote:
EPA wouldn't have given the go ahead.
I imagine they left the fluids in.
EPA does not have a presence in Oklahoma. The enviromental regulatory presence in OK is the DEQ.
Secondly, if you notice in one of the pics with water in it, you can see a sheen on the water.
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:25 PM
Quote:
EPA does not have a presence in Oklahoma. The enviromental regulatory presence in OK is the DEQ.
Unless OK seceded from the union, EPA rules (whatever they may be) would apply.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:27 PM
Yesterday my spirits were dampened (HA, HA) and I was upset that "they" cut and removed the lid without the major media being present. I even posted that I might skip the taking the car out of the vault event (the unveiling is later in the evening on Friday). After going to the site this afternoon and meeting people from New Zealand, CA, AZ, etc. I decided I am going to attend as much of this event as possible.
I think this is going to be one heck of a car show. This afternoon I meet a guy named Richard Cook. Anybody heard of him? Can anybody guess his nick name in the old hot rodder type magazines??? By the magazines he showed me he has made several cool custom projects over his life. At this show he has a custom '41 car hauler truck hauling an 8 wheel drive and steer Willy's jeep he made. I met this group of people from New Zealand (one had a mopar t-shirt so I asked if they were members of Moparts) and had a very interesting conversation. Thankfully I had seen the movie "The World's Fastest Indian" so besides cars we talked about Bert Munro.
Realizing I would only be cutting off my nose in spite if I did not go due to how the early phases of the event have been handled I decided to ignore what happened yesterday. My recommendation is if you considered coming before what happened yesterday you should still come to the event!
Posted By: new bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:28 PM
I keep going back to the picture clearly showing the shape of the front fenders under the plastic cover.
They look like the right shape, contours and all.
Isn't that front corner the weakest part, rust-wise, on this era Chrysler product?
Yes, I'm an unrealistic optimist.
Still...
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:28 PM
Quote:
Secondly, if you notice in one of the pics with water in it, you can see a sheen on the water.
Could that be from the equipment they where using to open the tomb?
Until we know for sure I'm still remaining optomistic.
Posted By: 70GT318
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:29 PM
Looks like there was a tank of gas that was left outside the bag. Could be what's floating around in the water and not the fluids from the car.
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:31 PM
Quote:
I keep going back to the picture clearly showing the shape of the front fenders under the plastic cover.
They look like the right shape, contours and all.
Isn't that front corner the weakest part, rust-wise, on this era Chrysler product?
Yes, I'm an unrealistic optomist.
Still...
Yeah, it's true that this era Mope when left exposed to the elements tends to rust badly around the headlight area. But obviously the way this car may or may not be "aged" is totally unique.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:33 PM
Since the car was new when they did this, and some of the parts off the car are still good, can those parts be sold on ebay as NOS?
I can't wait for te bag to be cut!
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:37 PM
Quote:
Looks like there was a tank of gas that was left outside the bag. Could be what's floating around in the water and not the fluids from the car.
The car was buried with a can of gas and some oil in case they were not availible here in the future . If those were outside the car and its cover, they could easily be the source of the slick on the water.
Something that has not been addressed is the mud in the vault. Assuming the cover did in fact leak, if some of that clay mud seeped in and coated the car, I would think it would actually help protect it.
Remember when they raised the U.s.s. Cairo in the 60's? It was encased in mud and was well preserved... until they tried to raise it.
I dunno, just I thought, keeping my fingers crossed...
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:38 PM
Here's to hoping the old girl is okay.
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:38 PM
One thing I'm unclear about it....
Is it really a bag the car is in? or is it more like a drop cloth just covering it?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:38 PM
it would be foolish to say the least to alter this car in anyway i.e. restore it, part it etc., it should be displayed in the condition it is in no matter how bad it may or may not be.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:40 PM
Quote:
it would be foolish to say the least to alter this car in anyway i.e. restore it, part it etc., it should be displayed in the condition it is in no matter how bad it may or may not be.
Just like Lee #01?
You can bet that someone will restore it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:40 PM
the way i understand it is the car is wrapped in a bag and a vacuum pulled on it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:41 PM
apples and oranges duff
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:42 PM
Quote:
apples and oranges duff
My point is nothing is sacred and someone will restore it, you can bet on it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:44 PM
i hope your wrong, but your probably right.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:47 PM
Are ya'll familair with the term "Barking at the moon?"
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:51 PM
Quote:
One thing I'm unclear about it....
Is it really a bag the car is in? or is it more like a drop cloth just covering it?
This should answer your question.
http://www.shelbynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=93&ArticleID=47103
After reading that it gives me more hope that the car could still be in good shape.
Posted By: Ebbsspeed
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- *DELETED* - 06/14/07 07:54 PM
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Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:55 PM
No it's not, That's mud over the plastic. I see white paint underneath all that.
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:56 PM
How did that mud get ON the plastic, I say cut the bag!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:56 PM
If there was a vacuum drawn around the car and the sheeting hasn't gotten punctured, I agree. There is still hope. Maybe that would also explain the weird wrinkling on the roof??
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:57 PM
Quote:
Quote:
One thing I'm unclear about it....
Is it really a bag the car is in? or is it more like a drop cloth just covering it?
This should answer your question.
http://www.shelbynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=93&ArticleID=47103
After reading that it gives me more hope that the car could still be in good shape.
Sounds like they put more thought into it than I first imagined. Here's hoping the bag seal wasn't compromised.
Posted By: BB70DUSTER
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 07:58 PM
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It's Rusted BAD!!
See Attachment
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:01 PM
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It's Rusted BAD!!
See Attachment
I think the mahority of that [I hope} is good old Oklahoma red dirt.
Posted By: Russ
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:02 PM
Doesn't look like the back glass and windshield are caved In
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:04 PM
duffs article has just gave me new hope!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:06 PM
It's out.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:06 PM
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Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:07 PM
Quote:
It's out.
I see lots of good shape, there!!
Posted By: SKR8PN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:07 PM
What is the latest??????????
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:08 PM
Bag looks to be comprimized there.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:09 PM
If I am not mistaken that is good ol corner metal right there not baggie covered at all in that spot. looks dirty but intact underneath
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:09 PM
Judging by the rip in the visqueen, the car wasn't sealed up. My guess at this point is a rotted hunk of hulk.
Posted By: Ontos
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:10 PM
Well the bag did split open....hopefully all that red Oklahoma dirt preserved it. Not holding my breath though.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:10 PM
I'd just like to know where the pics are coming from...
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:11 PM
Yeah the bag is ripped in the corner by the fin, looks dirty but there. Nice coating of mud. Bet the interior stinks something fierce, but it didn't fall apart.
Hope Boyd is bringing some soap and water!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:18 PM
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I'd just like to know where the pics are coming from...
I found those two pics I posted on another site.
And this is from today's Tulsa World paper online:
Despite the discovery, organizers said late Wednesday that they think the car may be in reasonably good shape.
"It's not a rust bucket," said Art Couch of W.N. Couch Construction, after he and Jim Taylor of Taylor Crane examined the steel skid on which the car rests.
"We felt the sides of the car and it's solid," Couch said.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:20 PM
it doesnt look that bad, the car still sitting up good, just looks like its dirty to me.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:21 PM
Arrrgggg!
I wish they would just rip the dang plastic off that thing already!
They leak a little pic at the fin and expect us to wait unitl tomorrow!!!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:22 PM
I heard that DuWayne, Boyd's pet monkey is bringing a hand pump, jumper cables and an inflatable donut for Boyd. Boyd is bringing his eighty plus years of experience and a spray can of "That New Car Smell" with him.
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:23 PM
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:24 PM
Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the car is going to be 98% perfect, and start on the first try!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:25 PM
Quote:
"That New Car Smell"
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:26 PM
Maybe they'll find Jimmy Hoffa...
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:28 PM
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Let us Chevy Guys help you out:
http://www.tulsachevys.com/Images/buriedcar/index.html
Just what I'd expect from a Chevy guy - you're too slow
That link was posted yesterday.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:29 PM
Quote:
Maybe they'll find Jimmy Hoffa...
I'm sure he's in the trunk.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:29 PM
Future Past: Here are the top five things people in 1957 thought might be said when the buried Plymouth was exhumed in the far-distant future (2007):
1. "Mama! Look! That old car only has two fins!"
2. "Son, that old automobile has a lot of paint on it with some chrome doodads stuck on it. Nowadays, we just chrome-plate the whole [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] vehicle."
3. "Man, those fins sure are tiny compared with today's cars."
4. "Those black rubber things are called 'tires', children. In those days, vehicles had to roll along on the ground because they couldn't fly."
5. "Ya know, that old car's motor runs on a liquid fuel called gasoline. We used to have to buy it at special stores, called 'gasoline stations'. Not like today, when - if we're low on fuel - we can just pick up a new plutonium rod at the 7-11."
Through the Windshield - Blog
Posted By: 70GT318
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:29 PM
Quote:
Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??
Yeah that's what I think.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:32 PM
Are they going to clean the car up first? I definetly want to see pics of it fresh with the cover off before they do any more. I still think it will be in decent shape... those older cars sure last better than the late 60s/70s junk!
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:33 PM
Quote:
Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the car is going to be 98% perfect, and start on the first try!
This is what I was thinking, that maybe they opened it either to brace themselves and ready plan B, or possibly to see/let out any water that was trapped in the bag so as to not overload the steel skid. All in all its going to be interesting tommorrow. BTW didn't that "tear" look pretty straight and possible man-made?
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:35 PM
Wasn't the car white??? The fin looks the same dirt color as the outside of the bag.
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:36 PM
If they tore it intentionally, they also brushed mud on the paint, bumper, and tail light lense.
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:38 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??
Yeah that's what I think.
Naaa. Looky at the other pics. The tear looks to be there even when it was full of water.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:38 PM
In the now classic words of Joe Dirt:
"That s*** will buff out!"
Seriously though, they lifted the car on the original skid. Is it just me or did that thing look flimsy in 1957?
50 years of rust and the thing still held the weight of the car, I'm thinking positive. Boyd and his chimps won't be able to fire it up and drive around, but I don't think the car is pile of rot.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:38 PM
According the the promoters, the car will be exhumed and displayed as found.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:39 PM
that tear wasnt there yesterday, but there is alot of mud on the car itself.
Posted By: RestoRick
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:40 PM
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:40 PM
looky
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:41 PM
i stand corrected, good eye.
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:41 PM
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Wasn't the car white??? The fin looks the same dirt color as the outside of the bag.
Car is/was gold with a white top.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:41 PM
As I recall, the car is 2-tone [Foose would love it] copper and white.
Posted By: Gas_Bandit
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:42 PM
Need more pictores!! Even though it probably would have been in better condition leaving it uncovered, above ground, in the rain, for 50 years, this is still interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:42 PM
you gotta admit though, the car sits up nice.
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:49 PM
Quote:
4. "Those black rubber things are called 'tires', children. In those days, vehicles had to roll along on the ground because they couldn't fly."
Yeah - I still get miffed when I think that we were all promised that there'd be flying cars by now when we were growing up.
And personal jetpacks! Where's my friggen' JETPACK!??
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:50 PM
While I don't want to change the momentum of this thread too much, it seems to me, with Plymouth disappearing in 2001, the Plymouth [particularly the 57, 58 and 59] values are going to go through the roof.
If you feel this is too far off the beaten path, mods, feel free to delete this post, although I feel it is pertinent.
I also think, win, lose or draw, many [including myself and my 11 year old daughter] are going to be surprised by the condition of the Belvedere.
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:55 PM
Still pretty exciting. I can't believe how many guys on here called it before they lifted the lid. I guess back then they were really concerned about the chances of a nuclear war. Too bad it wasn't an above ground tomb. Oh well not everything I have done has gone along as planned either
I really can't wait to see what happens when to covers coe off
Dave
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 08:59 PM
Bag or no bag,50 years...
...and how many under water?
I'm not putting much faith in a 1957 era plastic bag anyway.
I hope I'm wrong,I really do.
Anybody remember the 73 RR out of the lake in MCG?
Heck it was a 50 footer, but up close...
Posted By: nomore65BelvJim
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:01 PM
it doesnt look opened in this one...
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:04 PM
I'm guessing it got torn on the fin sometime when the water level rose enough that it wanted to float.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:07 PM
Or this one:
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:09 PM
Too bad they didn't have today's tech so they could've put a camera in there with it, now that would've been cool to see.
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:10 PM
Actually I'm surprised the bag is even over the car, How good was plastics technology 50 years ago? Perhaps it's UV that rots plastic but I've seen stuff that's been in the sun for a while just crumble to dust.
Posted By: Ontos
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:13 PM
Perhaps that 50 year old plastic did start to fall apart in just the few days worth of sunlight exposure. Plastics have come a loooong way in 50 years!
Posted By: tilt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:13 PM
Hard to say.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:14 PM
Posted By: ph23vo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:14 PM
when are they gonna pull off the darn plastic!!!??? it looks pretty bad...dan
Posted By: nomore65BelvJim
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:14 PM
UV is the enemy of many plastics, the bag should have held up very well. I have had kiddie play pool (4-5' dia.) crumble in my hand after only about a year in the sun
Posted By: tilt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:14 PM
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:14 PM
Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:16 PM
Quote:
Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
Yep, wouldn't have any trouble running away from him.
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:17 PM
Quote:
Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
He'd have a hard time chasing down a donut, but if another cop needed help holding down a suspect, he could sit on the guy.
I guess Tulsa cops don't have to pass a physical fitness test.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:19 PM
Dude suffers from dickie-doo disease...
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:19 PM
I have an exclusive....
The Car is out of the plastic bag and in MINT Condition!!!!!
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:22 PM
Yeah, someone detailed it while it was suspended in mid air!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:22 PM
Quote:
Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
He's there as an offical ambassador of the Krispy Kreme franchise.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:22 PM
except thats coffeville kansas
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:24 PM
Quote:
Yeah, someone detailed it while it was suspended in mid air!
Correct. I saw Boyd leaving the scene about 10 minutes ago with AmsOil people.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:27 PM
Quote:
Judging by the rip in the visqueen, the car wasn't sealed up. My guess at this point is a rotted hunk of hulk.
and it would be different from many of the cars getting a mega dollar resto HOW ???
... as long as the VIN tag is intact
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:28 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Yeah, someone detailed it while it was suspended in mid air!
Correct. I saw Boyd leaving the scene about 10 minutes ago with AmsOil people.
"Bus Driver,,,, Move That Bus"..
as the 357 residents of Tulsa equipped with Armor All and microfiber rags stepped away...
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:32 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Judging by the rip in the visqueen, the car wasn't sealed up. My guess at this point is a rotted hunk of hulk.
and it would be different from many ofthe cars getting a megadollar resto HOW ???
... as long as the VIN tag is intact
Yep... should be a walk in the park to rebody a 57.
2 pop rivits and Wala... Good as New!
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:38 PM
Quote:
Since the car was new when they did this, and some of the parts off the car are still good, can those parts be sold on ebay as NOS?
I can't wait for te bag to be cut!
nope , once an NOS part is BOLTED to a car its just ANOTHER USED PART ...
Posted By: 472 R/T SE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:40 PM
It looks as though they used a combination of how they initially planned on lifting it out with how it went in.
I'm impressed the end pick points (same one's used in '57) held up.
That in itself has to be a good sign.
Posted By: KillerBee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:44 PM
Quote:
It looks as though they used a combination of how they initially planned on lifting it out with how it went in.
I'm impressed the end pick points (same one's used in '57) held up. That in itself has to be a good sign.
Unless the car is so rusted away it dosen't weigh much 
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:50 PM
I'm starting to feel like DennisH.. This has turned into a friggin circus..
I'm excited to see the car and the contents, but the people running the show there in Oklahoma is a joke..
What could have been very educational and valuable to our society has turned into a laughing matter and its only a matter of time before you see this topic on Davids Lettermans top ten list..
From unearthing the car 2 days early and putting up the screened fence to keep people from seeing it.. all the way to Boyd Cottington rushin in like he's John Wayne to save the day.. It just makes me ill..
I bet when its all over.. we'll find out the City, or the promoter or someone received big corporate money for sponsorship..
Posted By: 4mulaS
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:52 PM
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Hmmmmmm
I'd say Grandma looks none to pleased with local Law Enforcements liberal use of Camera Cell Phones
Look how fat those cops are
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/14/07 09:53 PM
Is there any pics of it in the bag when it first went in?
I'm guessing the bag had too much air in it.
The vault filled with water, and the pressure popped it
next time they should try one of those vacum bags you see on infomercials.
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:54 PM
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I'm starting to feel like DennisH.. This has turned into a friggin circus..
I'm excited to see the car and the contents, but the people running the show there in Oklahoma is a joke..
What could have been very educational and valuable to our society has turned into a laughing matter and its only a matter of time before you see this topic on Davids Lettermans top ten list..
From unearthing the car 2 days early and putting up the screened fence to keep people from seeing it.. all the way to Boyd Cottington rushin in like he's John Wayne to save the day.. It just makes me ill..
I bet when its all over.. we'll find out the City, or the promoter or someone received big corporate money for sponsorship..
I thought they weren't supposed to un-earth it till today. And like wtheck is Boyd gonna do there? He's useless to them 
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Tulsa in 10 days - 06/14/07 09:55 PM
Supposedly it was vacuumed.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:56 PM
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I thought they weren't supposed to un-earth it till today. And like wtheck is Boyd gonna do there? He's useless to them
He had to make sure the 22"ers and low prof tires where gonna fit under it.
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 09:58 PM
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I thought they weren't supposed to un-earth it till today. And like wtheck is Boyd gonna do there? He's useless to them
He had to make sure the 22"ers and low prof tires where gonna fit under it.
You mean Dwayne is gonna yell at someone to do that for him... errr umm.. them..
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:09 PM
Boyd C.????
What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.
I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:16 PM
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This has turned into a friggin circus..
I'm excited to see the car and the contents, but the people running the show there in Oklahoma is a joke..
It's only a circus on here and other websites from the anticipation. The Tulsa people are only doing what they need to do to get the car out of the ground, drain the vault, and lifting it out for any clean-up. The real damage was done years ago and I'm sure they thought they were protecting the car as well as they could in 1957. Too bad they didn't build an above ground vault. Here's hoping it's better than expected.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:19 PM
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Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
I think those are sheriff department deputies but Tulsa does have a krispy kreme store.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:21 PM
My Dad burried a Acorn on my birthdate
10-16-58
He told me to dig it up on my 50th birthday
But , I'm trying to figure out what to do
There is a big ol tree in the way now ?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:22 PM
Anybody remember the 73 RR out of the lake in MCG?
Heck it was a 50 footer, but up close...
I never heard that one, I would like to see it, anybody have pics??
Posted By: KillerBee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:23 PM
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Jeez look at the gut on that one cop
I think those are sheriff department deputies but Tulsa does have a krispy kreme store.
That's a new money saving policy of growing your own bullet proof vest instead of buying one.
Another benefit is your always wearing it
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:25 PM
I think it will turn out something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I98L5imvTh4
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:27 PM
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Anybody remember the 73 RR out of the lake in MCG?
Heck it was a 50 footer, but up close...
I never heard that one, I would like to see it, anybody have pics??
Wasn't really a lake
it was a big stock pond
in Nebraska ... One side (up side)
looked good
down side , where it laid ..not so good
Someone stole it from dealership and ran it into
pond ..1 or two yrs old when it happened
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:29 PM
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My Dad burried a Acorn on my birthdate
10-16-58
He told me to dig it up on my 50th birthday
But , I'm trying to figure out what to do
There is a big ol tree in the way now ?
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:34 PM
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Anybody remember the 73 RR out of the lake in MCG?
Heck it was a 50 footer, but up close...
I never heard that one, I would like to see it, anybody have pics??
Wasn't really a lake
it was a big stock pond
in Nebraska ... One side (up side)
looked good
down side , where it laid ..not so good
Someone stole it from dealership and ran it into
pond ..1 or two yrs old when it happened
Maybe I was being a little kind about condition,but yeah,that's the one,thanks Bigdad.
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 10:46 PM
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My Dad burried a Acorn on my birthdate
10-16-58
He told me to dig it up on my 50th birthday
But , I'm trying to figure out what to do
There is a big ol tree in the way now ?
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:25 PM
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Too bad they didn't have today's tech so they could've put a camera in there with it, now that would've been cool to see.
A sump pump would have been helpful. They even had those back then.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:31 PM
Well, it's back in the vault for the night. Will be brought back up at noon tomorrow.
Posted By: AZ-Nick
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:47 PM
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Boyd C.????
What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.
I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/14/07 11:50 PM
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Why do you think the bag is ripped? Remember yesterday when they put up the plastic so noone could see in? Don't you think they ripped it open to see what kind of shape the car is in??
My thought is that the weight and pressure of the water pushing in on it once it filled the vault caused it to tear, and right there at the fin wouldve been the most likely spot if there wasnt enough "loose bag" to allow for that. Put your hand in a plastic bag and then shove it down in a container of water. The bag will immediately try to take the form of your hand. All it would need to cause a leak is a sharp point....like a fin on a car maybe.
Posted By: 70challrtse
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:19 AM
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Boyd C.????
What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.
I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.
Galen is there. He is diguised as the obese cop.
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:21 AM
seems that the pics and videos are from a guy over on HAMB. That, along with the buried car site and the local news, should answer a lot of the questions. There is a new video of the trial lift, showing the tear and a bit of the bottom of the bag. Any hope the bag stayed intact inside a water-filled chamber is gone. I still hope the car goes to a museum and (aside from keeping it from getting worse) is displayed as-is. The darn thing is History. I say the party and car show is still worth attending (too bad I can't make it). Sure it would have been great if the car was undamaged, but seeing that isn't the whole reason anyway. I just hope the sites with live feeds tomorrow fare better than the tomb!
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:27 AM
I kinda like
(NOT) the part that they have had it up and down, in and out, and a whole bunch of other BS. The idea in 1957 was to bring it up, unwrap it and see what was there. Then give it to whomever.
Now we have limited access 2 or 3 days in advance, they're jerking the thing in and out but the best part is the actual raising of the car will be done while spectators have to pay to watch it at their convention center on TV for a SMALL FEE of Course.
Then 7 hours later, for I'm assuming another SMALL FEE you can watch as the plastic is removed. Who's to say there won't be a switcheroo involved??? Especially with BOYD involved. Food for thought.
Why wait 7 hours to unwrap it???
Why not just do it right there on the courthhouse lawn as was originally intended??? Becuase there is too much money to be made, by Boyd and the CITY OF TULSA. What a CROCK. SHAME SHAME ON THE CITY OF TULSA!!!
This could have been done a lot of different ways and still added money to there coffers, but it might have taken some effort. SHAME, SHAME, No 1957 American values there. JUST money grubbing city officials that don't have a clue. I'll bet most of them weren't even born in 1957
Tim
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:28 AM
I just got back from a drive downtown...took my daughter and she is now bouncing off the walls. There are plenty of '57 Plymouths to keep everyone happy. We counted 4, among which were a Plaza 2door sedan from MO, a Belvedere 4-door hardtop from CA, a Plaza 4-door sedan and a Belvedere coupe. Also, we saw a 58 Custom Royal D-500 coupe [VERY nice, from CA]
, and a '56 NYer, still retaining the HEMI and factory A/C.
Let the party begin!!
Posted By: GoManGo70Bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:28 AM
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Boyd C.????
What we really need is for GG to show up and verify that its a "1 of 1" '57 vault-buried Belvedere.
I hope the build sheet survived soaking in water for 50 years........otherwise we'll never know for sure.
Galen is there. He is diguised as the obese cop.
And they figured out that the oil slick on the water was chicken grease!!!!!
(sorry guys, couldnt help it!!!)
Posted By: 69 Road Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:38 AM
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I kinda like (NOT) the part that they have had it up and down, in and out, and a whole bunch of other BS. The idea in 1957 was to bring it up, unwrap it and see what was there. Then give it to whomever.
Now we have limited access 2 or 3 days in advance, they're jerking the thing in and out but the best part is the actual raising of the car will be done while spectators have to pay to watch it at their convention center on TV for a SMALL FEE of Course.
Then 7 hours later, for I'm assuming another SMALL FEE you can watch as the plastic is removed. Who's to say there won't be a switcheroo involved??? Especially with BOYD involved. Food for thought.
Why wait 7 hours to unwrap it???
Why not just do it right there on the courthhouse lawn as was originally intended??? Becuase there is too much money to be made, by Boyd and the CITY OF TULSA. What a CROCK. SHAME SHAME ON THE CITY OF TULSA!!!
This could have been done a lot of different ways and still added money to there coffers, but it might have taken some effort. SHAME, SHAME, No 1957 American values there. JUST money grubbing city officials that don't have a clue. I'll bet most of them weren't even born in 1957
Tim
Sheez! Relax. The 15th was always the unveiling day. They needed to first figure out what they're dealing with. If you don't like all that's going on these few days, just ignore it all until the unveiling.
Either the taxpayers would have to pay for this, or the spectators can pay. It's better if the spectators pay.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:43 AM
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Sheez! Relax.
I'm relaxed and glad I'm not wasting my time and money on this BS. This was just my take on this whole situation. No offense meant.
Tim
Posted By: da50r
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:51 AM
This has been on my Mopar Radar for a few years. Maybe 10. This is very poorly executed and as far as I am concerned... horrible for what it should have been. This very brainless woman or whoever is in charge just blew it bigtime... kinda sad... Bring it up, take off the plastic, and let us look...
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:57 AM
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I just got back from a drive downtown...took my daughter and she is now bouncing off the walls. There are plenty of '57 Plymouths to keep everyone happy. We counted 4, among which were a Plaza 2door sedan from MO, a Belvedere 4-door hardtop from CA, a Plaza 4-door sedan and a Belvedere coupe. Also, we saw a 58 Custom Royal D-500 coupe [VERY nice, from CA] , and a '56 NYer, still retaining the HEMI and factory A/C.
Let the party begin!!
I agree. I think the party is going to be great!
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:04 AM
You all must be a real bear day or two before christmas ..
We can wait , its only been 50 years
whats another 24 hours ?
Please everyone, check your blood pressure !
No strokes over this
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:11 AM
Wow...I wish I'd made that last post..."413."
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:14 AM
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This has been on my Mopar Radar for a few years. Maybe 10. This is very poorly executed and as far as I am concerned... horrible for what it should have been. This very brainless woman or whoever is in charge just blew it bigtime... kinda sad... Bring it up, take off the plastic, and let us look...
I agree with this too...
This is tomorrows schedule:
Notice they say "unearthing" well that has already happened:
Unearthing of Belvedere and Time Capsule
Friday, June 15, 2007 12:00noon
Tulsa County Courthouse. Limited public viewing available
Simulcast of Unearthing
Friday, June 15, 2007 12:00noon
Maxwell Convention Center, Exhibit Hall A. Closed Circuit Television
Next they say "Unveiling", I guess since I did not get involved I should keep quite but I say if "they" hide the car between the unearthing, take the plastic off, wash it, etc. it will be absolutely terrible...
Unveiling of Belvedere and Opening of Capsule
Friday, June 15, 2007 6:30pm
Maxwell Convention Center Arena. Doors open at 5:30pm
General Admission Tickets $5, $10 and $25 purchased through Carson Attractions
584-2000 or http://www.carsonattractions.com
I hope "they" have enough sense to take the plastic off in public; however the way this has unfolded I am afraid they might try to clean her up...
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:21 AM
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Wow...I wish I'd made that last post..."413."
hurry up, 426 is coming !
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:23 AM
Here's a video of the "test" lift for those that are interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9UxL9jqe_s
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:23 AM
No clean up [other than it getting rained on
] will occur, according to the promoter(s). Just as unearthed is how it is supposed to be shown at the noon presentation. Supposedly, at the unveiling, as well.
Posted By: Spike
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:25 AM
I agree with digging it up, unwrapping it and letting the chips lay where they may. If you need a test run to pull it out, do it that day for all to see. This is a history time capsule, no need to hide it.
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:26 AM
Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:43 AM
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Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?
do tell...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:23 AM
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Im going to be at work tomorrow at noon and we have a high speed internet connection(unlike dial-up here at the homestead)so is there going to be a site you can watch it on the web?
LINK
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:55 AM
Well, I have been in Tulsa for 14 hours now. I've seen the crane crew preparing the lift, talked to a woman who was present when the car was put into the vault, refused to be in a picture with Boyd, seen quite a few '57-'58 Plymouths and talked with people from all over the US as well as all over the world.
What sums up the whole thing best is what a gentleman from Forwardlook.net said.
"It's going to be beautiful"
No matter in what kind of a shape the car will be in it will be a unique moment in history for Mopar fans from all over the globe and Forward Look fans in particular. No matter what kind of a shape the car will be in it will still be a '57 Plymouth Belvedere 2dHT and that is simply beautiful. It will be a tribute to Virgil Exner who is regarded by many to be the greatest car designer ever. There are so many people here that when learning about the car for the first time instantly thought "I'm going to be there!" I can relate to the hardcore MoPar guy from New Zealand who had to take a sizeable loan to be here as I had to do the same. It doesn't matter. It will probably be one the greatest events ever. It is like the MoPar thing in general, if you have to ask you wouldn't understand.
It's all good, it's simply beautiful.
Hans
Posted By: 1970GTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:15 AM
Well written Hans. If I had the time, I'd be out there. I'm glad however, that through modern technology, I can enjoy the event too.
Enjoy!
Jim
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:05 PM
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Well written Hans. If I had the time, I'd be out there. I'm glad however, that through modern technology, I can enjoy the event too.
Enjoy!
Jim
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:16 PM
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Well written Hans. If I had the time, I'd be out there. I'm glad however, that through modern technology, I can enjoy the event too.
Not to be a nattering nabob of negativism - but:
I'm calling it right now that KOTV's servers don't have the bandwidth for a live stream that would support an unexpectedly large number of simultaneous connections....
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:28 PM
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I agree with digging it up, unwrapping it and letting the chips lay where they may. If you need a test run to pull it out, do it that day for all to see. This is a history time capsule, no need to hide it.
you guys need to think about what is involved with this type of job ... OHSA, the EPA , UNIONS ...
but seriously , i can see why they opened it a day or 2 earlier , it was long, drawn out process to just get the top off the thing without it breaking into pieces and falling on the roof of the car , how funny would that have been ? how long would people stand there to watch them dig the hole take off the top , pump out the water yada yada yada , even if it was free ... ????
some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:46 PM
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I agree with digging it up, unwrapping it and letting the chips lay where they may. If you need a test run to pull it out, do it that day for all to see. This is a history time capsule, no need to hide it.
but seriously , i can see why they opened it a day or 2 earlier , it was long, drawn out process to just get the top off the thing without it breaking into pieces and falling on the roof of the car , how funny would that have been ? how long would people stand there to watch them dig the hole take off the top , pump out the water yada yada yada , even if it was free ... ????
That's true... only the most diehard of car fanatics would be willing to stand out there for hours while they went through the painstaking process of all that. Especially if the weather's not good.
Plus, they had to check everything out beforehand to make sure that it would go without disaster... imagine if the steel skid was too rusty and broke while they were lifting the car.
Posted By: upnover
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 12:53 PM
is there a common hotel that everyone is staying at, i'd like to see some of the cars that drove in for the unearthing.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:24 PM
Man it's quite. I did a couple of quick google searches and haven't "unearthed" anything new. I guess not much is going to happen until noon now.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:25 PM
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some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
True, but I don't think it would cause the fin section that is shown to be open to look the same color as the plastic on the outside.
Anyway, we will know soon the shape of this car. And please don't take this as fact, I'm just reporting what was said on another site for what ever that's worth.
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My sources say they peeked under the tarp... floors and trunk are gone...
We will see soon enough. But as posted many times here, it's not really about the car. It's good times. I only wish I could have went to see this first hand and meet so many die-hards of this era of Mopars....and all Mopars in general.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:33 PM
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some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
True, but I don't think it would cause the fin section that is shown to be open to look the same color as the plastic on the outside.
Or the waterlines on the wall all the way to the top.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:34 PM
FYI if you are looking for other activities this weekend in and around Tulsa the Shelby people are having the "Shelby Mid-America Meet" at Hallett Motor Racing Circuit which is a very nice road racing track. In addtion the Mid America Ford Performance & Shelby Meet is occuring at the Tulsa Raceway Park for drag racing. They parking/showing their cars at the Tulsa Marriott® Southern Hills, 1902 East 71st. This is kind of a cool event to race both at Hallett and at Tulsa Raceway Park, plus the car show at the Marriott.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:37 PM
Hans are all the Forwardlook cars already in the convention center? If not I heard about a parade but have no details. Glad to hear you arrived.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:38 PM
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some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
True, but I don't think it would cause the fin section that is shown to be open to look the same color as the plastic on the outside.
Or the waterlines on the wall all the way to the top.
Yeah, and that.
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:39 PM
I wonder what would be said about us if we buried a car today and had it unearthed in 2057.
Would we be commented about the technology we used that we consider high tech today.
Makes you wonder how times change.
We must all remember that nature is a very powerful force. Sometimes very quick ( hurricanes) sometimes very
slow. Personally I feel the car is doomed. Rusted beyond belief. I think it has been swimming for at least 49 years.
Hope I am wrong.
Jules
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:43 PM
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some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
True, but I don't think it would cause the fin section that is shown to be open to look the same color as the plastic on the outside.
Or the waterlines on the wall all the way to the top.
no i'm not saying that the water was only from the cutting operation , but i'll bet some of that SHEEN on top of the water was also created by the lube they used to cut the concrete , but oil back then was in cardboard containers so i'm guessing that those disintergrated after X amount of water cycles .
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:47 PM
The process of removal takes more than a couple of hours. Somebody probably had the insight to think... Hey what do we do if the car is toast? They knew something would be there but didn't know what it would be for sure.
They did what they had to do. They slowly opened it, accessed the situation and made sure that they could lift it out.
I have two disapointments.
1. They should have covered up the courthouse windows and put up a privacy fence first. They should have kept it secret. I guess they figured they would build suspense but it just got all the hens clucking instead.
2. I wish it would not have been so water logged. It was to be expected but I still had those little kid anticipations of it being pristine. I knew better but still....
Heck I would love to have it rust bucket or not. It is probalbly the only low miles 57 Plymouth left.
I see a cool chance at a nice restoration. I've seen terible cars pulled from woods or from on top of barrels that turned out quite nice. It may be totally toast but it may not. We will find out later today.
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:49 PM
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I wonder what would be said about us if we buried a car today and had it unearthed in 2057.
Would we be commented about the technology we used that we consider high tech today.
Makes you wonder how times change.
We must all remember that nature is a very powerful force. Sometimes very quick ( hurricanes) sometimes very
slow. Personally I feel the car is doomed. Rusted beyond belief. I think it has been swimming for at least 49 years.
Hope I am wrong.
Jules
Someone on the MML just stated that in 1998 they buried a 98 Prowler in Tulsa to be opened in 2048.
I'll be 68 years old then, hopefully.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:51 PM
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some of the water in that hole was ADDED by the process of opening it up also , they showed pics of them sawing the cover into sections correct ? concrete cutting involves spraying water on the blade to cool it and as a lubricant ...
True, but I don't think it would cause the fin section that is shown to be open to look the same color as the plastic on the outside.
Or the waterlines on the wall all the way to the top.
no i'm not saying that the water was only from the cutting operation , but i'll bet some of that SHEEN on top of the water was also created by the lube they used to cut the concrete , but oil back then was in cardboard containers so i'm guessing that those disintergrated after X amount of water cycles .
Ok, yes. I agree with you on that. That was my first thought as well when I saw the sheen of oils/gas.
I saw a pic somewhere in this thread...I believe it was a video made of pics where you can see them draining the gas out of the old girl. There is no way that after 50 years that "sheen" is still there from the car after 50 years. Especially when you can clearly see that the water was to the top. Maybe several times during those 50 years. Many times of flush and repeat.
Again, I see what you are saying and I agree.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 01:57 PM
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1. They should have covered up the courthouse windows and put up a privacy fence first. They should have kept it secret. I guess they figured they would build suspense but it just got all the hens clucking instead.
They should have wrapped a bag around the whole courthouse area so nothing could be compromised like they did the Belvedere.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. That was a joke. A bad one at that.
Edit: It just shows you we haven't made it far after 50 years. 
Posted By: Barry70GTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:14 PM
We are at the Double Tree downtown and there are about 25 to 30 50's Mopars in the parking garage.
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:14 PM
Ok, is the big event at 12 noon or 7pm???
I've seen posts that say both.. and the KOTV.com site says 7pm?
This is killin me as I sit at my desk at work, Hopefull I can watch it here (DSL) connection. If its tonite, I'm doomed as we are still in the dark ages at my house (dial up)
Posted By: Barry70GTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:19 PM
12 noon is when it is removed from the vault. Tonight will be when they uncover the car and show the contents.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:20 PM
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Ok, is the big event at 12 noon or 7pm???
I've seen posts that say both.. and the KOTV.com site says 7pm?
This is killin me as I sit at my desk at work, Hopefull I can watch it here (DSL) connection. If its tonite, I'm doomed as we are still in the dark ages at my house (dial up)
Unearthed @ 12:00pm
Unveiled @ 6:30pm
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:23 PM
Thanks guys, looks like I gotta wait for the video to be posted here tomorrow...
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:26 PM
After reading this thread with great interest I would like to add one thing:
There are many items in this time capsule. The car is only one of the items in it. I dont care how they pull it out of the ground or what shape it is in. The fun is in the process of finding out how well everything comes out.
Besides, it is a fun little peek at history, and a way to have a great event.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:30 PM
im outta here at noon headed to tulsa to be there live and in person. regardless of the condition of the car its cool no matter what plus there are going to be a ton of forward look mopars to look at!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:34 PM
Here is another possibility that has to be thought of.
How were the microfiche stored? If they were just in an envelope with gas and cardboard oil containers in the trunk there may be another problem.
They were not figuring that they would be unearthing a waterlogged car. So there is a possibility that the microfiche is unreadable, or simply destroyed entirely. Again I say this as I don't remember reading how the microfiche was stored.
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:34 PM
as I've followed this thread and the others in the past year or so, I too, wish I could be on hand for the event. It's not just about the car as stated above. Just the chance to meet folks from all over the US and other countries and just being able to soak up the atmosphere would be enough for me. Plus I'm sure there will be good food and beer on hand.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:37 PM
fische are in a welded steel tube
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:37 PM
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How were the microfiche stored? If they were just in an envelope with gas and cardboard oil containers in the trunk there may be another problem.
My understanding is it's in a metal vessel that was welded shut and placed in the truck.
Speaking of the contents of the truck, if the trunk floor was rotten wouldn't there be Shlitz cans floating around?
Posted By: igozumn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:39 PM
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Speaking of the contents of the truck, if the trunk floor was rotten wouldn't there be Shlitz cans floating around?
Um, no. Didn't you see the gut on the one cop? I'm sure donuts by themselves didn't make that happen.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:43 PM
50 year old Shlitz and a jelly filled, breakfast of champions!
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:53 PM
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Speaking of the contents of the truck, if the trunk floor was rotten wouldn't there be Shlitz cans floating around?"
Probably rotted out like the trunk floor as aluminum cans weren't around yet.
C'mon 6:30!!
As others have said, I don't care what kind of shape its in, I just want to see it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 02:53 PM
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How were the microfiche stored? If they were just in an envelope with gas and cardboard oil containers in the trunk there may be another problem.
My understanding is it's in a metal vessel that was welded shut and placed in the truck.
Speaking of the contents of the truck, if the trunk floor was rotten wouldn't there be Shlitz cans floating around?
Haha. I thought that too.
But just like when it was buried we were unclear of how it was lowered in, then raised for publicity photos.
In all reality IMO, I think the car is still Intact for the most part.
But I think the floors/trunk/frame might be holding on by a string.
I hope I'm wrong.
Gotta admit though, she is holding up strong from the pics released so far.
I wish her all the best.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:00 PM
i've said it 100 times, i think shes ok, maybe floors and a trunk floor need replaced? so what. its a full frame car and shes still sits up real nice.
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:02 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:08 PM
bunch of non-car people that are writing the car off!
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:10 PM
The ad for the local aquarium at the end of that report was humorously ironic--"See what's underground, see what's under water."
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:13 PM
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The ad for the local aquarium at the end of that report was humorously ironic--"See what's underground, see what's under water."
someone needs to scan that or find a copy on line 
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:15 PM
Has anyone found out if CSPAN or another satellite channel is going to upload this feed? They are willing to let us watch at work, but here in So. Cal. we don't get Tulsa stations, and I have a feeling that the 2 sites will be overloaded.....
Anyone?
EDIT we've got Direct TV, and channel 102 has the 8 major news feeds, so it looks like we will be watching there to see who's covering.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:17 PM
ever see that commercial for craftsman tools where the sporting event go wrongs and they show the mechanic guy grabbing his tools and sneaking off as the announcer says "not the official tools of professional XXXXX"
Well they need the guy who built the vault to tell us what tools he used to seal it up with cause they obviously were not craftsman....
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:21 PM
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ever see that commercial for craftsman tools where the sporting event go wrongs and they show the mechanic guy grabbing his tools and sneaking off as the announcer says "not the official tools of professional XXXXX"
Well they need the guy who built the vault to tell us what tools he used to seal it up with cause they obviously were not craftsman....
Oh what a GREAT commercial that would make. Good one!
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:21 PM
I can't believe none of the national news stations (atleast the ones I've seen) have said a word about this. I thought this would be in all the news around the country, but I guess opening a 50 yr old time capsule isn't news anymore.
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:23 PM
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I can't believe none of the national news stations (atleast the ones I've seen) have said a word about this. I thought this would be in all the news around the country, but I guess opening a 50 yr old time capsule isn't news anymore.
Hasn't even shown up on Yahoo as a news item either...
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:24 PM
good, less people to hog bandwidth
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:27 PM
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good, less people to hog bandwidth
True, dat!
Posted By: Magnumguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:41 PM
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Well, I have been in Tulsa for 14 hours now. I've seen the crane crew preparing the lift, talked to a woman who was present when the car was put into the vault, refused to be in a picture with Boyd, seen quite a few '57-'58 Plymouths and talked with people from all over the US as well as all over the world.
What sums up the whole thing best is what a gentleman from Forwardlook.net said.
"It's going to be beautiful"
No matter in what kind of a shape the car will be in it will be a unique moment in history for Mopar fans from all over the globe and Forward Look fans in particular. No matter what kind of a shape the car will be in it will still be a '57 Plymouth Belvedere 2dHT and that is simply beautiful. It will be a tribute to Virgil Exner who is regarded by many to be the greatest car designer ever. There are so many people here that when learning about the car for the first time instantly thought "I'm going to be there!" I can relate to the hardcore MoPar guy from New Zealand who had to take a sizeable loan to be here as I had to do the same. It doesn't matter. It will probably be one the greatest events ever. It is like the MoPar thing in general, if you have to ask you wouldn't understand.
It's all good, it's simply beautiful.
Hans
Fin-ally, someone's understanding the whole thing. Lots of finned Mopars gathering, like a Mecca, coming to see it's long awaited resurrection take place. So what if it's rusty? So what if it's not done 'just right"? Big stinkin' deal. It's the whole deal, the leading up to it, to actual raising and unveiling.
Some folks just don't get it,, same folks would be slobbering over themselves if this was a Hemi 'Cuda. Enjoy it for what it is.
I just hope someone is takiing pictures, capturing/copying videos from these TV stattions, etc.
Sign me up for a copy.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:43 PM
I went to KOTV.COM and they have a e-clip with Boyd from this morning. It sure sounds like they are going to let his crew work on the car after it is taken into the convention center to prepare it for the unveiling. I pray the people can convince the officials to simply unveil the car "as is"... Watch the video yourself...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:43 PM
i'll be taking plenty of pics
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:44 PM
paula hale, one of the people in charge assured us that the car will be left as is for the unveiling. as well as the entire weekend.
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:48 PM
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I can't believe none of the national news stations (atleast the ones I've seen) have said a word about this. I thought this would be in all the news around the country, but I guess opening a 50 yr old time capsule isn't news anymore.
At the TV station where I work, I asked the assignment desk this morning if they were going to mention it at all. The look I received told me everything The first question was "Somebody buried a car? Why?" and it went downhill from there. Who cares about Tulsa... How does this affect Chicago... Who wants to see a bunch of rednecks dig a hole in the ground... People who like old cars are (insert multiple derogatory statements here)
This "I am smarter/more cultured/more sophisticated than you" attitude from these liberal journalists is getting out of hand. They dont want to cover the event because that is something that "the common(read stupid) people do".
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 03:52 PM
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Let us Chevy Guys help you out:
http://www.tulsachevys.com/Images/buriedcar/index.html
Just what I'd expect from a Chevy guy - you're too slow
That link was posted yesterday.
No problem, Bob, but did ya look at the link ??
http: //www.tulsa chevys .com/Images/buriedcar/index.html
and, FTR, I was only answering the question of 'where are the pics coming from?'......
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:02 PM
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This "I am smarter/more cultured/more sophisticated than you" attitude from these liberal journalists is getting out of hand. They dont want to cover the event because that is something that "the common(read stupid) people do".
Ask them if they write to a sixth grade level (bet they do), and if Paris et. al. is "culture...
And I'm glad others 'get it' too. This is cool, no matter the condition. Boyd is the mainstream car guy for that level of culture, but I'll ignore him and concentrate on the neat stuff.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:08 PM
News reports are that the covered car has been cleaned off for the unearthing.
Posted By: koak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:09 PM
Is there a live stream to watch??? Been waiting 20 years for this!
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:10 PM
I wish a national station was covering it
Posted By: B5TA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:11 PM
Hey that was my question!!!!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:12 PM
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News reports are that the covered car has been cleaned off for the unearthing.
What news report? I've heard no such report here in Tulsa...
Posted By: B5TA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:15 PM
Wagomaster what is the time zone out there? are you 2 hrs behind EST ?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:16 PM
Central...1 hr behind EST.
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:17 PM
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I went to KOTV.COM and they have a e-clip with Boyd from this morning. It sure sounds like they are going to let his crew work on the car after it is taken into the convention center to prepare it for the unveiling. I pray the people can convince the officials to simply unveil the car "as is"... Watch the video yourself...
Noooooooo.....
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:24 PM
Ok, folks...our media approved member Diego [442W30] left my home and is on the scene [in downtown Tulsa] for the unearthing. He promises photos and will likely get some video.
As I get updates, I'll post them. I'm going to watch it on the television, too, as well as record it - if the antique VCR still works - for a buddy who can't get here.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:32 PM
Make sure they don't try the old SWITCH-A-ROO!!! LOL
Posted By: gtx4406pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:39 PM
Posted By: 72bebeep
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:39 PM
http://newsok.com/Supposed to be a live webcast here,I had to register to view.
Brad
Posted By: anlauto
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:39 PM
I hope Boydd has a custom set of 22 inchers to bolt on before the unvailing
Posted By: Florida_70Bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:41 PM
Heard Boyd has already fired 5 of his empolyees because they refused to put his 20 inch Boydster wheels on the Belevdere and chop the top for tonights unveiling.
Whoever thought that Boyd should be involved with this is an idiot.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:43 PM
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Whoever thought that Boyd should be involved with this is an idiot.
I couldn't agree more
Posted By: NANKET
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:48 PM
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Whoever thought that Boyd should be involved with this is an idiot.
I couldn't agree more
Like he will add anything positive to this, yelling at people, degrading them and pumping his chest, NO THANKS. Does any real car people care what he thinks or does?
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:49 PM
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Does any real car people care what he thinks or does?
absolutely i do... that way i can do the exact opposite.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:49 PM
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Live Steamning Video on now!!
http://www.kjrh.com/content/live/belvedere.aspx
I'm on cable and the feed keeps cutting out........... 
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:49 PM
QUICK,
I have CNN on, and they are live RIGHT NOW!!!!
Posted By: gtx4406pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:50 PM
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Live Steamning Video on now!!
http://www.kjrh.com/content/live/belvedere.aspx
I'm on cable and the feed keeps cutting out...........
Mine too!!!
I also have it on local TV so I'm lucky!!!
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:50 PM
Herb had been working extensively with the organizers...to the point that he and some others had tracked down date correct replacement parts for the ignition, fuel system, etc. to try and get the car running...A few weeks ago, he was told that Boyd, with help from Pep Boys..
...were going to be involved.
Herb told them to let him know how many '57 Plymouth parts they had in stock.....
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:56 PM
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Make sure they don't try the old SWITCH-A-ROO!!! LOL
That's why Boyd is there, to distract people so they can pull it off
Posted By: ErikR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:57 PM
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Whoever thought that Boyd should be involved with this is an idiot.
I couldn't agree more
Like he will add anything positive to this, yelling at people, degrading them and pumping his chest, NO THANKS. Does any real car people care what he thinks or does?
You said it, Foose and his Dad would have been a better choice
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:57 PM
This buffering of the live stream is really yanking my chain.....
Posted By: 68SportFury
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:58 PM
I'm guessing Boyd was invited because someone knew his name.
I'm having trouble with the video on my dial-up connection, but headlines like "Buried Belvedere's crypt full of water" aren't exactly encouraging.
One story I read said Boyd was supposedly going to try to start the car at the official unveiling tonight. Unless he and his crew are planning to rebuild the engine and electrical system before 7PM tonight, I don't think that's very likely.
Posted By: Tesla_HV
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 04:58 PM
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This buffering of the live stream is really yanking my chain.....
Posted By: NANKET
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:01 PM
Unless he and his crew are planning to rebuild the engine and electrical system before 7PM tonight, I don't think that's very likely.
He will yell insults at everyone then have an outside vendor do the actual work. hurry, hurry, deadline, deadline!
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:02 PM
CNNis back live....
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:02 PM
on CNN now!!
was...will be again....supposedly
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:03 PM
I can't belive how BAD the streaming video is, it took a dump right at noon....
Posted By: Florida_70Bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:03 PM
Well I'm sitting trying to watch And I get nothing but bits and pieces THIS SUX!
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:05 PM
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This buffering of the live stream is really yanking my chain.....
This live stream is terrible... im not getting to see anything.
Im going to have to wait for a replay..
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:05 PM
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it took a dump right at noon....
Yep
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:05 PM
i must have a different cnn because our cnn isnt covering crap
Posted By: 69DodgeCharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:05 PM
What live CNN feed would that be? All I see is the same old stories recycled every 20 minutes about Palestinians killing each other, and the international space station.....Oh and "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:05 PM
Posted By: 1972CudaV21
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:06 PM
Damm...it's on the flatbed but the plastic stays on until tonight!
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:06 PM
Ch8 in tulsa has it too on the web...
Tulsa Ch8
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:07 PM
OKC stations didn't carry it but it was on MSNBC.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:07 PM
Lifting the tank...the bumpers and lights look like they are in great shape. Can still see the taillight lenses and the backup light lenses.
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:08 PM
You're too late.
CNN was on for about 1:30mins
Posted By: donscuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:08 PM
It was also shown on MSNBC...they showed the whole thing up to when it was placed on the ground...
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:09 PM
Can't be...just now came out of the ground...watching it real time.
Posted By: Tesla_HV
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:09 PM
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This live stream is terrible... im not getting to see anything.
Im going to have to wait for a replay..
I finally had to give up.
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:10 PM
So much for Al Gore's internet....
The bandwidth has be strecthed to it's maximum....
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:11 PM
CNN .....
They didn't show it here even though they said they would,and I'm in thier hometown
Video feeds were useless also
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:11 PM
online cnn is working nicely
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:11 PM
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:11 PM
why don't all of you stop watching so it will free up some bandwidth for me!!!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:12 PM
Went to commercial...maybe back for bringing up the seald tank.
It is recorded...figured out the VCR.
Posted By: 340wedge
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:12 PM
SO um....what shape did it come out in?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:13 PM
Tarps are still on, BUT, it looks like the shape is good, saw the front bumper end...looked good, the back looked good, as well as the lenses. Still not unveiled...that happens tonight.
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:14 PM
I bet it will be on Youtube soon.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:15 PM
Where are you, Gary?
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:16 PM
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Where are you, Gary?
I'm home. Gotta pickup the wife at 1:30 then head to Tulsa.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:18 PM
*taking deep breaths*
OK, is there SOMEWHERE online we can watch the unveiling without the live feed taking a dump?
Is the live feed done for now at KOTV? I can't even find it on their site now.
Posted By: john55
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:19 PM
Whoever thought that Boyd should be involved with this is an idiot.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:19 PM
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*taking deep breaths*
OK, is there SOMEWHERE online we can watch the unveiling without the live feed taking a dump?
Is the live feed done for now at KOTV? I can't even find it on their site now.
I am watching the curent live feed at www.cnn.com the car is up, but the feed is still filming....
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:20 PM
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*taking deep breaths*
OK, is there SOMEWHERE online we can watch the unveiling without the live feed taking a dump?
Is the live feed done for now at KOTV? I can't even find it on their site now.
I am watching the curent live feed at www.cnn.com the car is up, but the feed is still filming....
That link says I have to "sign up"
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:22 PM
yeaa,,, it just did that to me... seems it gave me a 3min teaser then said I had to sign up for a subscription to the service...
GRRRR
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:23 PM
same here...
Posted By: Tesla_HV
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:24 PM
ditto...
Posted By: ricomondo
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:24 PM
What a BUNCH o' Super Golden Crips!!!!
CNN wants you to "sign up" for a Free? trial, and you have to include a CC #???
Guess I'll have to wait for the commerative
"Tulsa - unearthing DVD box set"
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:26 PM
KOTV.com is the news channel here in Ty=ulsa. They will have the film of it on the website. E-clip.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:26 PM
Too funny, the sound was off the entire time the enterviewed Boyd. That CNN live feed stinks...and someone should tell the CNN guy that it's not good to stand directly in front of the camera, all I could see for 5 minutes was his shirt collar and tie.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:26 PM
Lets hate em now and avoid the rush
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:34 PM
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Too funny, the sound was off the entire time the enterviewed Boyd
that is the way I would have preferred it anyway.
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:34 PM
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Too funny, the sound was off the entire time the enterviewed Boyd
that is the way I would have preferred it anyway.
i had sound but no video... consider yourself lucky
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:41 PM
Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748Enjoy!
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:42 PM
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Well written Hans. If I had the time, I'd be out there. I'm glad however, that through modern technology, I can enjoy the event too.
Not to be a nattering nabob of negativism - but:
I'm calling it right now that KOTV's servers don't have the bandwidth for a live stream that would support an unexpectedly large number of simultaneous connections....
Posted By: ViperDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:42 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:43 PM
whos got pictures....each web site is all jacked up
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:43 PM
There must be a huge amount of people trying to get at it. It's taking forever to load and I'm on a super fast connection.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:44 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
Posted By: dmz73
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:46 PM
Here is the link for the official schedule of events-
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/buriedcarunearthed/events.aspx >
I'm dying to know....
Dan
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:46 PM
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best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
Link leads to the website, and probably worked just fine until about a second after he posted it and everyone here clicked it.
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:46 PM
exactly.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:47 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
You have to wait a bit for it to load It is a good link.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:48 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
As mentioned above, the site is slammed at the moment. Give it time, it will work eventually. If you want to skip the site, here is a URL to open with Windows Media Player.
http://kotv.com/common/asx/dynamic.aspx?id=6748
Posted By: Mstaedt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:49 PM
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best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
Link leads to the website, and probably worked just fine until about a second after he posted it and everyone here clicked it.
It worked when it was just Boyd on there. Now that it's worth watching....
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:49 PM
Yep... just wait a bit... and it will load fine
Watching the original unearthing now
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:50 PM
I think that they (BC) will have time to work on the engine to get it to "turnover" and start.
He has already made the comment twice that he is there to get it running.
My bet is that he and his crew will be working on the engine to get it running ONLY. Getting it to driving is a whole new animal.
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:51 PM
I've read it and it's been posted here. Boyd is there to change out the fluids and get it running.
Buncha jealous jesses
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:51 PM
Concerning the reasons the brought Boyd to get the car running.
Why they would choose a guy who hacks up original cars into Hot Rods, as opposed to someone who is dedicated to RESTORING a classic car is beyond me. Any neat original restoration details that remain that the car may still provide other owners doing restorations will soon be destroyed once he starts tearing into the engine in any attempt to get it running....I can just see him tossing priceless original items over his shoulder like filters, belts, hoses, and other cool small parts. Even if it's soggy and rusty, the original details will show through.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:52 PM
I hope he just keeps his hands off until after it is unveiled. That is how it is supposed to be...
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:53 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Don't be so sure, link leads to nothing.
As mentioned above, the site is slammed at the moment. Give it time, it will work eventually. If you want to skip the site, here is a URL to open with Windows Media Player.
http://kotv.com/common/asx/dynamic.aspx?id=6748
The wmv file it shows in there is this:
http://kotvradio.kotv.com/kotv/eclips/070615NoonBuriedCar.wmv
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:53 PM
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I hope he just keeps his hands off until after it is unveiled. That is how it is supposed to be...
agreed!
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:54 PM
I couldn't get video feed but they have a story that says the contents of the cars glovebox contains the contents of a typical ladies purse.
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and the contents of a typical woman's handbag placed in the glove compartment: 14 bobby pins, a bottle of tranquilizers, a lipstick, a pack of gum, tissues, a pack of cigarettes, matches and $2.43.
Does anybody think it's funny that half that stuff isn't considered useful or politically correct?
I would hate to see what a typical purse today would contain.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:55 PM
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I think that they (BC) will have time to work on the engine to get it to "turnover" and start.
He has already made the comment twice that he is there to get it running.
Who cares if it runs today
Why destroy whats left of the motor & Trans just to say it ran today About as dumb as it gets
Watch them start it up...
Wipe out whats left of the engine and tear it clean off the rusted frame in the process
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:57 PM
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Concerning the reasons the brought Boyd to get the car running.
Why they would choose a guy who hacks up original cars into Hot Rods, as opposed to someone who is dedicated to RESTORING a classic car is beyond me.
You know why he was brought Scott. You don't have to be good or liked to be famous or somewhat famous. He was brought because someone on the unearthing committee thought'd it be cool to have the infamous Boyd C. there.
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 05:58 PM
In the video one of his crew had a hand-written t-shirt on saying "Boyd Coddington's Crew"...somehow that does NOT inspire confidence.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:00 PM
Is anybody giving odds on if any of the tires is still aired up? Or, how many are still aired up?
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:00 PM
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I couldn't get video feed but they have a story that says the contents of the cars glovebox contains the contents of a typical ladies purse.
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and the contents of a typical woman's handbag placed in the glove compartment: 14 bobby pins, a bottle of tranquilizers, a lipstick, a pack of gum, tissues, a pack of cigarettes, matches and $2.43.
Does anybody think it's funny that half that stuff isn't considered useful or politically correct?
I would hate to see what a typical purse today would contain.
I posted earlier (MUCH earlier) about the tranquilizers. I thought life was good in the '50's? Or was this why things were 'good'?
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:00 PM
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Concerning the reasons the brought Boyd to get the car running.
They needed a 'car' celeb and Chip was booked this weekend. LOL
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:02 PM
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He was brought because someone on the unearthing committee thought'd it be cool to have the infamous Boyd C.
There were several organizers who had never seen or heard of Coddington. My guess is he was "brought in" b/c of $$$.
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:03 PM
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I've read it and it's been posted here. Boyd is there to change out the fluids and get it running.
Buncha jealous jesses
What kinda oil should he use? 
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:05 PM
IF the bag stayed sealed,would there not have still been enough air trappped inside to make it float at least a little,including air in cabin,trunk,engine compartment,and the tires?
Would it still have been evenly centered on the base as it appeared to be?
From what little I saw I think it was swimming much of the time.
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:05 PM
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ever see that commercial for craftsman tools where the sporting event go wrongs and they show the mechanic guy grabbing his tools and sneaking off as the announcer says "not the official tools of professional XXXXX"
Well they need the guy who built the vault to tell us what tools he used to seal it up with cause they obviously were not craftsman....
No - that's the guy that worked at the plastic bag car cover factory that DIDN'T SHOW when she tried to introduce him at the beginning!
"Oh I saw him at breakfast. Dick? are you here?...."
Posted By: jrwoodjoe
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:06 PM
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He was brought because someone on the unearthing committee thought'd it be cool to have the infamous Boyd C.
My guess is he was "brought in" b/c of $$$.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. Joe
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:07 PM
Yes Joe, I agree why he was brought in....I'm sure the car would be in much better hands with some of the adoring fans in the crowd who have lovingly restored countless late 50's Mopars as opposed to "Hack Saw" Boyd.
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There were several organizers who had never seen or heard of Coddington. My guess is he was "brought in" b/c of $$$.
Right, politics at thier best. It was funny watching the one girl interviewing Boyd, she didn't know his name (looked down and read it off the cue card she had).
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:08 PM
Boyd, is probably sending his lackey out to O'Reilleys about now. Bridge game is at 8 tonight I think.
And I agree he was brought in because the comittee is probably all non car folks and they didn't know any better.
What will be , will be, 2 late to change anything now.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:09 PM
My opinion of Coddington, if I wrote it, would get me banned from MOPARTS.
Hopefully, no further action will be allowed of him than to mess with the engine. Knowing Coddington, he'll look at it and throw his hands up.
BTW, he is almost as big as our deputy which was pointed out earlier....
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:11 PM
I wonder if they'll show the "preperation" on a special episode of American Hot Rod?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:12 PM
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Hopefully, no further action will be allowed of him than to mess with the engine. Knowing Coddington, he'll look at it and throw his hands up.
I'm sure he brought a small black Chevy crate motor and turbo 400 trans to install should the old Mopar fail to fire up with a fresh squirt of gas
Posted By: 69DodgeCharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:13 PM
BTW, he is almost as big as our deputy which was pointed out earlier....
Your telling me Boyd weighs 300+ lbs.
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:14 PM
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Boyd, is probably sending his lackey out to O'Reilleys
We were actually told is was Pep Boys.....
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:15 PM
While we are waiting for 6:00 pm Central time , here is buriedcar.com picures including some visitors cars.
http://buriedcar.myphotoalbum.com/albums.phpNo pictures from today yet.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:16 PM
It makes sense to me why they hired Boyd to be there (yes I figure they've paid him), this whole thing is a tourist atraction for Tulsa, not a car guy's popularity contest.
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:17 PM
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Hopefully, no further action will be allowed of him than to mess with the engine. Knowing Coddington, he'll look at it and throw his hands up.
I'm sure he brought a small black Chevy crate motor and turbo 400 trans to install should the old Mopar fail to fire up with a fresh squirt of gas
Boy'd is gonna have Duhwayne push it on stage while he makes engine sounds into the microphone...as banjo music softly plays in the background
Posted By: amxautox
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:17 PM
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Yes Joe, I agree why he was brought in....I'm sure the car would be in much better hands with some of the adoring fans in the crowd who have lovingly restored countless late 50's Mopars as opposed to "Hack Saw" Boyd.
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There were several organizers who had never seen or heard of Coddington. My guess is he was "brought in" b/c of $$$.
Right, politics at thier best. It was funny watching the one girl interviewing Boyd, she didn't know his name (looked down and read it off the cue card she had).
This thing is on tv/web site someplace?
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:19 PM
Are there any pictures around of the crypt after she was removed?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:20 PM
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My opinion of Coddington, if I wrote it, would get me banned from MOPARTS.
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He's a car god?
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Posted By: 440newport
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:25 PM
Poor thing, I had high hopes it'd be OK, but the way the top of that vault looks, it probably started leaking right away. Even if they dug it up in '67 it probably wouldn't look much better. At least it still looks the right shape under the tarp. I'm hoping it can be saved and that Boyd doesn't butcher it too bad.
Posted By: 71TA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:25 PM
Thanks for the link above. Watching it now. they just "flashed" Boyd's wifey (the purdy one
)
It's in 3 plastic bags but WHAT was the level of plstic technology back in 57. Heck 70 Challenger door panels chalk!!!
THE JUST SHOWED A TAILLIGHT HANGING OUTT THE BAG. ugh!!! It's gonna be bad!!!
The guy that worked at the bag factory is there. I would leave if I were him (with my tail between my legs).
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:27 PM
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My opinion of Coddington, if I wrote it, would get me banned from MOPARTS.
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He's a car god?
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I wonder if a link to a cartoon of my opinion [of Coddington] would get me banned? How about it, mods?
Posted By: CJK440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:32 PM
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THE JUST SHOWED A TAILLIGHT HANGING OUTT THE BAG. ugh!!! It's gonna be bad!!!
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:33 PM
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I wonder if a link to a cartoon of my opinion [of Coddington] would get me banned? How about it, mods?
If you have to ask then the answer is prob yes, PM it to me to me though I need a laugh today. Recovering from a trip to the doctor. Man that anesthesia is goooood stuff!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:37 PM
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THE JUST SHOWED A TAILLIGHT HANGING OUTT THE BAG. ugh!!! It's gonna be bad!!!
That's where my opinion differs. That is just silt on the car. You can still see chrome through the silt and the lenses are unbroken.
Wile1Coyote...you have a PM.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:38 PM
Just watched the video and the 'dance' on the crane. The exposed left rear corner looked pretty bad, I cant even imagine what the interior and engine myst be like. I saw in the film Boyd looking underneath the car briefly, he just shook his head, but he is always extremely cynical,
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:38 PM
one of the close i saw on video showed what appeared to be rusty flaking chrome on the LR corner. Also showed a tear /exposed fin tip on the RR as well but much smaller. Doesn't look good
Tim
Posted By: anlauto
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:39 PM
Maybe they'll wash it?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:39 PM
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That's where my opinion differs. That is just silt on the car. You can still see chrome through the silt and the lenses are unbroken.
that picture and the way the car is sitting up gives me false hope too
The whole bottom is probably gonna be rotted out of it though, anywhere that mud and water could settle and dry when the water level would recede.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:48 PM
Any new pics?
Can't get any of the videos to work. Heard that somebody got a peek at the front of the car too???
I still don't think Boyd and his goons will have it running, but I'm holding out hope that the car is pretty solid.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:48 PM
That does not look good.
and can someone tell that lady that she does not need to announce "There she is" anymore.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:53 PM
It's great to see that the hobbiests aren't the only ones in the world getting excited about a rusty old car!
Posted By: Paul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:54 PM
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Any new pics?
Can't get any of the videos to work. Heard that somebody got a peek at the front of the car too???
I still don't think Boyd and his goons will have it running, but I'm holding out hope that the car is pretty solid.
videos won't open for me either, they must be overwhelmed.
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 06:57 PM
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I still don't think Boyd and his goons will have it running, but I'm holding out hope that the car is pretty solid.
Them jabronis can't even get the stuff they build to run.
I swore that Herb McCandless announced at MATS that he was going to get the car running. Did he get outbid?
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:00 PM
For those who don't like Boyd (I don't know him well enough to have an opinion) just remember it could be worse.
They could have called these guys.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:02 PM
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For those who don't like Boyd (I don't know him well enough to have an opinion) just remember it could be worse.
They could have called these guys.
I heard they were gonna do a tribute bike for it, and then bury themselves and make the rest of the world happy.
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:03 PM
As of MATS, Herb was going to be there to hopefully get the beast running.
After getting many of the correct parts together [i.e. 1957 vintage parts], Herb was told a few weeks ago about Coddington's involvement, and from that point forward wanted nothing to do with the project.
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:03 PM
doesnt look good.
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:05 PM
you see the chrome has peeled off the bumper.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:07 PM
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you see the chrome has peeled off the bumper.
I don't think anybody believes that its pristine anymore. All we're doing now is hoping for the best, that it hasn't been rotted away to nothing.
Posted By: Mstaedt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:12 PM
The thing that scares me the most is the multiple water lines in the vault. I get the feeling that the water has raised and receded in there a BUNCH over the last 50 years.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:13 PM
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That does not look good.
and can someone tell that lady that she does not need to announce "There she is" anymore.
Well at least it didn't crack in half and drop back into the hole.
Then the lady would have been yelling "There She is.... Ooops... There She goes"
That close up shot on the Unearthing video at the 5:52min mark looks bbbbbbad at full screen.
Looks like small pieces of the fender near the top and then again about 6" above the bumper are...
well, just gone
Might be molding.... not real familar with the model.... in any event. It ain't happy
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:20 PM
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I heard they were gonna do a tribute bike for it, and then bury themselves and make the rest of the world happy.
Posted By: BarryBum
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:22 PM
Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing, with a huge marble sealed box on the lawn of the courthouse, enscripted with all that historic mumbo jumbo. That would have been a constant reminder over the past 50 years, and the risk of water wouldn't have been there at all...... duh!!!
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:23 PM
They're lucky they didn't pop the top on the tomb and find it was completely full of water.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:23 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing, with a huge marble sealed box on the lawn of the courthouse, enscripted with all that historic mumbo jumbo. That would have been a constant reminder over the past 50 years, and the risk of water wouldn't have been there at all...... duh!!!
hindsight is always 20/20
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:24 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing
That wouldn't have been nearly as interesting IMO
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:24 PM
Had to protect it from NUKES! It was safer for it underground.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:25 PM
Barry, the mindste in 1957 was nuclear disaster. We had a "bmb shelter," with canned goods and fresh water and other necessities up until the mid sixties.
The tomb was, in that mindset, the best way to preserve the car.
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:25 PM
What sucks is that I'm heading north this weekend and won't have any internet access and only local TV stations. SO unless they put it on the local news I won't get to see how it turned out until Sunday night.
Posted By: 79powerwagon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:26 PM
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They're lucky they didn't pop the top on the tomb and find it was completely full of water.
If they filled the tank with water and then sealed it shut, other than the soft parts, the car would be quite solid.
Reminder for next time- fill the tank with bacon grease...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:27 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing, with a huge marble sealed box on the lawn of the courthouse, enscripted with all that historic mumbo jumbo. That would have been a constant reminder over the past 50 years, and the risk of water wouldn't have been there at all...... duh!!!
Several people have asked this and the answer is quite simple. This was right in the middle of the Cold War era. Nukes were on everyone's mind and it seems like everyone was building a bomb shelter. They buried the car for that very reason. So it could withstand a nuclear holocaust should it ever happen.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:28 PM
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Are there any pictures around of the crypt after she was removed?
I watched the unveiling from the closed circuit feed at the convention center. I'll admit having the car ready to lift at a specific time turned out pretty nice. After it was lifted and loaded onto the trailer I bolted to see her paraded down the street. With helocopters above, horses, etc. it was a total blast walking beside her with the crowd for two blocks north, west about two blocks, back south and then seeing her backed into the convention center. It was so much fun!
Now back to the quote/question... I went back to see the vault and I wish I did not have to report this... The police would not let us get close and even ordered us back. While ordering us back he said the dump trucks are on the way and they need room. He said the liability was to much... That is just one of the things which has changed the past 50 years. I doubt if they are going to put a plaque which says a car was buried at this site in 1957 and removed in 2007... I think it is sad that ordinary people cannot even get a close look at the empty vault. I am sure the hole is filled by this time.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:28 PM
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Barry, the mindste in 1957 was nuclear disaster. We had a "bmb shelter," with canned goods and fresh water and other necessities up until the mid sixties.
The tomb was, in that mindset, the best way to preserve the car.
Ooops, I was a little slow...
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:28 PM
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What sucks is that I'm heading north this weekend and won't have any internet access and only local TV stations. SO unless they put it on the local news I won't get to see how it turned out until Sunday night.
Yews guts to getcha one of those in-tra-net celluar phone thingys.
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:31 PM
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While ordering us back he said the dump trucks are on the way and they need room. He said the liability was to much... That is just one of the things which has changed the past 50 years. I doubt if they are going to put a plaque which says a car was buried at this site in 1957 and removed in 2007... I think it is sad that ordinary people cannot even get a close look at the empty vault. I am sure the hole is filled by this time.
Talk about CYA,glad they took the car out first.
I know it only makes sense,but I can't help but feel the city may be a little red faced from the whole part about it being UNDER WATER
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:32 PM
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After it was lifted and loaded onto the trailer I bolted to see her paraded down the street. With helocopters above, horses, etc. it was a total blast walking beside her with the crowd for two blocks north, west about two blocks, back south and then seeing her backed into the convention center. It was so much fun!
Here is the question I'm sure a lot will be asking, did you get a chance to peek in the cover???
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:38 PM
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After it was lifted and loaded onto the trailer I bolted to see her paraded down the street. With helocopters above, horses, etc. it was a total blast walking beside her with the crowd for two blocks north, west about two blocks, back south and then seeing her backed into the convention center. It was so much fun!
Here is the question I'm sure a lot will be asking, did you get a chance to peek in the cover???
Enquiring minds want to know... from the video it looked like the pot metal tail light bezel was still intact - not all pitted or anything, and it looked like the rear valence was still all there (better than I expected, actually). The bumper looked like it had rusty peeling chrome...
So, did it look that way in person?? Better? Worse? Aaaaghh! I can't wait!!!
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:40 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing, with a huge marble sealed box on the lawn of the courthouse, enscripted with all that historic mumbo jumbo. That would have been a constant reminder over the past 50 years, and the risk of water wouldn't have been there at all...... duh!!!
the threat of nuclear war back in the ld days made it neccessary to put it underground in a fallout type shelter/bunker.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:41 PM
Besides the left rear view we have all seen since yesterday the only new thing was a gap in the plastic at the left front. While IMO the left rear looks pretty good the bumper at the left front had a lot more black/rust something on it. The chrome while dull all seemed intact. The paint looked scaly, however I did not see any of the cancer type rust bludges like typical rust. I am trying to catch back up with my friend who had the camera to get some of the pictures posted. Walking beside the car, running from one side of the street in front of her to get a look at the other side was the most fun I have had in a long time!
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:46 PM
I found my buddy who gave me his camera. I am going to run to my truck to hopefully find a UBS cord so I can get you guys some pictures of the parade and then close up shots of the exposed parts of the car...
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:47 PM
I predict that a power washer would blow holes in the body
The truth is somewhere between those two predictions
Posted By: nomopar&sad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:47 PM
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here is info on the prowler they burried, this time the capsule is made
out of aluminum, its welded shut, and pressurized. I have a feeling
this one will survive much better then the first.
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431137.html
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from another board I frequent
Posted By: 71TA
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Posted By: 69DodgeCharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:49 PM
"I predict the car will just need a good power washing. Plus all new wiring and all new interior."
That's a bold statement....(Courtesy of Vincent Vega, Pulp Fiction)
Posted By: Mstaedt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:52 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing
That wouldn't have been nearly as interesting IMO
If it's above ground, it may as well be in somebody's garage.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:53 PM
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here is info on the prowler they burried, this time the capsule is made
out of aluminum, its welded shut, and pressurized. I have a feeling
this one will survive much better then the first.
Prowler Tomb from another board I frequent
Link works better like this
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:53 PM
Well I think we all agree that protecting a car for 50 years makes sense. let's protect the car just in case, because in the event there is a nuclear war and we all die, we want to make sure Ms. Belvedere is protected.
Its like dying rich, YOU CANT TAKE IT WITH YOU!!!!!
This was poorly thought and executed, and I am bummed out that it appears as bad as it did.
I just find it funny that lady made a fuss like they were unearthing the ark of the convenant.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:54 PM
not a lot of info here I see
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:54 PM
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Besides the left rear view we have all seen since yesterday the only new thing was a gap in the plastic at the left front. While IMO the left rear looks pretty good the bumper at the left front had a lot more black/rust something on it. The chrome while dull all seemed intact. The paint looked scaly, however I did not see any of the cancer type rust bludges like typical rust. I am trying to catch back up with my friend who had the camera to get some of the pictures posted. Walking beside the car, running from one side of the street in front of her to get a look at the other side was the most fun I have had in a long time!
Belvedere leaving on the trailer Where you at it in this video 73cudaproject.
Posted By: Chassisman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:55 PM
They should have prepared a VIPER and buried it for the next 50 years...already got the hole.....and the way things are going that blast crypty might get it's shot in the next 50...LOL
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:58 PM
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This was poorly thought and executed, and I am bummed out that it appears as bad as it did.
IMO, compared to the BS that typically goes on, the event has been very interesting. I don't feel one bit bummed that the car came out the way it did. To me the whole thing was a great idea. The (possible) loss of the car is nothing compared to the memories people will take away from this.
FWIW, lyrics from "Godzilla" have been running through my head
History shows again and again
How nature points out the folly of men
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 07:58 PM
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:01 PM
Dang I'm going home in a 1/2 hour and all I got is dial up at home.
Evan at 53.3K its not going to be fun trying to watch taped video forget live simulcast.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:02 PM
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The mayor of Tulsa is confident that Boyd will get the car running for the unveiling!!!
don't count it out. I was given a 72 dodge truck back in the mid 90s that had been sitting in the weather for over 20 years. it had 18k original mile on it. the body was falling off with rust. I put a battery in it drained out the bad gas and it fired with no problems and even drove it. still sounded like a brand new motor.
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:05 PM
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:05 PM
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don't count it out. I was given a 72 dodge truck back in the mid 90s that had been sitting in the weather for over 20 years.
You forgot one thing - the truck hadn't been submerged
If that water came up slow and the engine vented, it could've filled the block up to the top of the carb with water. Sure hope Boyd tells his boys to check that before they try sticking a big battery on it because it doesn't want to turn.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:06 PM
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Dang I'm going home in a 1/2 hour and all I got is dial up at home. Evan at 53.3K its not going to be fun trying to watch taped video forget live simulcast.
Maybe it would be a good night to offer to put in some overtime...
Posted By: 71TA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:07 PM
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Hmmm, look at the headline here....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070615/ap_on_re_us/buried_belvedere
"1957 Pontiac unearthed in Oklahoma "
Posted By: 68KillerBee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:08 PM
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:09 PM
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don't count it out. I was given a 72 dodge truck back in the mid 90s that had been sitting in the weather for over 20 years. it had 18k original mile on it. the body was falling off with rust. I put a battery in it drained out the bad gas and it fired with no problems and even drove it. still sounded like a brand new motor.
Going to be a little tougher than that if theres been water and OK mud getting in the cylinder bores. Be stuck fast like an old tractor thats been sitting out in the weather with rain water running down the exhaust pipe for years.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:10 PM
That's because they couldn't spell "Plymouth Belvedere."
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:12 PM
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The mayor of Tulsa is confident that Boyd will get the car running for the unveiling!!!
don't count it out. I was given a 72 dodge truck back in the mid 90s that had been sitting in the weather for over 20 years. it had 18k original mile on it. the body was falling off with rust. I put a battery in it drained out the bad gas and it fired with no problems and even drove it. still sounded like a brand new motor.
But its Boyd we are talkin' about here... No amount of Duane's "magic shiny head oil" is gonna unfreeze a stuck, waterlogged and mud filled engine, or trans, or rear-end or the brakes...
I'm not trying to be negative, in fact, I think the car won't be too bad. But I think even trying to get it running in the next couple hours is plain stupid... They should be focused on giving the car a careful cleaning...
Posted By: Gusteve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:13 PM
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Why did they feel they had to bury it?? Didn't they think of a mosaleum type thing, with a huge marble sealed box on the lawn of the courthouse, enscripted with all that historic mumbo jumbo. That would have been a constant reminder over the past 50 years, and the risk of water wouldn't have been there at all...... duh!!!
Several people have asked this and the answer is quite simple. This was right in the middle of the Cold War era. Nukes were on everyone's mind and it seems like everyone was building a bomb shelter. They buried the car for that very reason. So it could withstand a nuclear holocaust should it ever happen.
Hah - the days of Duck and Cover.
"Lets put in a vault underground so it'll be safe for WWIII and the survivors can dig it up!"
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:14 PM
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They should be focused on giving the car a careful cleaning...
Agreed
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:14 PM
No,no,no,no,...the idea is to NOT have the car cleaned...but to unveil it this evening just as it came out of the ground.
Peel back the plastic...kinda like unwrapping a
Posted By: tallzag
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:15 PM
I hope they save the original air from the tires.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:17 PM
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No,no,no,no,...the idea is to NOT have the car cleaned...but to unveil it this evening just as it came out of the ground.
Peel back the plastic...kinda like unwrapping a
I know what Oklahoma mud looks like, I grew up there, dont need to see more... Who wants to see a car covered in filth?
Just my
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:19 PM
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Who wants to see a car covered in filth?
I think what you really don't want to see is the interior. Yuck.
Posted By: GTSDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:22 PM
What would be cool would be to see them peel back the covers and start washing off the mud and muck right on TV for all the world to see.
I am gonna bet the best part of the car will be the glass.
-Dave
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:23 PM
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Who wants to see a car covered in filth?
I think what you really don't want to see is the interior. Yuck.
I'm sure Boyd brought some "Pine-Tree" air fresheners
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:25 PM
From downtown this morning.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:27 PM
A shaker Belvedere???
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:27 PM
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What would be cool would be to see them peel back the covers and start washing off the mud and muck right on TV for all the world to see.
Posted By: BobAsh
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:32 PM
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A shaker Belvedere???
Must have been extra rare option in 50s ... Imagine how much it is worth today...
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:32 PM
I have a stinkin feeling that the car is gonna get switched and a nice restored/original will be in it's place.
They won't show the car off this weekend, as the keep the tourist money in for the weekend.
Posted By: 70sixpkrt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:32 PM
What time will the live feed be? What channel?
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:33 PM
unless that thing is sitting on some sort of jack stands it appears the tires still have the air in them ... imagine how much those tires would bring on ebarf if they were of 71 vintage
...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:33 PM
Yes, seeing it ...'right there' on a trailer,, all brown... letting us know what a turd it really is...
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:35 PM
I don't think we can make guesses about the cars condition based off of how we see the usual car age. This is really going to be something else entirely as the car would have been exposed to different circumstances, like full immersion, no UV's, and many other items that do not typically come together to age a car.
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:36 PM
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:36 PM
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Well written Hans. If I had the time, I'd be out there. I'm glad however, that through modern technology, I can enjoy the event too.
Enjoy!
Jim
Thank you for the kind words guys! I've met so many nice MoPar folks that it is amazing! If any of you fine moparts members see a guy walking with a silly smile on his face and wearing a black 440 Source t-shirt (Thanks Brandon!) and a black Dodge Sweptline cap that's me. It would be cool to meet some of you that made it here!
Gotta grab a bite to eat now before going to the convention center! Sure wish the car will be as good as possible. And Boyd, keep your hands off of it!
Hans
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:37 PM
Parade
Posted By: MaxPower
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:38 PM
I really didnt think some small news stations had the bandwidth to handle this, I'm surprised their websites still load.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:40 PM
Another of parade
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:42 PM
73Cudaproject, looks like you were walking on the other side of the parade. I was walking in the front on the right all the way to the last turn. Unfortunately I can't upload any pics right now, wasn't planning on buying a computer on the trip, LOL!
Hans
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:43 PM
They should have gotten Geraldo to do the unveiling. Like that safe from the Titanic thing. "And as we open the safe we find - MUD!"
Well, at least it was safe from tornadoes buried down there.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:43 PM
With new area in background...
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Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:50 PM
Hans I jointed the crowd and walked in the front part way on left side and then crossed to the right side and was in the front. I am from Tulsa. Did you see our local silly bicycle Santa Claus? I am leaving work and headed back to the show. I hope to meet you! I have a white t-shirt with In-N-Out Burgers on the front and a hemi orange '69 GTX on the back.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:50 PM
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With new area in background...
Almost like a funeral march.
What is funny is that they already exhumed the dead
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:53 PM
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With new area in background...
Almost like a funeral march.
Yeah pretty close! Like a New Orleans funeral march but without the band. It was the most fun I have ever had at a parade.
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:55 PM
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Hans I jointed the crowd and walked in the front part way on left side and then crossed to the right side and was in the front. I am from Tulsa. Did you see our local silly bicycle Santa Claus? I am leaving work and headed back to the show. I hope to meet you! I have a white t-shirt with In-N-Out Burgers on the front and a hemi orange '69 GTX on the back.
Holy crap you walked right bye me! I was wearing a tan rain coat with '70 Charger Registry T-shirt.
*EDIT* sorry just reread the post you had a white shirt I saw a Black In&Out burger shirt.
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 08:57 PM
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Hans I jointed the crowd and walked in the front part way on left side and then crossed to the right side and was in the front. I am from Tulsa. Did you see our local silly bicycle Santa Claus? I am leaving work and headed back to the show. I hope to meet you! I have a white t-shirt with In-N-Out Burgers on the front and a hemi orange '69 GTX on the back.
That's cool, I'll be I've got one of those shirts myself so I know what to look for! Let's hope for the best, only a couple of hours left!
LOL, Saw the Santa and hide my $, didn't want to see him sing naked
Hans
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:00 PM
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LOL, Saw the Santa and hide my $, didn't want to see him sing naked
maybe he's the cop from yesterday..!!!
I notice he isn't riding a horse...
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:01 PM
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With new area in background...
What a turd!
And look at the rusty time capsul (nugget) in the rear!
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:02 PM
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Hah - the days of Duck and Cover.
"Lets put in a vault underground so it'll be safe for WWIII and the survivors can dig it up!"
Ya right. Like Roaches, Ants & Sharks could use a 57 Plymouth
Posted By: Chassisman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:05 PM
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Hah - the days of Duck and Cover.
"Lets put in a vault underground so it'll be safe for WWIII and the survivors can dig it up!"
Ya right. Like Roaches, Ants & Sharks could use a 57 Plymouth
...Remember the Smokers from the Movie Waterworld?LOL
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:09 PM
Can't help but look at this as much more than just a dirty old rusty car... I mean, when this was put in the ground:
- Chrysler had just started using torsion bars
- They hadn't built a unibody car yet (the Airflows don't count)
- The slant six was still 3 years away
- Push button automatics were futuristic and trendy
- Seat belts were not yet standard equipment... airbags? whassat??
- Richard Petty was just starting his racing career
- Superbird? Daytona? Huh?
- The early Hemi was still offered in new cars
- Fins were in!
What has happened since the last time this car saw the light of day?
- Viet Nam
- The Lunar landing
- The musclecar era came, went, came back again
- The internet
- Funnycars
- The second gen Hemi came and went
- My best buddy lived and died
- NASCAR changed from basically showroom-stock vehicles to something that isn't even remotely related to a showroom-stock vehicle
- Chrysler almost went bankrupt twice, invented the minivan, was bought, sucked dry and sold by a German company....
I could go on and on... just overwhelmed by all the history that has happened while that ol' thing was buried underground.
Posted By: Chassisman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 09:51 PM
Checkout the signed tire!.....if it makes it..Barrett-Jackson gold !!!!
Posted By: GTSDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:01 PM
Try this one.
-Dave
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:01 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Hah - the days of Duck and Cover.
"Lets put in a vault underground so it'll be safe for WWIII and the survivors can dig it up!"
Ya right. Like Roaches, Ants & Sharks could use a 57 Plymouth
You forgot Cher!
Posted By: igozumn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:31 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Hah - the days of Duck and Cover.
"Lets put in a vault underground so it'll be safe for WWIII and the survivors can dig it up!"
Ya right. Like Roaches, Ants & Sharks could use a 57 Plymouth
You forgot Cher!
And Richard Simmons.
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:32 PM
Quote:
I predict that a power washer would blow holes in the body
I predict a power washer would ENLARGE the holes already in the body.
I can't believe how many thought this car had a chance. In a subsurface environment, water is the ultimate infiltrator. That poor car has been swimming off and on for decades.
Posted By: MNobody
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:38 PM
So where can a person see the unveiling, anything besides web feed?
Posted By: calmopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:42 PM
What a joke to get Coddington to have ANYthing to do with this car. He's fine in his own arena, but not at all suitable for working with this piece of nostalgia. They blew it when they snubbed Herb McCandless. Shame.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:45 PM
I think everyone is going to shocked by how well it survived I think they cut the plastic to look in & also when they where rasing it no water was running out from under it on Wed.
anyway
Posted By: igozumn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:46 PM
"I had lunch with Herb this past Wednesday, and he has bowed outta this fiasco.......I don't think that he will oblige any of their efforts to get involved in this mistake in progress of the unveiling."
Just proves Herb is as smart as I thought he was.
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:47 PM
Ok, does the thing get unveiled at 6pm CDT or 7pm CDT?
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:48 PM
Quote:
Quote:
I predict that a power washer would blow holes in the body
I predict a power washer would ENLARGE the holes already in the body.
I can't believe how many thought this car had a chance. In a subsurface environment, water is the ultimate infiltrator. That poor car has been swimming off and on for decades.
Too bad they didn't except that it would fill up with water...
Then put the seats in air tight bags and then just fill the vault to top with peanut oil or baby oil(popular at the time) right off the bat. Not real environment frendly... but who are we kidding it was the 50s... a time when folks still changed there oil and then dumped it in the back yard.
Car would be in much better shape... well maybe not after the 2007 Hazmat crew got done with it.
But it would be worth it...
just to watch tree huggers faint when they pulled it out with oil dripping everywhere
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 10:57 PM
Hind site certainly is 20/20 and clearly there were better ways. However, who's to say if it was in a crypt above ground a semi wouldn't run off the road and crush it, or a tornado hit it? Or, if it were in a warehouse, the warehouse may have burned, etc. In a way, it's almost more exciting that it's been in the water...if it were perfectly dry, we'd be expecting a new but perhaps dusty 57 Plymouth. Now, we don't know what to expect. People store their cars under trees, in garages, in driveways, and in the woods...but NO ONE stores their car in a concrete pit underground with rising and falling water! Who knows what it will look like.
I am very curious as to how the rust/mud got on TOP of the car. The water in there must have been turbulent to lift the rust from below to above so it could settle on the car. If it was calm/motionless water, you would think the sediment and rust would all be at the bottom of the vault. If water was rushing in from above, that could explain how mud settled on top I guess.
Any theories?
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:01 PM
The wraps must be off it by now? I figure an hour and we'll have dozens of photos and videos.
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:04 PM
Quote:
I am very curious as to how the rust/mud got on TOP of the car. The water in there must have been turbulent to lift the rust from below to above so it could settle on the car. If it was calm/motionless water, you would think the sediment and rust would all be at the bottom of the vault. If water was rushing in from above, that could explain how mud settled on top I guess.
Any theories?
I was wondering that myself, it would tend to imply to me many years of repeated drownings of the car. My thoughts are that the only hope for the car would be if it didnt start flooding the vault until more recently in its history, or at least that the bad flooding didn't occur too often. We'll see, its going to be interesting no matter what occurs.
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:07 PM
Dave
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:08 PM
So how man hrs is Tulsa behind the East coast? I thought it was 2 hrs... I am waiting. I wanna see it unveiled soooo bad!!!
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:14 PM
Quote:
I am very curious as to how the rust/mud got on TOP of the car. The water in there must have been turbulent to lift the rust from below to above so it could settle on the car. If it was calm/motionless water, you would think the sediment and rust would all be at the bottom of the vault. If water was rushing in from above, that could explain how mud settled on top I guess.
Any theories?
I believe that the water intrusion was both gentle seepage (porosity of the concrete / small cracks near the bottom) that did not stir up the water a bunch AND somewhat larger flows, including cracks above the vault's current waterline and failure between the lid and the sides which had water in some volume cascading into the standing water and stirring it up. Yes, there's rust, but the red is red mud which is red dirt which is Oklahoma dirt which is found in Tulsa (go figure).
Both the presence of the mud and it's location are indicators that the water intrusion was more than slight, slow seepage.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:15 PM
Quote:
Both the presence of the mud and it's location are indicators that the water intrusion was more than slight, slow seepage.
Or maybe it got knocked in when they pulled the lid off.
Posted By: FastbackJon
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:16 PM
They should have waited until '61 and put in a new Amphicar instead of a Plymouth...
Posted By: 68HemiB
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:17 PM
Quote:
Or maybe it got knocked in when they pulled the lid off.
I think that would have left lumps here and there, not the fairly uniform coating.
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:18 PM
I can't believe this car buried for 50 years is going to be subject to Boyd the first time it see's daylight.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:20 PM
Quote:
I can't believe this car buried for 50 years is going to be subject to Boyd the first time it see's daylight.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:22 PM
Quote:
Dave
So, have we come up with an working alternatives for a live feed?
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:23 PM
I've not found one. Supposedly
www.oklatravelnet.com has it, but I can't find it on their site. Nor can I find it at
www.kotv.com
Posted By: MNobody
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:27 PM
Quote:
I've not found one. Supposedly www.oklatravelnet.com has it, but I can't find it on their site. Nor can I find it at www.kotv.com
\
Me either
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:29 PM
Crews Perform Mini-Lift Of Buried Belvedere
KOTV - 6/14/2007 4:09 PM - Updated 6/14/2007 10:12 PM
Tulsarama organizers hold a practice unearthing for Tulsa’s buried car. Crane crews had a dry run of lifting the wet car on Thursday. News On 6 anchor Terry Hood reports crews made sure the rigging on the car was secure before Friday’s unearthing. Plus, lifting the car out of the vault gave it a chance to drain.
Don't tell the team from Taylor Crane and Rigging they're a day early. They set up the heavy equipment downtown just like it was the Belvedere's big day.
Water was always a worry for them, metal support skids were buried with the car, but weren't wrapped or sealed like the Belvedere. Those beams may be the source of most of rust in the waterlogged vault, and that's a relief to everyone but Jim Taylor. His guys brought in new beams to take some of the pressure off.
"We actually have a dual-lifting system, or two separate systems, in case one fails our new system will hold it," said Jim Taylor Jr. of Taylor Crane and Rigging.
With failsafes in place, the crane crew was ready for a practice lift. Many gathered around the vault to see the Belvedere rise again, and everyone held their breath that the rigging would hold. Most expected to see the car raised a few inches, but crews lifted it ten feet giving the water-logged floorboards a chance to drain. Crews say getting the car out of the rusty, muddy vault gave everyone new hope.
"It looked better today than it did yesterday for some reason,” said Taylor. “I was down in there myself and it was muddy, but it looks better today."
Organizers say they'll be in the clear if Friday’s lift goes as well as Thursday’s practice one did.
While the car was up in the air it gave people a chance to inspect the damage 50 years underwater could do. Hot rod builder Boyd Coddington from cable's “American Hot Rod” came to Tulsa to take a look. He will get a chance to clean up the car between the Friday unearthing at noon, and our live special Friday night at 7.
How well did the Belvedere and the memorabilia buried with it survive underground for half a century? Find out on Friday, June 15th, at 7 p.m. on the News On 6. You can also see live streaming video of the unveiling on kotv.com.
Watch the video: Crews Perform Practice Lift Of Tulsa's Belvedere
Posted By: maxie
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:30 PM
I like the video feed and the guy keeps saying
you are not seeing rust on the car, but a protective coating.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:31 PM
Quote:
Crews Perform Mini-Lift Of Buried Belvedere
KOTV - 6/14/2007 4:09 PM - Updated 6/14/2007 10:12 PM
Tulsarama organizers hold a practice unearthing for Tulsa’s buried car. Crane crews had a dry run of lifting the wet car on Thursday. News On 6 anchor Terry Hood reports crews made sure the rigging on the car was secure before Friday’s unearthing. Plus, lifting the car out of the vault gave it a chance to drain.
Don't tell the team from Taylor Crane and Rigging they're a day early. They set up the heavy equipment downtown just like it was the Belvedere's big day.
Water was always a worry for them, metal support skids were buried with the car, but weren't wrapped or sealed like the Belvedere. Those beams may be the source of most of rust in the waterlogged vault, and that's a relief to everyone but Jim Taylor. His guys brought in new beams to take some of the pressure off.
"We actually have a dual-lifting system, or two separate systems, in case one fails our new system will hold it," said Jim Taylor Jr. of Taylor Crane and Rigging.
With failsafes in place, the crane crew was ready for a practice lift. Many gathered around the vault to see the Belvedere rise again, and everyone held their breath that the rigging would hold. Most expected to see the car raised a few inches, but crews lifted it ten feet giving the water-logged floorboards a chance to drain. Crews say getting the car out of the rusty, muddy vault gave everyone new hope.
"It looked better today than it did yesterday for some reason,” said Taylor. “I was down in there myself and it was muddy, but it looks better today."
Organizers say they'll be in the clear if Friday’s lift goes as well as Thursday’s practice one did.
While the car was up in the air it gave people a chance to inspect the damage 50 years underwater could do. Hot rod builder Boyd Coddington from cable's “American Hot Rod” came to Tulsa to take a look. He will get a chance to clean up the car between the Friday unearthing at noon, and our live special Friday night at 7.
How well did the Belvedere and the memorabilia buried with it survive underground for half a century? Find out on Friday, June 15th, at 7 p.m. on the News On 6. You can also see live streaming video of the unveiling on kotv.com.
Watch the video: Crews Perform Practice Lift Of Tulsa's Belvedere
another 27 minutes to go apparently....
Posted By: monoptn
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:32 PM
LOL, we'll be seeing that description on ebay soon: "This Mopar is not rusty - what you are seeing is a protective coating."
Posted By: 1967 GTX \'vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:43 PM
Who want to bet that tv station's crappy server crashes?
Posted By: 70Challengerse
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:43 PM
I can't believe that it was not uncovered,after 50 years,what a joke , and going to Boyd...
Doesn't anyone have better pics?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:46 PM
Quote:
Who want to bet that tv station's crappy server crashes?
Now why, being from IOWA, would you assume one of Tulsa's big 3 television stations to have a crappy server? Or that it would fail? Bandwidth has been used at a voracious rate today, with the simulcast at noon, but it has done fairly well, I think, all things considered.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:46 PM
Quote:
Who want to bet that tv station's crappy server crashes?
Who wants to bet its already crashed?
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:50 PM
try this running now maybe for a while
http://kotv.com/buriedcar/live.html
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:51 PM
Quote:
try this running now maybe for a while
http://kotv.com/buriedcar/live.html
"Streaming of our broadcast of the Unveiling Ceremony will begin at 7:00pm Central Time."
Posted By: 1967 GTX \'vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:54 PM
Well I'm really from Nebraska! Go Huskers. Na, it was just a poke ot you Okies! Just funning ya!
Posted By: ECS
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:55 PM
Quote:
I can't believe this car buried for 50 years is going to be subject to Boyd the first time it see's daylight.
This entire ordeal has to be a bitter sweet experience for many people. The original intent in 1957 was to bury this vehicle with high hopes of exhuming a pristine example of a 50 year old time capsule. That is probably far from the reality that the unavailing will disclose.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:56 PM
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:58 PM
Quote:
I can't believe this car buried for 50 years is going to be subject to Boyd the first time it see's daylight.
And for the first time in history a car will talk.
"put me back put me back!"
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:58 PM
Quote:
Quote:
I can't believe this car buried for 50 years is going to be subject to Boyd the first time it see's daylight.
This entire ordeal has to be a bitter sweet experience for many people. The original intent in 1957 was to bury this vehicle with high hopes of exhuming a pristine example of a 50 year old time capsule. That is probably far from the reality that the unavailing will disclose. In this day and time of reality TV, I worry that this scenario might be manipulated to SOMEONE’S desired outcome. I find it highly suspect that of all the automotive specialists in the world, Boyd Coddington was the choice to oversee the course of events. Don’t be shocked if his role is more premeditated that just happenstance. I would not be surprised if during the unavailing ceremony, Boyd offers to restore this historic vehicle for the new owner. It would be a terrible injustice if this vehicle ends up a customized relic, via his national restoration show.
that thought just made me puke in my mouth...
ITS ON!!!!!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/15/07 11:59 PM
OF COURSE it's sketchy!
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:00 AM
Is the video working for anybody?
Posted By: MarkZ
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:00 AM
Mmmm yup... They don't have the bandwidth. The live feed keeps skipping.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:00 AM
I had video, no sound, then all at once they started playing some hoe-down music YEE-HAW!
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:01 AM
I have video!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:01 AM
Quote:
Mmmm yup... They don't have the bandwidth. The live feed keeps skipping.
THEY HAD 7 HOURS TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!
another disappointment
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:01 AM
working OK here <knocks on wood>
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:02 AM
Things are working for me, but good god the guy and girl hosting it are tools!
Edit - things just went choppy, in fact, the picture froze but the audio works.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:04 AM
When does "Bad to the Bone" start playing??
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:05 AM
Vid is working fine for me, but I don't really care how they made they car cover.....
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:05 AM
Someone describe it as soon as you can...remember us dial up saps!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:06 AM
Quote:
Vid is working fine for me, but I don't really care how they made they car cover.....
LMAO!!!!
Posted By: 71autoxr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:06 AM
Boyd had 12 or so hours with the car.....I am afraid it will have 22" one off rims, and a 6 tone paint job, air bags, and a chrysler crate motor
Posted By: dustergirl340
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:06 AM
oooooooooo they are gonna drag it out as long as they can!! now Boyd is up there.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:07 AM
Hah!! They introduced Boyd and nobody aplauded.
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:09 AM
Quote:
Boyd had 12 or so hours with the car.....I am afraid it will have 22" one off rims, and a 6 tone paint job, air bags, and a chrysler crate motor
Dont you mean a Chevy remaned 350 ?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:10 AM
rear end is pretty much on the ground, looks like the springs punched up through the trunk floor
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:10 AM
Really muddy, but it doesn't look that bad really...
Posted By: 71autoxr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:10 AM
the bags were not water proof and the car - while not appearing rusty is quite dirty and as Boyd said - "the motor is rusty"
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:10 AM
SSSSHHHHHHHH
How about someone with a feed give us play by play?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:10 AM
SHE'S BEAUTIFUL!!!!!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:11 AM
Boyd is such a tool!
introducing his team, ITS NOT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SHOW!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:12 AM
I knew Coddington would throw up his hands...
I am amazed the car held up like it did, however. Very nice!!
Still 2-tone!!
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:12 AM
50 years in the ground and it comes to this. Poor planning and Boyd Coddington. How sad.
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:13 AM
Quote:
Boyd is such a tool!
introducing his team, ITS NOT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SHOW!
Amen what a moron
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:13 AM
Quote:
I knew Coddington would throw up his hands...
I am amazed the car held up like it did, however. Very nice!!
Still 2-tone!!
MORE!!! Keep giving us details!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:14 AM
She'll be open after the commercial...
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 12:14 AM
Well, at least Coddington didn't try to SHAMELESSLY plug his show.
He never tried to SHAMELESSLY plug his shop either.
What a mistake to have a Coddington connection.
Egads.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:14 AM
they went to commercial just when they started opening the hood
said they are going to open the doors and trunk too
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:14 AM
I have to admit, it is in better shape than I thought it would be.
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:14 AM
I don't care what that knucklehead Boyd says about the rust, that car still has a beautiful stance to her.
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Quote:
SSSSHHHHHHHH
How about someone with a feed give us play by play?
Just now where they asked Boyd what he saw, he said "a lot of rust"
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Looks good enough to send to Barrett-Jackson. The original air was gone out of the tires though so that's a few bucks off.
That Oklahoma red clay makes for a decent preservative.
They were going to open the hood and trunk but went to commercial.
Nick.
Posted By: new bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Oh, c'mon you guys. Boyd seems to be on good behavior. Why shouldn't he introduce and thank his team?
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Its a loss.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Quote:
that car still has a beautiful stance to her.
the rear bumper's on the ground
Posted By: Sinister68
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Quote:
I don't care what that knucklehead Boyd says about the rust, that car still has a beautiful stance to her.
Posted By: 71autoxr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:15 AM
Quote:
SSSSHHHHHHHH
How about someone with a feed give us play by play?
i do have the live feed. they unveiled it it has the outline of a 57 plymouth belvedere, the tires have air in them and the crew - boyds and some from a local college peeled the plastic off of it. Boyd has said that the motor is too rusty to get running and the car is rusty. the live feed is maybe 4"x 3" on my monitor and most of the video has been from a distance...i guess to not show the details and depth of damage
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:16 AM
It's hard to tell how much rust there is because the car is still so dirty.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:16 AM
My opinion. It's junk. The rear bumper is practically on the ground. The body may not look bad but the underside is toast, i'd put money on it. And yes, Boyd is only involved for the attention. If he mentions his show 1 more time my head will probably explode.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:17 AM
The car doesn't look that bad.
The tires are holding air ( although they did air them back up ). You can still tell the car is two-tone. The rear is sagging, but its not a uni-body so I don't know what that means...
Didn't see any rust-through, the car is still filthy. Boyd and his goons got the hood open without breaking it.
Oh, and of course, a shameless plug by Boyd for his show....
Posted By: Day2Runner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:18 AM
yeap them okies have never been to smart
there horses live in multi million dollar barns
while they live in a tar paper shack
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:18 AM
The guy just cracked open a beer out of the trunk and chugged it!
just kidding
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:19 AM
They just opened the trunk. Obviously the hinges haven't rusted away.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:20 AM
Man this is a long thread.
Posted By: MidPenMopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:20 AM
Quote:
The guy just cracked open a beer out of the trunk and chugged it!
Sounds like a good idea to me! Waste not want not!
Posted By: chargerron69
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:21 AM
this internet feed and I have highspeed cable. Is it on tv anywhere
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:21 AM
Can't get the link to open; anyone with pix yet?
Posted By: idrivevintage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:22 AM
Help! I still haven't seen it..........all I get is sound and no video. Anyone able to post a picture??
I hate dialup
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:23 AM
This is the most unorganized redneck production I've ever seen. There, I said it. You had this much freaking time to do something big and this is the result.
Posted By: MI_Custumz
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:23 AM
How did they get the window down without opening the door? Did Boyd and his goons damage the inside of the door somehow by pushing down on it?
Posted By: 71autoxr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:24 AM
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This is the most unorganized redneck production I've ever seen. There, I said it. You had this much freaking time to do something big and this is the result.
EASY DUDE. they only had 50 years!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:25 AM
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How did they get the window down without opening the door? Did Boyd and his goons damage the inside of the door somehow by pushing down on it?
They looked inside and found Foose wiring up a 2000 watt kenwood stereo system with 15" subwoofers.
Just kidding.
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:25 AM
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This is the most unorganized redneck production I've ever seen. There, I said it. You had this much freaking time to do something big and this is the result.
No kidding.
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:25 AM
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How did they get the window down without opening the door? Did Boyd and his goons damage the inside of the door somehow by pushing down on it?
I was wondering the same thing...
Posted By: maxie
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:25 AM
this is more important than all the paris stuff that was on tv.
Posted By: 1967 GTX \'vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:26 AM
I quit watching. That woman ruined the whole thing with her stupid talk.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:27 AM
It looked like some guy in a t-shirt and jeans was taking pics of the under hood - let's hope it was Diego
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:27 AM
still haven't seen an up close shot of the engine
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:28 AM
Anyone else think the gu running the saw is gonna lose an appendage? Yikes!
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:28 AM
Inside the time capsule is dry, they should've built one around the car
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:29 AM
How long until it shows up on carsinbarns.com.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:29 AM
carsinvaults.com
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:29 AM
The old guy is annoying....
Posted By: idrivevintage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:29 AM
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:30 AM
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DO I HEAR SAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was for the time capsule.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:30 AM
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The old guy is annoying....
He is worse than the woman!!!!
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:31 AM
Wow...the capsule is perfect...no water got in it.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:31 AM
They should have put the car in the same kind of can that they put the other stuff in.
I'm sure glad they're using approved archival methods of opening historical material from a time capsule. Good thing they're not excavating an Egyptian tomb or something really important.
Posted By: idrivevintage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:31 AM
Pictures Pleeeeeeeeeeeease
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:32 AM
Something that old and no one thought to bring a can of PB Blaster for the doors and hinges and such.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:32 AM
At least the Coddington gong show seems to have gone.
I would be more interested if they would wash the car down a bit and show more of the CAR.
It's a "parent's commitee" type of unveiling. I wanna see a CAR GUY unveiling.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:33 AM
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Pictures Pleeeeeeeeeeeease
I tried capturing pictures from the feed but it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:33 AM
I was worried that they might drop that flag on nation wide live vid... thank goodness they didnt.
However they are just digging through that stuff so fast, i think something is going to be damaged.
And I agree, not the best planned event...
No micro-film yet... Im betting its in the glovebox, and toast
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:34 AM
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The old guy is annoying....
He is worse than the woman!!!!
I'm done watching. The two of them are too painful. They sounded like morons when they raised the car, i gave them another chance and they proved that they are, indeed, morons.
I'll wait for some pics.
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:35 AM
Note to self.
When burrying car weld it in a steel tube, don't put in concrete vault.
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:35 AM
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They should have put the car in the same kind of can that they put the other stuff in.
I'm sure glad they're using approved archival methods of opening historical material from a time capsule. Good thing they're not excavating an Egyptian tomb or something really important.
Posted By: mk_
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:35 AM
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I'm sure glad they're using approved archival methods of opening historical material from a time capsule. Good thing they're not excavating an Egyptian tomb or something really important.
no kidding
Posted By: cdwmotorsports
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:35 AM
Commercials suck
Posted By: MI_Custumz
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:36 AM
Geez, how long before the winner announces they are sticking it on ebay.
Posted By: 1967 GTX \'vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:36 AM
Here, let's display this wonderful rag, opps, I mean flag for all to see, oh, is it backwards? Nevermind, wad it up and sit it on the table.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:37 AM
Some of you guys should try to remember that it's about more than just the car to the city of Tulsa. There is some pretty cool stuff in that time capsule and it all survived. Alotta this is city and state history, not just the car.
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:37 AM
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I was worried that they might drop that flag on nation wide live vid... thank goodness they didnt.
You and me both....although I wonder how many people even know the American flag should never touch the ground.
Posted By: cdwmotorsports
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:37 AM
I don't think that has been debated. I concur the stuff in the tube is cool as is the car.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:38 AM
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Commercials suck
yeah but it pumps up the coffers!!!! You don't think their getting Premium $$$ for this time do you!!!! Nah that's not 1957 American values.
yeah RIGHT!!!!!
Tim
Posted By: hemi_doug
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:39 AM
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I was worried that they might drop that flag on nation wide live vid... thank goodness they didnt.
You and me both....although I wonder how many people even know the American flag should never touch the ground.
A lot of the ones that stuck them all over their cars after 9-11. Most of the ended up scatered all over the highway.
Posted By: Quicksilver440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:39 AM
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Mmmm yup... They don't have the bandwidth. The live feed keeps skipping.
THEY HAD 7 HOURS TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!
another disappointment
It worked perfect for me...not a single skip or anything except the voices were not quite in sync at the very beginning.
Posted By: 1967 GTX \'vert
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:39 AM
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Some of you guys should try to remember that it's about more than just the car to the city of Tulsa. There is some pretty cool stuff in that time capsule and it all survived. Alotta this is city and state history, not just the car.
Really? Then maybe they should be handling it in a better manner?
Posted By: idrivevintage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:39 AM
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:39 AM
Perfect candidate for a back-half !!!!!!!
Posted By: MI_Custumz
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:41 AM
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Pics anyone?
I wanna see the car
Tried to do a screen shot, but it didn't work.
Posted By: hemi_doug
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:41 AM
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Commercials suck
It's almost as bad as watching BJ.
Posted By: dustergirl340
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:41 AM
a bad pic I took off the feed....best I could get
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:41 AM
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Pictures Pleeeeeeeeeeeease
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:42 AM
Quote:
Quote:
Some of you guys should try to remember that it's about more than just the car to the city of Tulsa. There is some pretty cool stuff in that time capsule and it all survived. Alotta this is city and state history, not just the car.
Really? Then maybe they should be handling it in a better manner?
My post was a general statement and not directed at anyone in particular. Good grief, settle down.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:42 AM
They mentioned that maybe the historical society should keep the car. I bet they ditched the microfilm so they wouldn't have to give it away.
<insert your conspiracy theory here>
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:43 AM
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Perfect candidate for a back-half !!!!!!!
BACK HALF???? What about a ZIEBART commercial??? For those of you that don't know, Zeibart is a rust proofing comapny.
OR what about REDI STRIP???? let's dunk it and see what comes up LMAO
Tim
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:44 AM
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They mentioned that maybe the historical society should keep the car. I bet they ditched the microfilm so they wouldn't have to give it away.
<insert your conspiracy theory here>
They have all the postcards that have the info from the people that guessed the population.
Posted By: cdwmotorsports
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:47 AM
How about the chrome buffing out
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:47 AM
I say they hang the two hosting the show and the neilsen ratings will SOAR.
That car will go on Ebay IF they find the winner. It was supposed to go to the next of kin if the winner couldn't claim. Toss the stinky lady's ideas RIGHT out the window.
I would rather see the car go to Eddie, and do the elusive 7.99
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:47 AM
What would the point be? It's a rusted out '57 Plymouth. The car needs a good cleaning, you can't even tell what shape it's really in.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:47 AM
It'll buff out.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:47 AM
"Look at the chrome Boyd"
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:48 AM
hmmmm, why did the back sag like that? The front end seems mostly intact, they just uncovered some chrome on the front bumper and they said it was amazing.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:48 AM
I'm not sure I'd want the turd. Maybe they should have parked in in New Orleans in a swamp with the gators. Might'a stood a better chance
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:48 AM
No, looks like they have the original postcards with the entrants' guesses.
My theory on Coddington as a choice of, well, whatever... Someone said "get that car guy who ISN'T a fraud and who DIDN'T bone a bunch of investors when he filed for bankruptcy!"
And obviously whoever was being told misunderstood what was said.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:48 AM
The interior is toast
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:48 AM
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"Look at the chrome Boyd"
*removes emblems, shaves door handles and inserts 350/350*
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:49 AM
Dang, I've never seen a bigger bunch of know it alls than what I'm seeing on this thread right now.
What you are looking at is Americana at its finest. Yet, you complain about the mannerisms of the people doing the show.
Thankfully, Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types in the north.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:50 AM
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I say they hang the two hosting the show and the neilsen ratings will SOAR.
That car will go on Ebay IF they find the winner. It was supposed to go to the next of kin if the winner couldn't claim. Toss the stinky lady's ideas RIGHT out the window.
I would rather see the car go to Eddie, and do the elusive 7.99
I believe the reason they chose these two people is because they are local personalties who were present when the car was buried. I think that's it anyways.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:50 AM
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"Look at the chrome Boyd"
I bet even Boyd is thinking "What a couple of freaking idiots. I'm glad I'm not THAT annoying!"
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:50 AM
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Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types
Excellent point
Posted By: cdwmotorsports
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:52 AM
Very cool eventhough the car is not perfect
Posted By: GTSfanatic
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:52 AM
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I'm not sure I'd want the turd. Maybe they should have parked in in New Orleans in a swamp with the gators. Might'a stood a better chance
Turd....That thing looks better than half of the so-called restos up here in the N.E
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:52 AM
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Dang, I've never seen a bigger bunch of know it alls than what I'm seeing on this thread right now.
What you are looking at is Americana at its finest. Yet, you complain about the mannerisms of the people doing the show.
Thankfully, Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types in the north.
If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
Somebody needs to get that lady off the stage! Where is Elvis when you need him?
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:52 AM
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:53 AM
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Dang, I've never seen a bigger bunch of know it alls than what I'm seeing on this thread right now.
What you are looking at is Americana at its finest. Yet, you complain about the mannerisms of the people doing the show.
Thankfully, Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types in the north.
Don't get me wrong, it's neat to see their take on it. However it's also a REALLY BIG deal so you would have thought that it would have been planned out just a little bit better. It seems like mass chaos on stage with little control over who is doing what.
Posted By: wldgtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:54 AM
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Dang, I've never seen a bigger bunch of know it alls than what I'm seeing on this thread right now.
What you are looking at is Americana at its finest. Yet, you complain about the mannerisms of the people doing the show.
Thankfully, Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types in the north.
You are mistaking funny loose comments as sarcasm. I think the unearthing a Plymouth is awesome! The contents are equally awesome, and the fact they actually figured out how to preserve something is worth noting. But some of us are taking a light hearted approach to all of this... not meant to offend anyone.
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:54 AM
I STILL wish that show the car. Not a single engine shot yet and only a glimpse of the interior.
Posted By: chrisf
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:54 AM
didnt those cars sit like that from the factory?
i love 57-9 mopars. never have been able to find any around here that werent rotten to the roof.
i dont car what happens to it as long as boyd doesnt get it.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:55 AM
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:56 AM
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Quote:
Dang, I've never seen a bigger bunch of know it alls than what I'm seeing on this thread right now.
What you are looking at is Americana at its finest. Yet, you complain about the mannerisms of the people doing the show.
Thankfully, Oklahomans aren't anything like you sophisticated types in the north.
Don't get me wrong, it's neat to see there take on it. However it's also a REALLY BIG deal so you would have thought that it would have been planned out just a little bit better. It seems like mass chaos on stage with little control over who is doing what.
The car was protected as well as it could be in 1957.
I didn't want the unveiling to be a scripted event.
What we saw was spontaneous reaction. That's the best.
As far as the Canuck who said we can keep Oklahoma, thank you, we will.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:57 AM
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didnt those cars sit like that from the factory?
Not really, see the pics of the car before it went in the hole.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:57 AM
Could be worse.
My dad is a TV repairman, he has a killer set of tools, we can fix it!
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
Well that was special...
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
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Could be worse.
My dad is a TV repairman, he has a killer set of tools, we can fix it!
Hahaha
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
I wouldn't take a wire brush to it, but it definitely needs a cleaning.
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
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Could be worse.
My dad is a TV repairman, he has a killer set of tools, we can fix it!
LOL
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
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Could be worse.
My dad is a TV repairman, he has a killer set of tools, we can fix it!
I knew that would make it in there sometime.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:58 AM
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:00 AM
It looks like the thing is coated in red clay. Or is that rust? If it is red clay it might as well have been ziebarted...anyone that ever tried to get that mess off an under carriage after being there for 30 years knows what I mean!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:00 AM
That car's related to Christine, so I'm sure it will be perfect by morning, then she might plow right over Boyd & the crew on its way to E-bay.
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:00 AM
Ooooo yeah the back end not so much, leaf spring mounts rust through the mount points and spill into the trunk maybe?
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:00 AM
I'm gonna guess that this is the fastest growing post on Moparts ever. Nver seen one take off like this that wasn't locked LMAO and I've been around here for a long time.
An old oklahoma (OK country song, comes to mind)
Turn out the lights, The party's over, they say that all-- good things must end DAH Ddah dah-----
Tim
Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:01 AM
OK, who here really thought the car was going to survive in pristine condition?
If you know anything about concrete, you know it does not hold back water, no matter how you coat it.
IMHO, the car survived in better condition than I ever thought it would. Even though she is covered with 50 years of mud, she is still beautiful.
And, I enjoyed the folksy people who emceed at the unveiling.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:01 AM
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I wouldn't take a wire brush to it, but it definitely needs a cleaning.
I would wash it over and over again, not disturbing the host. See what is under the mud a sediment.
The trunk is gone, I'm sure the floors are gone, but the car doesn't seem as bad as I thought it could have been. I want to see the car!!!!
Posted By: theraif
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:02 AM
oh a set of air jacker shocks and it be good as new
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:02 AM
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:03 AM
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And, I enjoyed the folksy people who emceed at the unveiling.
NOBODY SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:03 AM
I'm impressed it still even looks like a '57 Plymouth.
As for Boyd promoting his shop, the old guy MC'ing the thing told Boyd to put a plug in at one point.
With all those people on the stage, I wonder how many made off with a free souviner?
Enjoyed it for the history, a bit disappointed with the show.
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:04 AM
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I wouldn't take a wire brush to it, but it definitely needs a cleaning.
I would wash it over and over again, not disturbing the host. See what is under the mud a sediment.
The trunk is gone, I'm sure the floors are gone, but the car doesn't seem as bad as I thought it could have been. I want to see the car!!!!
Did I understand the hosts say the car was going to the local car show ?
I'd be afraid to even trailer it, not knowing if the thing would pull apart or have the wheels / axles go right thru the rest of the car
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:04 AM
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oh a set of air jacker shocks and it be good as new
LMAO
THAT'S FUNNY
Tim
Posted By: RangerDan440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:04 AM
looks better than most of the cars Ive dragged home
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:05 AM
Yeah, the dang car will end up in a meuseum somewhere. Looks like it could be saved, damm a good cleaning might reveal a pretty nice body. 50 freeakin years under water , dang.
The prowler they buried is in a welded tube, too bad they did not do that here.
You guys that are there take some pictures of the undercarriage, I still don't understand why the back sagged and not the front.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:05 AM
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As for Boyd promoting his shop, the old guy MC'ing the thing told Boyd to put a plug in at one point.
Seriously? I missed that! I woulda paid money to see that.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:06 AM
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You guys that are there take some pictures of the undercarriage, I still don't understand why the back sagged and not the front.
Rear of the springs are probably sitting up in the trunk, that would be my guess?
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:06 AM
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:07 AM
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looks better than most of the cars Ive dragged home
YOU need help
SEE DR PHIL.COM
LMAO
TIm
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:08 AM
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As for Boyd promoting his shop, the old guy MC'ing the thing told Boyd to put a plug in at one point.
Seriously? I missed that! I woulda paid money to see that.
Well, Boyd's show. Shop, show, same difference? MC told Boyd to tell people what the name of his show was and what channel it was on.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:08 AM
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Okies are Okies and we ain't just real sofistacated but we all are celybraitin' our hunderth birthday this year and you all are invited to partay with us'ns if'n ya want toos...Yee Bob!
Hah!!!
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:09 AM
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As for Boyd promoting his shop, the old guy MC'ing the thing told Boyd to put a plug in at one point.
Seriously? I missed that! I woulda paid money to see that.
Well, Boyd's show. Shop, show, same difference? MC told Boyd to tell people what the name of his show was and what channel it was on.
Ooohhhh, i misunderstood your post. I thought they told him to shut up.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:09 AM
I just had a beer for y'all.
Posted By: Sinister68
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:10 AM
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That car's related to Christine, so I'm sure it will be perfect by morning, then she might plow right over Boyd & the crew on its way to E-bay.
The 'run down' of Boyd... er, Buddy.
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:10 AM
Well Boyd did shock me and say she needs to stay just like she is, no restoration (butchering).
I think he was scared.
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:11 AM
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You guys that are there take some pictures of the undercarriage, I still don't understand why the back sagged and not the front.
Rear of the springs are probably sitting up in the trunk, that would be my guess?
I'm not well versed in the 50's era cars, but they had REAL frames then didnt they? I wouldnt think the springs could get in the trunk on these cars like with a unibody car. My guess is that alot of mud and rust settled in the trunk and qrtrs and rear floorboards. That would add alot of weight I would think.
Posted By: superb70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:12 AM
The car is not nearly as bad as you would think it would be for being under water for so long.
I'm am sure some of you guys cars were in worse shape before you restored them!
Some of you guys kill me with your comments though, You sound as this event should of been held exclusivly for CAR people!
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:13 AM
I liked the show, much better than an antiseptic over-rehearsed wine and cheese event. And I was actually kind of surprised by Boyd, of all peoople I didn't figure on him being the one to say the car should stay exactly as is and not mess with it... and yeah he plugged his show but only after being prodded to by the hosts.
Now the big questions, is it restorable and if so should it be restored? I'm more partial to them just cleaning it up and then doing something to preserve whats left of it on display in a museum somewhere.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:14 AM
That would be up to the new owner, wouldn't it?
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:15 AM
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You guys that are there take some pictures of the undercarriage, I still don't understand why the back sagged and not the front.
Rear of the springs are probably sitting up in the trunk, that would be my guess?
I'm not well versed in the 50's era cars, but they had REAL frames then didnt they? I wouldnt think the springs could get in the trunk on these cars like with a unibody car. My guess is that alot of mud and rust settled in the trunk and qrtrs and rear floorboards. That would add alot of weight I would think.
I *think* unibody started in 1960.
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:17 AM
Any video of the unveiling yet? I assume the live feed is over by now.
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:18 AM
Cue Celine Dion:
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:18 AM
Hey i'm all for this. i think it's really cool in fact. The time capsule, the car it was a really good idea.
I didn't expect the car to be in that good of condition actually. I think it's a really cool piece of history now.
But, if you're going to do something like this at least get someone to M.C. it that has M.C.'d before and can speak to a very large audience, otherwise you'll look foolish. After all this is a big deal.
And if you're going to bring someone to help, like Boyd, get someone that looks like they at least want to be there, not just there for the sake of good P.R.
All in all though it think the whole thing was pretty neat.
And for the record, i don't care where someone is from.
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:19 AM
If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:20 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
Hahaha
Give those two a gonch pull, and I'll give you a colorful apology.
I want photographic PROOF of the screamer though.
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:21 AM
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Posted By: 340727dart
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:22 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
He's from Canada and making fun of Oklahomans. Now that's funny.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:22 AM
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Is the pic on the right from the Belvedere, or the Titanic?
What the heck is that??
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:23 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
He's from Canada and making fun of Oklahomans. Now that's funny.
Hahaha!!!!!!!!!
We woulda just dropped a car in a lake, and tried fishing it out in 50 years. So I guess you're one up on us?
We woulda had WAYYYY better emcees though.
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:23 AM
VIDEO??? VIDEO???? Bueller???? Bueller???
Posted By: Chassisman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:23 AM
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Is the pic on the right from the Belvedere, or the Titanic?
What the heck is that??
Belvedere...Titanic of the Highways......yes it's from the ship....LOL
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:24 AM
I actually got to see the feed at home, so I want to say thanks to the TV station for getting their act together. The raising (from work) was jammed up. I did miss the first part, but even though the hosts weren't dry pros, it went okay. I've been to many car shows and drag races where the MCs have done a lot worse. I thought the capsule stuff got grabbed and hustled off quick, but a couple long shots showed long tables set up to hold everything.
CHEERS to all Tulsans and Okies!
This has been a great ride!
My biggest hope is that they clean it carefully, and that whoever gets it displays it for all to see.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:25 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
He's from Canada and making fun of Oklahomans. Now that's funny.
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:25 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
Hahaha
Give those two a gonch pull, and I'll give you a colorful apology.
I want photographic PROOF of the screamer though.
We go commando so what do I do now???
Posted By: Grassosgarage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:25 AM
Posted By: moparx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:26 AM
567456 beers, 35564 cans of "scrubbing bubbles", 8754 pine trees for the interior & some "new fangled no-lead" gas and it will be brand new !
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:26 AM
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If that's two typical "Oklahomans", you can KEEP Oklahoma.
That hurt say you're sorry....
Hahaha
Give those two a gonch pull, and I'll give you a colorful apology.
I want photographic PROOF of the screamer though.
We go commando so what do I do now???
ACKH!!!!!!!
OK OK! I TAKE IT BACK!!!!!
No pictures. No pictures.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:27 AM
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Cue Celine Dion:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
I never even saw the "cue Celine Dion", and I was looking at THAT picture too, wondering what the heck it was.
Posted By: moparx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:28 AM
crazy, you ain't THAT bad [are ya?
]
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:28 AM
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crazy, you ain't THAT bad [are ya? ]
Nah.
Just crazy!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:29 AM
The male MC was John Ehrling, a radio personality from back in the day. The woman was the daughter - as I understand it - of the original Tulsorama, circa 1957 - the promoter, that is...
I thought they did a pretty good job, being as there was no real script - just a lot of anticipation and glee with the findings.
This event WAS about more than just the car.
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:29 AM
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We woulda had WAYYYY better emcees though.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:30 AM
anymore pics?
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:31 AM
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anymore pics?
OR Video!!!!!!!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:31 AM
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We woulda had WAYYYY better emcees though.
Hahaha
That's two of our intellectual socialites, we wouldn't of sacrificed our GOOD talent for a show of ANY kind...
Eh?
(Nice stubby bottle BTW!)
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:32 AM
Keep checking KOTV.com...as soon as the live feed is recorded, you will be able to watch it over and over...
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:33 AM
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Keep checking KOTV.com...as soon as the live feed is recorded, you will be able to watch it over and over...
Yeah, they have nothing yet.
Posted By: mk_
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:34 AM
Hhmmm..........did schlitz use preservatives in thier beer back then?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:34 AM
Patience, young grasshopper[s].
Posted By: moparx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:35 AM
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We woulda had WAYYYY better emcees though.
Hahaha
That's two of our intellectual socialites, we wouldn't of sacrificed our GOOD talent for a show of ANY kind...
Eh?
(Nice stubby bottle BTW!)
"BOO LOO KOO KOO OH U KOO KOO" [or somthin like that.......] "how 'bout a beer eh?"......
Posted By: badblack68
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:36 AM
Someone said moparjamie was seen dragging it home!
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:38 AM
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Someone said moparjamie was seen dragging it home!
hahahahahahaha!!!! I now have beer all over my keyboard.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:38 AM
Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:39 AM
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Patience, young grasshopper[s].
Thanks Wagon for calling me young. Now that I've turned 40 (last weekend), I don't feel as young as I once did.
Posted By: theraif
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:40 AM
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Hhmmm..........did schlitz use preservatives in thier beer back then?
yah let some one from the great white north ask about the beer....
Posted By: TrWaters
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:40 AM
Someone said moparjamie was seen dragging it home!
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:44 AM
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Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
I guess arizona and new mexico dont count
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:46 AM
I would have thought the unveiling would have been on TV to be honest, it's quite the story, and considering what else is on TV nowadays....
I wonder if there will be a TV show on the car getting cleaned up further, or more deeply delving into the car's contents, etc?
Posted By: oldman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:47 AM
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Someone said moparjamie was seen dragging it home!
Now that's funny , right there I tell you right now LMAO
Posted By: BCSharp
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:50 AM
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I would have thought the unveiling would have been on TV to be honest, it's quite the story, and considering what else is on TV nowadays....
I wonder if there will be a TV show on the car getting cleaned up further, or more deeply delving into the car's contents, etc?
"On the next episode of American rustbucket"
Actually that would be interesting, eventually I suppose that most of that stuff will be in a city museum of some sort with a much more in depth information on them. Road trip anyone?
Posted By: ksj
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:50 AM
Glad i wasnt the only one that spit beer on the screen.
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:51 AM
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Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
It was a 46 star flag it was from when Oklahoma first became a state in 1907.
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:51 AM
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Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
...and then called it "Old Faithful"?
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:52 AM
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Glad i wasnt the only one that spit beer on the screen.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:52 AM
Posted By: GTSDave
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:52 AM
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That will come right out with a little Rust-Ez Medicated Bumper Ointment.
Yes we still watch 'Cars' at least once a week here at the house. I swear that boy of mine is gonna wear out the DVD.
-Dave
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:53 AM
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Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
...and then called it "Old Faithful"?
OK you got me on that one.
Posted By: Tim S.
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:53 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/16/07 02:10 AM
Posted By: oldman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:18 AM
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:20 AM
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:21 AM
so whats it look like???
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:22 AM
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Hahaha
That's two of our intellectual socialites, we wouldn't of sacrificed our GOOD talent for a show of ANY kind...
and this guy to replace Boyd
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:23 AM
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so whats it look like???
so whats it look like?
Posted By: Russ
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:24 AM
We wanna see some pictures!!!!!!
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:25 AM
skip back to page 22 for a few screen shots ...
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:26 AM
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Am I the only one who caught the faux pas when the MC said "this 46 star flag?"
You are not alone lol
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:27 AM
The flag entombed with the car was from 1957, not 1907, BTW. It was a 48 star. And, FYI, Oklahoma wasn't recognized on the 46 star flag until November 16, 1907 - , after the June 15 date. Just a bit of trivia. In 1907, on June the 15th, a correct flag to make it a 100 year flag for the enearthing, would have had 45 stars.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:28 AM
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Pictures Pleeeeeeeeeeeease
Posted By: MPerry
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:32 AM
I almost feel bad for not getting the least bit excited over this event. ~Mike~
BTW: If they were truely going for a 3 ring circus...they couldn't have picked a better clown!
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:37 AM
Several people have wondered how long the protective bag had been torn open. I believe I know the exact time that it occured.
I believe it happened at the very moment that DC gave the Plymouth name the ax! It was just more than the old girl could stand.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:38 AM
Does anybody have video yet of the un-peeling?
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:40 AM
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Does anybody have video yet of the un-peeling?
it should be here pretty soon:
http://www.kotv.com/special/buried-car/
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:40 AM
Ive compiled the most recent pictures here
http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/showthread.php?p=281#post281And if you go back to page 1, there are videos as well.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:41 AM
Well Boyds crew finally got the mud washed off of her.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:43 AM
I'm sad to see how this turned out
I had hoped the car would have been in better condition but after seeing the water lines in the container I knew it was going to be bad.
I have thought of my late grandfather(he worked for the city of Tulsa)all this week and I have to think that he followed this event back in 1957 because he was a loyal dodge man.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:44 AM
this is as bad as geradols search in al capones hidden room....
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:44 AM
I was there.....
...but I cannot post pics. They will appear on another site, and only when I upload them and the editors sort through them.
For now, though, here are two pics from my cell phone.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:44 AM
Sorry that's a 4 door, or did Boyd and his crew work Magic like they do on TV???
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:44 AM
Another!
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:46 AM
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Well Boyds crew finally got the mud washed off of her.
Pretty cool, they painted it pretty quick too, considering it went into the ground copper/white and now it's red/white.
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:46 AM
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I'm gonna guess that this is the fastest growing post on Moparts ever. Nver seen one take off like this that wasn't locked LMAO and I've been around here for a long time.
An old oklahoma (OK country song, comes to mind)
Turn out the lights, The party's over, they say that all-- good things must end DAH Ddah dah-----
Tim
This may even have surpased the historic 'earwax' thread.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:47 AM
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I was there.....
...but I cannot post pics. They will appear on another site, and only when I upload them and the editors sort through them.
For now, though, here are two pics from my cell phone.
argghhh!
Posted By: 3tx9340
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:47 AM
Posted By: DCM71cuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:47 AM
PICS>>>PICS>>>>PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
web page
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:48 AM
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That'll buff right out...(someone had to say it).
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:48 AM
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This may even have surpased the historic 'earwax' thread.
I guess I missed that one, LUCKY ME
TIm
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:48 AM
Nah!! That was just some residual mud, she's a 2 door that's somewhat faded. Must be that Okie red clay that did it.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:50 AM
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That'll buff right out...(someone had to say it).
it really might
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:50 AM
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Well I do see some pretty OK chrome there.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:51 AM
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:52 AM
Posted By: DirectSubjection
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:54 AM
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Quote:
That'll buff right out...(someone had to say it).
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:58 AM
i heard the puddle of oil under the front tire..
is from where they attempted to check the oil..
an when they put the dipstick back in ..
it pushed right through the oil pan....
stick a fork in her..she is as done as the turkey ..from the "family vacation movies"
but the aircleaner is mint...someone wrapped it with seranwrap or reynold aluminum foil..of some type..
cheapst
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:00 AM
While watching this, I had this over-welming feeling to log onto "Cars N Barns" site.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:01 AM
Thats not Oil! Thats Belvedere juice!
Posted By: amxautox
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:01 AM
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While watching this, I had this over-welming feeling to ln onto "Cars N Barns" site.
'Cars in Barns'. Looks like that one ended up in the manure pit.
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:03 AM
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The flag entombed with the car was from 1957, not 1907, BTW. It was a 48 star. And, FYI, Oklahoma wasn't recognized on the 46 star flag until November 16, 1907 - , after the June 15 date. Just a bit of trivia. In 1907, on June the 15th, a correct flag to make it a 100 year flag for the enearthing, would have had 45 stars.
You are correct. I did just mean OK became a state in 1907 not that the flag was from then even though that is what I said. I did read something here in OKC that it was a 46 star flag from just after staehood but you know how accurate the media can be...
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:04 AM
All joking aside though the body panels seem intact from the outside..is that surface rust or mud covering it?
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:05 AM
That ole girl was over her head in water for sure.
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:05 AM
I just got back to the hotel but no pics as I don't have a cable with me. The car seems to be fairly OK what comes to the exterior sheetmetal but as you have seen the interior is pretty much toast as is probably the undercarriage. The inside of the trunklid was toast. The other leafspring is supposed to have rusted so bad that it broke in the moving process. I could not get close to the car as you'd need a media pass for that. Too bad that I didn't apply for one as it seems that they've passed those out like candy. Tomorrow the car should be on display at the convention center after a basic cleanup. Maybe we'll have a better look then.
As great as it was to see the car I'd have to say that the whole convention center and the event was very badly run. No matter what you were asking everybody seemed to give a different answer. All soda machines were empty early on. There was one food kiosk for thousands of people??? The car show area was so poorly lit that it was very difficult to get any decent shots. Very soon after the formal event the staff started to clear out the arena. Would it be too much to ask after traveling half the world to have some decent pics of the car?? The annoying and ever so negative BC and at least 10 (!) cops ON THE STAGE were blocking the view most of the time. Not to mention the TV boom that blocked the view for half of the spectators when official part was going on. Very strange. And and and...
Another strange thing was that as soon as the car was out of the vault and most of the spectators gone the preparations for filling the vault were in full swing. Since this area was off limits to most people during the unearthing it would have been nice to take a few pics later on. Well, after following the car to the convention center a few blocks away I got back to the vault. There were a dozen (!) cops keeping an eye on it?? When I asked if I could go and take a picture of it they said "No, it is too dangerous with all the construction going on". What the heck, the only thing that was going on was the lifting structure being secured on a semi 30 yards away??? Of course, being from the Nordic countries I have a hard time seeing such a huge police presence at an event like this but this was plain silly. I just wish that the Tulsa officials would have given these things a bit more thought. On a more positive side a nice gentleman from The Plymouth Owners Club (?) gave me a piece of the vault off a larger chunk he had gotten earlier, mud and all
I guess there will be a chance to take a better look of the car tomorrow at the show. It looks like it will be standing slightly raised though so probably no view of the interior and engine compartment. We'll see...
In any case, the car is beautiful!
Hans
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:05 AM
Anybody notice the battery was left hooked up?
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:06 AM
Hold her head up she's sucking mud!
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:08 AM
Whats laying on the seat? Did those cars have board type headliners? Whats the ?bars? you can see along the top of the drivers side window?
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:13 AM
Posted By: NAS Backyard
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:13 AM
marinatedcar.com, I'm sad the car is done, but I'm glad I didn't make seeing it the focal point of my trip through Tulsa. I really think the comparison to the Titanic was pretty close. I think our grave digger in Nebraska(corncopia?) had it right on the money as well as the local guy who said the water would be in it. The hoopla factor will be worth a few bucks. At least the next one will be buried properly.
Posted By: Skued
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:17 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:19 AM
I still think we gonna be suprised when she gets all washed up I meen shes gonna have a lot of rust & but I bet she cleans up nice Mud will preserve a lot of stuff
Posted By: BB70DUSTER
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:20 AM
Id like to see it after being pressure washed... I really dont think its that bad minus the interior
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:21 AM
The battery was removed and placed in the trunk, according to eyewitness accounts in 1957.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:27 AM
Oh NO!! (cars radio starts playing "Rock-n-roll is here to stay") Christine LIVES!!
Posted By: mk_
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:27 AM
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The battery was removed and placed in the trunk, according to eyewitness accounts in 1957.
This pic shows it in place.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 03:28 AM
I STILL wanna see it washed.
I'm not sure the body panels are that terrible?
Posted By: mopowergtx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:28 AM
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The battery was removed and placed in the trunk, according to eyewitness accounts in 1957.
Looks like the battery is still hooked up.
Posted By: amxautox
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:28 AM
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The battery was removed and placed in the trunk, according to eyewitness accounts in 1957.
This pic shows it in place.
Maybe that TV 'star' guy tried to start it and put that battery there.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:31 AM
I heard lots of rumors of a brand new car being substitutable (is that a word?) for the Belvedere, I wonder if any of the rumors are true?
I would be crazy to say it, but I would rather have the 57.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:32 AM
Just another fallacy of eyewitnesses...the pics are the perfect illustration.
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:34 AM
Well new it was a good looking car. Since I was brought home from the hospital in a 58 Savoy and it was the only car we had until 1970 I kind of have a soft spot for them.
Here is my prediction..someone will take it and restore it totally. It will end up on B J one day and the moron in the red cap and Ferrari jacket will bid it up to 1.5 million...at least
Almost joking but as much exposure and history as this car has it would have to be worth a mint restored
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:35 AM
A mint restored...a place in history lost forever.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:36 AM
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hmmmm, why did the back sag like that? The front end seems mostly intact, they just uncovered some chrome on the front bumper and they said it was amazing.
I think this might have something to do with that sag. It appears to be a piece of the leafsprings.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:37 AM
I take post 1000 in this thread for all PLYMOUTH owners, everywhere!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:37 AM
At least one is broken. 1000 posts...WOW!
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:37 AM
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I heard lots of rumors of a brand new car being substitutable (is that a word?) for the Belvedere, I wonder if any of the rumors are true?
I would be crazy to say it, but I would rather have the 57.
Who started THAT rumor? That's a load of EXCREMENT!
1. Why would they?
2. Why should they?
3. Who is "they"? DCX? HA!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:38 AM
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I heard lots of rumors of a brand new car being substitutable (is that a word?) for the Belvedere, I wonder if any of the rumors are true?
I would be crazy to say it, but I would rather have the 57.
Who started THAT rumor? That's a load of EXCREMENT!
1. Why would they?
2. Why should they?
3. Who is "they"? DCX? HA!
I also heard internet rumors that Chrysler would "service" the Belvedere back to new condition.
I'm guessing THAT one is false too.
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:43 AM
I also heard that the ashes of Elliot Ness were interned in the glovebox!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:44 AM
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I also heard that the ashes of Elliot Ness were interned in the glovebox!
If that were true his name truly WOULD be "Mud"...
Posted By: mr_belvedere
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:50 AM
Anyone have a link to the vintage 1957 video footage of the car being prepped/lowered into the vault? Guess I should have bookmarked it.....
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:53 AM
I don't know what everyone else has posted since there's too many posts to read, but it was like attending a large funeral.
Not much left of the old girl. There were a lot of nice finned cars in the exhibit hall though. Once again, why was Boyd there.
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:58 AM
If the leaf springs rotted that bad, you can only imagine how bad the frame is.
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:00 AM
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This is the most unorganized redneck production I've ever seen. There, I said it. You had this much freaking time to do something big and this is the result.
I have to admit, while I was there, I was thinking the same thing.
Posted By: Cheeto
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:03 AM
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I wonder if there will be a TV show on the car getting cleaned up further,
Yes, it's being sponsored by Burger King but they have to wait for their cleaning skank er... I mean "lady" to get out of the pokie!
Overall I think this was a pretty cool ordeal. Likely once-in-a-lifetime for most of us.
Posted By: ksj
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:13 AM
I want to know if anyone drank a beer and had one of those pills?That person would resemble the car i think.
Alot of coulda,shouda,wouda about the vault.They did what they could with the technology that was available in 1957.If a car were to be buried today whose to say the same thing might occur in 50 years.I wasnt a twinkle in dads eye til 1959.The next car that gets buried needs to have a camera on it.The stories that car could tell.Gonna be a nice day no rain.40 days and 40 nights.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:16 AM
Theres a Prowler in the ground right now, welded shut aluminum vat w/ no oxygen.
Posted By: MO_PA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:23 AM
It was quite a 50 years.
I was a 17 year old high school student working for a local Plymouth dealer when the 57 was buried. I remember saying that Chrysler should give me the car, I told my boss that I'd keep it looking like new for 50 years instead of letting it rot in that concrete 'grave'. Oh well it has been fun owning/driving my own few Plymouths, Dodges, Chryslers and a couple of Imperials, most of the cars I've owned are from the 60's.
What fun!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:36 AM
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I don't know what everyone else has posted since there's too many posts to read, but it was like attending a large funeral. Not much left of the old girl. There were a lot of nice finned cars in the exhibit hall though. Once again, why was Boyd there.
Simple.. he was schlocking products..
Boyd Coddington Scheduled to Install AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants in Tulsarama Belvedere
Thursday June 14, 2007 10:41:23 EDT
SUPERIOR, Wis., Jun 14, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) --
Legendary hot rod builder Boyd Coddington will use AMSOIL synthetic lubricants and filters exclusively in his mission to revive a buried 1957 Plymouth Belvedere.
On June 15, 1957, the city of Tulsa, Okla. buried a new gold and white 1957 Plymouth Belvedere Sport Coupe in a time capsule in downtown Tulsa as part of Golden Jubilee Week, a celebration of Oklahoma's 50th year of statehood. On June 15, 2007, the car, along with other assorted historical artifacts, will be unearthed and transferred to the Tulsa Convention Center as part of Oklahoma's Tulsarama Centennial celebration. On hand will be legendary hot rod builder Boyd Coddington, host of the hit TV series American Hot Rod. Coddington and his crew will be responsible for getting the Belvedere running after spending 50 years buried in the underground vault. The process will be filmed for an episode of American Hot Rod, which will air on The Learning Channel later this fall.
Posted By: ksj
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:48 AM
Herb M did the right thing to not get involved.My wife pays more attention to me than I thought
When I told her that Herb had abstained and that they had got someone else her reply was dont say "Boyd".I told her yes Boyd.Now I have a list of chores she wants done and she is going to work Fathers Day.THANKS BOYD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: da50r
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:22 AM
Boyd is there because there is an opportunity to make a lot of money. He is a real shady business man and he has done well for himself. He is a great promotor and a very smart guy... he's going to do a TV show and it will be a big hit... watch and see....
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:44 AM
Boyd - 'roid...if I hear that name one more time I'm going to hurl.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:54 AM
I know people are freakin' because the car is sitting low in the back.
But... did anybody notice the back tires went flat again? The springs were not poking through the trunk floor, you can't see them when they are pulling stuff out of the trunk.
But yeah that kid is holding a piece of one of the rear springs... and the trunk lid is shot...
I hope they wash the dang thing now...
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:55 AM
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Boyd is there because there is an opportunity to make a lot of money. He is a real shady business man and he has done well for himself. He is a great promotor and a very smart guy... he's going to do a TV show and it will be a big hit... watch and see....
I'm kinda curious why all this "Boyd bashing" on this thread. I personally dont care for the guy, but, he was there cuz he was asked to be. He plugged his show cuz they asked him to, and he ended up taking the same position that the majority of us here did, which is to leave the car just like it is. What did he do that was so wrong? Did I miss something?
Posted By: Quikshft
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:59 AM
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Boyd
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHSSSSSSPEEEEEWWWWWWWWW
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:05 AM
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Boyd
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHSSSSSSPEEEEEWWWWWWWWW
So THATS how you spell it.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:27 AM
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:56 AM
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http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/agasrcng/
Thnx for the great pics. It's great the capsule was un-harmed, but man, what a shame for the poor car. I'm afraid there's no fixin' that one...these pics really show how badly rusted up she is.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:04 AM
Yes, a big thanks to everyone who posted info, pictures and vidio of this magical event!
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 10:09 AM
What's wrong with Boyd? Simply the fact that he or his goons don't give a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean]. No respect towards the car whatsoever. He broke the passenger side vent window. They hammered down the side window. The glovebox was forced open with a screwdriver. What a joke. It is like giving an Imperial to a demo derby guy and expect him take good care of it. Hope they don't mess up that car more than they have already.
Hans
Posted By: badblack68
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 10:48 AM
I want to know who won the car. Give the winner their car and lets get this over with already.
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:17 AM
The carb looks like it turned to powder. Seems like the air cleaner is sitting on top of a mound of sand.
Too bad it turned out like that. I am sure there was better technology in 57 that what was used to stored this time capsule.
Plastics, rubber seals, tar even a simple drain could have been used to empty the possibility of water infiltration.
Not too much brainstorming went on when they buried her. R.I.P. Belvee.
Jules
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:18 AM
The report I saw said it may take a month or more to determine the winner and find them or their heirs.
Posted By: wunderless
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:59 AM
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Boyd is there because there is an opportunity to make a lot of money. He is a real shady business man and he has done well for himself. He is a great promotor and a very smart guy... he's going to do a TV show and it will be a big hit... watch and see....
I'm kinda curious why all this "Boyd bashing" on this thread. I personally dont care for the guy, but, he was there cuz he was asked to be. He plugged his show cuz they asked him to, and he ended up taking the same position that the majority of us here did, which is to leave the car just like it is. What did he do that was so wrong? Did I miss something?
Did you see the way he acted? Couldn't care about the whole situation at all. Was there only because it was good P.R.
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What's wrong with Boyd? Simply the fact that he or his goons don't give a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean]. No respect towards the car whatsoever. He broke the passenger side vent window. They hammered down the side window. The glovebox was forced open with a screwdriver. What a joke. It is like giving an Imperial to a demo derby guy and expect him take good care of it. Hope they don't mess up that car more than they have already.
Hans
I agree. He and Dwayne have all the grace and poise of a bull in a china shop.
Posted By: moparx
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:06 PM
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:13 PM
The real buried car was stolen years ago and replaced with a rotter that was found in a field.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 06/16/07 12:14 PM
Posted By: idrivevintage
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:14 PM
Thanks to all who posted pictures!
Sad that the car didn't make it. Looking forward to seeing how it cleans up. Surly it will look better.
This has been quite an experience. I wasn't able to make the trip to Tulsa but I was able to meet some of the folks that were heading there from out east. There was a Car show / welcoming party held in St. Louis for them Monday the 11th. Super nice group of people and it was neat to see so much enthusiasm. A couple guys were there all the way from
England!
Lets hope the Prowler fares better in 2048.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:16 PM
Wow. After going to the unveiling I feel small for being critical of how this was handled. When the time capsule was opened and against a white lining it said "Tulsarama" it was wonderful! My goodness if the vault had survived like the steel time capsule how spectacular the show would have been.
With hindsight it is easy to see the way "they" handled the event was so much better than my previous thoughts. Regardless of what it took I wanted them to open the lid yesterday, rig, and bring her out at whatever time and then simply unveil. I was so wrong. Getting her into the area and behind the curtain with a drum roll and special music was so much better.
Can you imagine how exciting it would have been if it was obvious she was pristine the moment the vault was opened just like when the cover was removed from the time capsule? Heck there would have been dancing in the streets during that parade from the vault to the area and then the cheers when the curtain was lifted and the motor started!
I thank the Tulsarama committee of both 1957 and 2007 for making this such a wonderful event.
Posted By: gts340swinger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:24 PM
I'm sad to see such a beautiful car sit like that. Too bad they didn't think it through better back in '57. That plastic kept the car moist between floods. I feel bad for the people that were there in '57 more than anyone else. What a letdown. It was a cool idea and props go to the citizens of Tulsa for the whole event and original idea.
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:26 PM
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Lets hope the Prowler fares better in 2048.
After seeing how well the time capsule held up under all that water I hope they decide to exhume the Prowler, remove it from the concrete vault, place a welded steel lining in the vault, then seal her up. LOL I think it is amazing that we have another buried car in Tulsa and love that it is a mopar! I am going to start eating better and exercising. I want to be here in 2048!
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:31 PM
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Wow. After going to the unveiling I feel small for being critical of how this was handled. When the time capsule was opened and against a white lining it said "Tulsarama" it was wonderful! My goodness if the vault had survived like the steel time capsule how spectacular the show would have been.
With hindsight it is easy to see the way "they" handled the event was so much better than my previous thoughts. Regardless of what it took I wanted them to open the lid yesterday, rig, and bring her out at whatever time and then simply unveil. I was so wrong. Getting her into the area and behind the curtain with a drum roll and special music was so much better.
Can you imagine how exciting it would have been if it was obvious she was pristine the moment the vault was opened just like when the cover was removed from the time capsule? Heck there would have been dancing in the streets during that parade from the vault to the area and then the cheers when the curtain was lifted and the motor started!
I thank the Tulsarama committee of both 1957 and 2007 for making this such a wonderful event.
Thank you. I think you have the right take on this event. It should have been and was a "homespun" event. It wasn't a polished slick production. I like that. This happening was planned in 1957 to celebrate Oklahoma's 100th anniversary. Happy Birthday!
For everyone that wants glitz and glamor there is lots of footage that will be turned into well produced TV time I am sure.
Proud to be an Okie...
Posted By: mccannix
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:31 PM
Organizers should have known enough to "Avoid the Boyd".
To deter any more circus that may follow, they should gracefully lower that poor car back into the vault, slide the lid on and give her a decent burial, let her rest where she started life
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:40 PM
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Hello all. I happened to find your forum after doing so searching on the net to get other people's opinions of how this has all unfolded. Great site you have here.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a link of a rebroadcast while the car was being unearthed for those of you that had trouble with the live feeds.
http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6748
Enjoy!
best new member lol
Mikester, Typically new members are welcomed by several existing members and hounded for pictures! While a little late (I think we were more than a little distracted) I second your nomination as best new member! Welcome!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 12:56 PM
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Organizers should have known enough to "Avoid the Boyd".
To deter any more circus that may follow, they should gracefully lower that poor car back into the vault, slide the lid on and give her a decent burial, let her rest where she started life
It seems like the 'proper' thing to do. I cant see much gained by leaving the car out. put a nice memorial explaining the events etc.
Posted By: 7DRRunner
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:13 PM
What engine is in that car
anyone know for sure ????
Posted By: evil57belvedere
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:14 PM
she's definatly can be saved. if i can get some pics of mine up i will. but mine sat in a barn for almost 40 years, and was much worse than the tulsa plymouth that was under water.
Posted By: evil57belvedere
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:17 PM
could be a 318 or 301. most likly it's a 301
Posted By: Spike
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 01:46 PM
If they had just covered the vault lid with plastic....
Happy Birthday Tulsa, this is one celebration that will be hard to top
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:07 PM
Technology aside, doesn't Tulsa have cemeteries? How about basements? Between the two, you'd think somebody would have realized water was gonna get in regardless.
Posted By: Thread Ender1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:30 PM
****FOR THOSE WHO havnt*** seen any video ,there is almost 5 minutes on you tube ,i typed in tulsa plymouth,... boy the interior is litterally encrusted in mud! the key in the ignition wont even turn.
Posted By: 69superbee383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:31 PM
I guess if you look at the whole event you would have to say it was a success. Think back about how many city anniversary celebrations that anyone outside of town gives a hoot about. This thing had Tulsa front and center all over the place. Just the fact that they came up with the idea was pretty cool.
As for the car most people I showed the pics too just said..oh cool look at that old car. Not like you see a 57 Plymouth running around much these days. It had the shape of a 57 Plymouth. I did not even think it would have that.
As for the storage..well hindsight is 20/20. I bet if you would ask most people back then it would have been a foregone conclusion that at some point between then and now Tulsa and most of the US would have been in a nuclear attack. I doubt that water even came to mind when they buried it. Many people probably thought why bury it no one will be around to see it anyway.
Look at it this way...we may not be perfect but we fared a lot better than most would have thought..so instead of cave men pulling a shiny car from a vault at least it is the car that is done...not us
Posted By: KnuckleDuster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:51 PM
I'm sorry,if ancient cultures could preserve a human body for a thousand plus years,somebody in 1957 should have been able to figure out how to keep a buried car dry.It's history,alright.It's toast,zip,nada,gone....now that it's OUT of the water in free air,now it's really gonna start rusting.I don't see how they can "leave it as it is"
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 02:52 PM
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:09 PM
Thanks, Diego. I thought I'd be guilty of contributing...
My daughter and I elected to view the happenings as many on MOPARTS did...via the media. We've not been to the Convention Center, as of yet [if she'll EVER get going...]. I am sure the general concensus is the event has been a great success, even with the disappointment of the car's condition.
To all interested, there will be a "cruise" that has become tradition in Tulsa, over the years. It is between 36th street and 51st street, with the hub being at the Sonic drive-in, at 38th and Peoria. Should be a hoot.
This has been one of the most unusual threads I've ever followed in my eight years of MOPARTS, too, I have to say. A smattering of opinions that varies as much as the climate in Oklahoma. I think that is what makes MOPARTS and our USA work. There are rules and regulations, but where else would you want to live? Thanks MODS, for letting us rail on the predictions and actuality of the centenial celebration.
1050 posts/replies. Woohoo!!
Posted By: new bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:16 PM
Boyd coddington is a blah blah blah.
They shoulda sealed the blah blah blah.
Surprised it didn't come out with 4 doors hur hur hur blah blah blah.
Seriously, you guys.
A fifty year old Plymouth Belvedere was just excavated on national TV. A city celebrates a centenial. Cool artifacts have been unearthed. Can we please get beyond the small talk and start looking at what we have?
There is a lot to think about.
That Plymouth looks pretty bad, but not too bad. What's it's fate? Should it be put in a museum? Should it be restored?
Condition - I was not there, so I would really like to hear from those who have inspecte the car up close. How bad is it? Can it be restored? We have seen the trunk, and it looks pretty flimsy. Still, it stayed on the hinges, so how bad is it?
How about other aspects of the car? Is the frame intact? (not "in tact").
Is the sheet metal solid enough, or is the metal getting really thin? Can the interior be upholstered after a thorough cleaning, or is it completely gone?
I see a lot of gold paint - what's the story on the other side of that metal?
Preservation - what to do? What would the Mopar community collectively agree on? Leave it or fix it?
Ownership - who gets it? And, when someone aquires this swamp monster, do we have an ambassador to help them make some decisions with the car? That may be a bit out there, but it would be nice to play some small role in the fate of this car.
Me personally? I'd love to see it fully restored and running. Museums are fine, but the biggest draw would be this car getting attention as it cruises the country's freeways.
As for the event, what a thrill! Iwas glued to my computer watching the wrapping come off. It was exciting stuff - a fifty year old Plymouth seeing the light of day. Yeah, the condition was rough. Still, that's why anticipation is a great thing - it's all about discovery and the excitement of not knowing exactly how things end up.
So, can we start talking about the car?
Posted By: 73cudaproject
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:30 PM
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Lets hope the Prowler fares better in 2048.
Good news about the prototype Prowler in the time capsule! In an article in the Tulsa World it says the Prowler "was driven into an above ground mausoleum, which was then sealed shut and partially covered in dirt", also "instead of being wrapped in plastic sheeting like the Belvedere, the Prowler was enclosed in a seamless plastic "box". In additon the box was filled with an inert gas. I am going to go find this and post a picture. FYI, the Belvedere is part of the states centennial. The Prowler was buried on the city's 100th birthday celebration.
Posted By: begood
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:32 PM
Have they washed it up yet? If so how does it look clean?
Bill.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:40 PM
Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:50 PM
Roger, those are pretty basic choices. If she is left as is, the oxygen and UV will eat her alive in short order. I don't think there is any chance in the world she'll be crushed. As for restoration, if an owner is found, as in the population match - then, to the person who guessed closest/their heirs - it will be up to that person. Maybe there ought to be another choice...create a "Save Miss Belvedere Commitee."
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:54 PM
nice poll but it needs a Have Boyd restore it on TV option
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:57 PM
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nice poll but it needs a Have Boyd restore it on TV option
Posted By: 440newport
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:57 PM
I don't know if the city would be willing to pay for it, but I'd like to see it restored first than given to the winner.
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:58 PM
VERY descriptive use of "smilies".
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 03:58 PM
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nice poll but it needs a Have Boyd restore it on TV option
I think he is already rehearsing. I saw an early 80:s Cutlass with probably 24" wheels and most likely a small block Chevy cruising in Tulsa last night.
Hans
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:00 PM
I have been rendered speechless by a mod! (sorry, man!)
I am going to submit one pic here. I have sent some good pics to the webmaster. I'll post a bad pic here so it doesn't compromise my contract. Hopefully you'll see its condition up close.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:03 PM
I hope they clean it up then leave it as is! I dont care if its all rust and such, but I dont want to see a muddy car.
Posted By: 440newport
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:05 PM
For the people that got up close, how did the body look? Is it restorable do you think? In this pic it really doesn't look so bad?
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:06 PM
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VERY descriptive use of "smilies".
Thank you, thank you very much.
Already had a conversation with a MOD about using my own personal descriptives of BC. Figured the safe thing was to use MOPARTS' own descriptives.
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:08 PM
I GOT IT. Take up collections, restore this baby and re-bury it in a SEALED container like they did the prowler. Open it at the same time they open the prowler up. Dang, wish I could be there.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:19 PM
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I GOT IT. Take up collections, restore this baby and re-bury it in a SEALED container like they did the prowler. Open it at the same time they open the prowler up. Dang, wish I could be there.
I like that idea....
Too bad I can't edit my Poll choices
Posted By: gtx6970
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:31 PM
Just think, If every member here donated just $5 - or some usuable part. I wonder how close we could collectively get to having it restored.All for the New owner so he/her then could actully drive there new found piece of americana.
Leaving it as is , will cause a faster rate of decline - quickly
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:39 PM
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I hope they clean it up then leave it as is! I dont care if its all rust and such, but I dont want to see a muddy car.
i,m with you powerwash it and clean it up and put it on display
Posted By: DPelletier
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:41 PM
If it were mine, there'd be no discussion; she'd be restored. Heck, after seeing some cars that have been restored I would say ANYTHING could be.
Where do I send my money?
Dave
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 04:55 PM
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If it were mine, there'd be no discussion; she'd be restored. Heck, after seeing some cars that have been restored I would say ANYTHING could be.
Where do I send my money?
Dave
Posted By: 71sat440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:06 PM
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I hope they clean it up then leave it as is! I dont care if its all rust and such, but I dont want to see a muddy car.
i,m with you powerwash it and clean it up and put it on display
Since there are no fabric left, just dip it in a giant vat of PB Blaster and see what happens
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:12 PM
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If it were mine, there'd be no discussion; she'd be restored.
Heck, after seeing some cars that have been restored I would say ANYTHING could be.
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:17 PM
My vote would be to clean and preserve. Our group wouldn't even be able to agree on the proper chassis black for restoration!
I hope that it is displayed where it can be seen.
Posted By: Aero426
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:18 PM
Has anyone considered that the car is simply one big wet biohazard?
Powerwash it, clean it up and let it be. I don't see ANY possibility for restoration short of jacking up the air cleaner and driving another car underneath. Yes, not even the revered Keith Sims can fix that car.
Overall, I am sure the event was a positive for Tulsa. They certainly had to make the best of a worst case scenario with the car.
Posted By: Y3 70 BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:26 PM
They could put it back in the ground with Boyd buckled in and bring it back up in another fifty make a great american hot rod episode. And put a case of just for men beard dye in the trunk for Boyd.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:34 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:41 PM
well all thing considered, that 57 is in incredable shape considering it spent most of it's 50 years underwater. i'm amazed it still has air in the tires! but after all the cars been through, it deserves nothing less then a full resto.
Posted By: Stationwagonguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:41 PM
They should have had Dennis Gage come instead of Boyd. Not only would he have been much nicer, more knowledgable, and more respectful of the car and event, his mustache probably could have gotten the car running while he was talking.
On another note- I was talking to someone at the WPC museum a week ago about a friend who really wants the museum to buy his car (long story- I knew they'd have no interest), and the guy had mentioned on the sly that the museum is actually trying to buy "that buried '57 Plymouth" once they figure out who owns it.
My hope, personally, is that the WPC museum manages to buy it, because they'd at least restore it properly (I'd imagine) and put it on display, maybe even lend it back out to Tulsa for display.
Posted By: Stationwagonguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:42 PM
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Has anyone considered that the car is simply one big wet biohazard?
Because of the Cosmoline?
Maybe most of the paint will be OK under that stuff, even? If it's still there, of course.
Posted By: beedees
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:44 PM
Hey, everybody, why don't we start an offical bash Boyd thread..........I don't have much respect for the man, buts thats just my opinion. He HAS done a lot of good for the whole hotrod,custom,muscle car segment .
Posted By: MOPAULY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:45 PM
I don't see the point of restoring the car. It's been submerged, so unless it cleans up real perty like there is going to be ALOT of funk in hard to get to places.
I would hope it just gets as clean as it can be and then put on display as is.
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:48 PM
I can understand wanting to restore the car, but would you guys weld, bondo and paint the Bonnie & Clyde car?
If it's restored, it's just another 57 Plymouth, not that there is anything wrong with a beautifully restored 57. It's just that it will lose the time capsule uniqueness.
Posted By: TJP
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:53 PM
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My hope, personally, is that the WPC museum manages to buy it, because they'd at least restore it properly (I'd imagine) and put it on display, maybe even lend it back out to Tulsa for display.
best idea I've heard yet, if they want it
Tim
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 05:53 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't restore it either. Clean some of the mud off, maybe get the rear back to normal ride height, and display it more or less as-is.
It's a really awesome piece of history in it's current condition. However, my vote would be to do the bare minimum to get it running mechanically, and then do one monster of a burnout.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:00 PM
I'd totally wash the car, completely dry it out and leave it as is. In a climate controlled museum it will remain intact forever.
Posted By: 5thAve
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:06 PM
I think its cool to see what it looks like. It would be a lot better if it was in good condition when they took it out but its just neat to see a car that was buried for 50 years like that! They should just clean it off and leave it alone where you can see it. Restoring it would be stupid. Theres tons of nice looking ones around but you never see one that was buried for 50 years. Id rather see it all rusty and dirty then if they fixed it up with all sorts of parts that dont belong to it. If I won it Id try to trade it to someplace like a museum for another one in good condition. Then you could see the car you won any time you wanted and have one that you can drive and do stuff with at the same time.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:10 PM
SO... the Million Dollar question...
Who won it?? Is the person with the closest
guess to the population still alive??
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:11 PM
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I don't see the point of restoring the car. It's been submerged, so unless it cleans up real perty like there is going to be ALOT of funk in hard to get to places.
I would hope it just gets as clean as it can be and then put on display as is.
I agree only way would be tp strip car to nothing then redistrip it and E coat it. would not even be the same car again. Be just the base shell with all new parts added to it
Posted By: BBR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:14 PM
I personally think this car should be treated no different from a '57 that was left sitting in a field. Restore it to it's showroom condition. If not, it's just another rusty old car.
Here's partially why i think that: In 1957, the winner expected they would get pristine 57 Plymouth 50 years later. In reality they won an orange-ish turd that *might* be worth something to a car guy, but not the average Tulsa resident. I think the city should fork up some $$$$ for a full restoration. Take lots of pictures, but make it new again.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:20 PM
Discussing what should or should not be done with the car is a mute point.
The car will be going to the winner (or nearest living realitive) for them to do with it what they will
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:28 PM
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Discussing what should or should not be done with the car is a mute point.
The car will be going to the winner (or nearest living realitive) for them to do with it what they will
Ok then guess at this point the real question is:
If you won the car what would you do with it?
I personaly would Ebay it so i could read about how bad of a guy i am on moparts
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:47 PM
From personal experience, it can be really tough to be the person(s) that restore a trashed high profile car. You never feel like you win. You have the people that are happy to see the car looking great and roadworthy, then you have the people that believe the restoration process killed any coolness the car had left. It is alot different than restoring an unknown barn find.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 06:47 PM
POR-15 and Zero Rust
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:50 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6-15 - 06/16/07 06:50 PM
maybe it's still covered under warranty?I meen, it has like no miles on it!
Posted By: 472 R/T SE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 06:55 PM
Is there something I don't know about flag etiquette? Why is this flag resting on the ground?
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:03 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
I was the First one to hit crush it when the poll was posted.at least I am honest with my opinion.
Posted By: maxie
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:07 PM
I read that chrysler wants the car.
I read somewhere that whom ever wins the car can trade it for any new chrysler of their choosing.
no boot straight up even.
I will trade you this 57 plymouth for the 07 viper thank you
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:10 PM
to be 100% truthful here i would strip it for all the stainless trim clean ect and clean that stuff up and ebay it for cash and to see it go to a good home and crush the rest that is worthless....
Only other option {for me}would be to just mash it all or sell it all as is.Not everyone has the cash or know how to restore a car that far gone
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:18 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
I was the First one to hit crush it when the poll was posted.at least I am honest with my opinion.
Well, all kidding aside, I am astounded.
We live in COMPLETELY different worlds. I wouldn't think about crushing that car, even as a joke.
Posted By: MO_PA
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:19 PM
my 2cents:
Save this 57 as it came from the tomb, clone the original and store them side by side for the world to see.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:25 PM
Just got home from the car show and the '57 looks rough,they have it roped off so you could only get about 10' from it.I don't know if it could be restored or not but I wouldn't crush it.
One police officer guarding the car said it might be July before they find out who won it but he has heard three museums are already wanting the car.
I did see alot of nice cars at the show including several 57's.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:25 PM
maybe crush it into a cube and use it for a coffee table.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:28 PM
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Is there something I don't know about flag etiquette? Why is this flag resting on the ground?
I was worried that they would drop it as they were unfolding it, now it seems they just decided to let it dust the floor.
Hopefully someone in the know will see to it that the flag gets retired correctly, and that the people resonsible for desecrating it are told exactly what they have just done.
They have now technically just ruined an irreplaceable piece of the time capsule contents, and Oklahoma history.
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:28 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
I was the First one to hit crush it when the poll was posted.at least I am honest with my opinion.
Well, all kidding aside, I am astounded.
We live in COMPLETELY different worlds. I wouldn't think about crushing that car, even as a joke.
Astounded that I would part and crush a car?
I have crushed better cars! The E body guys would string me up for what I have done ! And I am an E Body guy! Sometimes the parts are worth more than the car.Parts have to come from somewhere I sure know when I sold the parts everyone involved was happy and the much need the parts were used so another car could live.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:34 PM
Some people always find something to [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] about.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:44 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
I was the First one to hit crush it when the poll was posted.at least I am honest with my opinion.
Well, all kidding aside, I am astounded.
We live in COMPLETELY different worlds. I wouldn't think about crushing that car, even as a joke.
Astounded that I would part and crush a car?
I have crushed better cars! The E body guys would string me up for what I have done ! And I am an E Body guy! Sometimes the parts are worth more than the car.Parts have to come from somewhere I sure know when I sold the parts everyone involved was happy and the much need the parts were used so another car could live.
So you wouldn't "CRUSH IT", you mean you would strip it of all good parts and then toss the unusable stuff?
I've saved rare cars because of the CAR, I could have made personal gains before but instead gave a Hemi car away because of just what you say what you would do- I figured the car was more important than my wallet.
Got it for free, a REAL Hemi car minus drivetrain ONLY, then gave it away. For free. For the CAR's sake.
I coulda sold all the parts off it easily.
Somebody else restored it, but it was a very solid car with everything but the Hemi/727 when I got it.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:47 PM
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my 2cents:
Save this 57 as it came from the tomb, clone the original and store them side by side for the world to see.
That's not a bad idea IMO.
Posted By: blairboy3
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:49 PM
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Is there something I don't know about flag etiquette? Why is this flag resting on the ground?
I was worried that they would drop it as they were unfolding it, now it seems they just decided to let it dust the floor.
Hopefully someone in the know will see to it that the flag gets retired correctly, and that the people resonsible for desecrating it are told exactly what they have just done.
They have now technically just ruined an irreplaceable piece of the time capsule contents, and Oklahoma history.
If you want to get technical... it's not touching the ground, it's touching the stage above the ground- probably a good 4-5 feet above the gound if you include the finish floor elevation of the building slab Let the beating commence
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:51 PM
My time at the show was cut short by a dead camera and an 11 year old daughter I wore out.
As for the post about amazement for the air in the tires, they were, indeed flat at unearthing. They were aired for showing it and I think "Fix'A'Flat" introduced. That's what I overheard from some of the guys working with the car.
As far as the car's current condition...I don't think a "powerwashing" is a good idea. There are already bubbles forming in the metal, now that the air and UV have started to come into play [mostly the air, little UV, as it is inside, so far].
I think the car will very quickly rot away, as all the cars from that era did, just a bit slower. There will be the quandry. How to stop the decay...how to clean it up...should it be cleaned up. Those may never really be answerable until what occurs with the car actually happens...just like the unearthing.
Regardless, the car came up in pretty good condition, considering it had been bobbing up and down with the wet seasons Oklahoma has had for the past 50 years. What comes next will be determined when it actually happens.
The events of this weekend are going to be good, the stuff in the time capsule was way cool [though the flag sweeping the base of the stage was unconsiencable].
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:53 PM
i would put it on ebay with no reserve and donate the proceds to charity
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Discussing what should or should not be done with the car is a mute point.
The car will be going to the winner (or nearest living realitive) for them to do with it what they will
Ok then guess at this point the real question is:
If you won the car what would you do with it?
I personaly would Ebay it so i could read about how bad of a guy i am on moparts
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:54 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see it restored and stay on display in Tulsa.
How about everyone else?
Who would POSSIBLY say "crush it, she's a goner".. on your poll..?
Why don't you read back through the 1000+ posts prior to the poll?
There were plenty of guys saying it was beyond hope... so thats why I put it there. plain and simple.
Thought about having 2 polls... for those who wanted it restored.
But knew it would just be 100% for "Don't let Boyd touch it!" so there was no point.
Personally, while I bust Alans balls over the Barrel Cuda (I say its now a rebody...just done the hard way)
I still admire the mans desire to bring back the dead! So I would give him the 57 and say "Have at it."
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 07:58 PM
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Why don't you read back through the 1000+ posts prior to the poll?
There were plenty of guys saying it was beyond hope... so thats why I put it there. plain and simple.
I read through the entire thread as it progressed, and I have a "plain and simple" one for you.....
King Tut is dead.
No hope for revival.
Should we cremate his remains?
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:05 PM
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Why don't you read back through the 1000+ posts prior to the poll?
There were plenty of guys saying it was beyond hope... so thats why I put it there. plain and simple.
I read through the entire thread as it progressed, and I have a "plain and simple" one for you.....
King Tut is dead.
No hope for revival.
Should we cremate his remains?
Should we cremate his remains?
Yes we should out of respect for him and the dead. When they put him to rest they put him to rest!
Posted By: nitroram33
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:07 PM
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I read that chrysler wants the car.
I read somewhere that whom ever wins the car can trade it for any new chrysler of their choosing.
no boot straight up even.
I will trade you this 57 plymouth for the 07 viper thank you
There isn't an '07 Viper, they skipped it.
Posted By: 69DodgeCharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:07 PM
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Is there something I don't know about flag etiquette? Why is this flag resting on the ground?
I was worried that they would drop it as they were unfolding it, now it seems they just decided to let it dust the floor.
Hopefully someone in the know will see to it that the flag gets retired correctly, and that the people resonsible for desecrating it are told exactly what they have just done.
They have now technically just ruined an irreplaceable piece of the time capsule contents, and Oklahoma history.
Wow.....are you really that far out of touch with reality? "dust the floor?" Touching the floor and desecration are quite a ways apart. Some people love to complain just because they can. I am betting that flag has received, and will continue to receive better care on average than the flags of the people whining about it "brushing" the ground. You guys really need to find something better to direct your "energies" towards.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:08 PM
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Why don't you read back through the 1000+ posts prior to the poll?
There were plenty of guys saying it was beyond hope... so thats why I put it there. plain and simple.
I read through the entire thread as it progressed, and I have a "plain and simple" one for you.....
King Tut is dead.
No hope for revival.
Should we cremate his remains?
Again what does that have to do with putting an option in a poll that reflected what some people obviously felt in prior posts.
Not allowing for others opinions is a liberal trait I'm far from that.
Besides I stated up front I would like to see it restored!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:09 PM
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Why don't you read back through the 1000+ posts prior to the poll?
There were plenty of guys saying it was beyond hope... so thats why I put it there. plain and simple.
I read through the entire thread as it progressed, and I have a "plain and simple" one for you.....
King Tut is dead.
No hope for revival.
Should we cremate his remains?
Should we cremate his remains?
Yes we should out of respect for him and the dead. When they put him to rest they put him to rest!
They didn't put him to rest, they tried their best to PRESERVE him, and did the best they could at that time.
Like the 1957 Plymouth.
So you would dig up what was a historic attempt to preserve something and just crush/destroy it?
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:10 PM
Hopefully no one with the "it's a worthless-heap-crush-it attitude" will win it. Its historical. Clean it up and display as is.
But then for all you guys that think that it is worthless, there are people out there that think crushing YOUR car is a good idea!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:11 PM
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Again what does that have to do with putting an option in a poll that reflected what some people obviously felt in prior posts.
Not allowing for others opinions is a liberal trait I'm far from that.
Besides I stated up front I would like to see it restored!
I asked who would have ANSWERED "crush it", not why did you put it on your poll...
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:18 PM
Worthless I never said that! It is worth plenty in parts, for other cars that are in better shape that need it's parts.
For those that say Restore it! Where will the parts come from to do so?Are they just going to fall out the sky as a gift from god?No they are going to come from NOS Stock and parts cars{where those parts cars come from?
Posted By: Giggy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:30 PM
I'd take plenty of pictures and maybe a few parts for display and get rid of the thing. If it is as bad as it looks, I think it would be too costly to restore and it wouldn't last in its current condition. It will crumble into a heap soon. I am not sure how to prevent that.
Posted By: 67Charger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:46 PM
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That's two of our intellectual socialites, we wouldn't of sacrificed our GOOD talent for a show of ANY kind...
and this guy to replace Boyd
"I'm a man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess.
Amen."
Both of you Red Green viewers will recognize that...
Posted By: 472 R/T SE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 08:52 PM
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Wow.....are you really that far out of touch with reality? "dust the floor?" Touching the floor and desecration are quite a ways apart. Some people love to complain just because they can. I am betting that flag has received, and will continue to receive better care on average than the flags of the people whining about it "brushing" the ground. You guys really need to find something better to direct your "energies" towards.
My other post in this thread was a positive one amongst the naysayers. The only piece of the time capsule I thought important was Old Glory. My sense of patriotism apparently is frowned upon because I posted a pic of the flag on the ground and voiced my displeasure. 
Posted By: calmopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:00 PM
I think the carelessness with the flag along with the invitation to have Boyd Coddington advertise his show and sponsors while adding NOTHING to the ceremonial or informational aspect of the unveiling are both examples of how UNABLE that group was to develop and execute a basic system of protocol surrounding the event. I have nothing bad to say about Tulsa or Oklahoma, but the particular people in charge of the event weren't* really qualified to pull it off with any class.
* missed that word, had to edit.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:01 PM
This thread has had more whining, sniveling, groveling, bickering and input from all the "armchair experts" than any thread I can remember. This is definitely another instance where I am ashamed to be a Mopar enthusiast.
Posted By: Dave64
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:02 PM
I have figured this out. In this day of litigation the winner should sue the City of Tulsa for negligence. There you go money for restoration or the Islands whichever suits your fancy...This would not really surprise me somehow.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:06 PM
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This thread has had more whining, sniveling, groveling, bickering and input from all the "armchair experts" than any thread I can remember. This is definitely another instance where I am ashamed to be a Mopar enthusiast.
Well stated, John!
Now I understand where I have been going astray. For all these years my link in favorites for "Peyton Place" has been leading me to MOPARTS. In recent days, the difference hasn't been noticed, at least, on this thread. [though I will admit, some of the remarks it seems have been fueled by passion...]
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Posted By: TrWaters
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:10 PM
My
Dry the thing out and display it as-is. The whole mystique of the last 50 years was " I wonder what its going to look like". Well.....now we know.
The attraction
now is to see the retrieved 57 Plymouth. I personally would not find any interest in viewing a "now restored 57 Plymouth that was buried for 50 years". 90% would not believe its the same car anyway.
Let the history of the buried 57 continue run its course.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:10 PM
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This thread has had more whining, sniveling, groveling, bickering and input from all the "armchair experts" than any thread I can remember. This is definitely another instance where I am ashamed to be a Mopar enthusiast.
There he goes, whining again.
Posted By: 69DodgeCharger
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:10 PM
Yeah I know......I can kiss your
Personally I have much bigger problems related to surviving and being solvent than whether or not a flag incidentally touches a clean stage floor because of some poor organization on the part of the people that put on the event (mountains out of molehills maybe?). I am pretty sure there was no disrespect on their part towards the flag. and to be honest my post was more directed at the other poster who complained about it like it was some "big deal" It is not. I don't hear anybody complaining about the rotted flags that hang on their poles 365 days a year, including some at State and municipal facilities all across the country, but thats different.At the risk of this turning into a huge political skirmish I will just leave it at that and bow out.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:12 PM
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Yeah I know......I can kiss your
Personally I have much bigger problems related to surviving and being solvent than whether or not a flag incidentally touches a clean stage floor because of some poor organization on the part of the people that put on the event (mountains out of molehills maybe?). I am pretty sure there was no disrespect on their part towards the flag. and to be honest my post was more directed at the other poster who complained about it like it was some "big deal" It is not. I don't hear anybody complaining about the rotted flags that hang on their poles 365 days a year, including some at State and municipal facilities all across the country, but thats different.At the risk of this turning into a huge political skirmish I will just leave it at that and bow out.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:22 PM
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Yeah I know......I can kiss your
Personally I have much bigger problems related to surviving and being solvent than whether or not a flag incidentally touches a clean stage floor because of some poor organization on the part of the people that put on the event (mountains out of molehills maybe?). I am pretty sure there was no disrespect on their part towards the flag. and to be honest my post was more directed at the other poster who complained about it like it was some "big deal" It is not. I don't hear anybody complaining about the rotted flags that hang on their poles 365 days a year, including some at State and municipal facilities all across the country, but thats different.At the risk of this turning into a huge political skirmish I will just leave it at that and bow out.
My thoughts exactly!
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 09:34 PM
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Save this 57 as it came from the tomb, clone the original and store them side by side for the world to see.
This was exactly my thought. For 50 years people have waited to see how she faired, well, now we know. I think to restore it, as someone else said, would take away the uniqueness of it. Just as artifacts from shipwrecks, or ancient tombs are preserved in the "as found" state, I think the 57 should be also. People in the future would get more from the story of the car and the time if its left as is in a climate contrlled glass enclosure with a perfect copy right next to it, for all to see what it looked like when it went in the vault. But, thats just my .
An opinion about the flag touching the ground, I am VERY patriotic about my country, its flag, and our freedoms. I'm the one who posted about taking his kids to Jefferson Barracks National Cemetary on Memorial Day instead of the usual BBQ and yard games, for the purpose of trying to instill in my kids some sense of apprectiation for what we have. But this thing about the flag is a bit over done IMO. For one, I'm sure they didnt intend to let it touch the floor, I'm sure everyone there was pretty caught up in the excitement of the moment, and two, although this was once our nations flag, its not now. Its a well preserved historic relic of our past, but no longer represents who we are as a nation. We are a 50 state nation, its not an active flag. Try to see it from that perspective.
Posted By: Stationwagonguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 10:44 PM
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I can understand wanting to restore the car, but would you guys weld, bondo and paint the Bonnie & Clyde car?
If it's restored, it's just another 57 Plymouth, not that there is anything wrong with a beautifully restored 57. It's just that it will lose the time capsule uniqueness.
The Bonnie & Clyde car won't deteriorate in air because of bullet holes- my worry is that this thing will completely disintegrate now if nothing is done.
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Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 10:52 PM
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I can understand wanting to restore the car, but would you guys weld, bondo and paint the Bonnie & Clyde car?
If it's restored, it's just another 57 Plymouth, not that there is anything wrong with a beautifully restored 57. It's just that it will lose the time capsule uniqueness.
The Bonnie & Clyde car won't deteriorate in air because of bullet holes- my worry is that this thing will completely disintegrate now if nothing is done.
If its all dried out and cleaned up, just how will it deteriorate? Everyone seems to think this but cant give me a straight answer 
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 10:53 PM
Artifacts from shipwrecks are not left in there "as-found" state, they would fall apart.
They are stabilized, then displayed.
I have a unique idea on what should be done with car.
Clean and stabilize the body and frame, but not restore it. Maybe coat it with clear to seal the rust and prevent further decay.
Clean the interior, try to save as much as possible. Put it back together.
Rebuild the engine, trans, rearend and brakes, but leave the outsides of them as original as possible.
Then you have a running car, but it looks much like it does now.
Put in museum for all to see.
Posted By: camdog440
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:28 PM
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Worthless I never said that! It is worth plenty in parts, for other cars that are in better shape that need it's parts.
For those that say Restore it! Where will the parts come from to do so?Are they just going to fall out the sky as a gift from god?No they are going to come from NOS Stock and parts cars{where those parts cars come from?
Let's not rebuild New Orleans... because the parts are worth more than the city as a whole. Sentimental value is worth something... mystique... something. There's just something about it. There's something about New ORleans too... and I hope New Orleans comes back to the way it was before. I guess I see the car as more than just metal parts that somebody else can use.
Posted By: Skeptic
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:29 PM
I vote crush it, but maybe keep the vin tag and sell it on e-bay for a "collector"
Posted By: hergfest
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:40 PM
Reminds me of a early 70's Pontiac Grand Prix (I think) that was totally destroyed by the Mt. St. Helens blast. I remember seeing the car as a kid and it was an intact shell. Went back ten years later and the roof had caved in. Do you save it or let nature take its course? The park service picked nature.
Posted By: Stationwagonguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/16/07 11:46 PM
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I can understand wanting to restore the car, but would you guys weld, bondo and paint the Bonnie & Clyde car?
If it's restored, it's just another 57 Plymouth, not that there is anything wrong with a beautifully restored 57. It's just that it will lose the time capsule uniqueness.
The Bonnie & Clyde car won't deteriorate in air because of bullet holes- my worry is that this thing will completely disintegrate now if nothing is done.
If its all dried out and cleaned up, just how will it deteriorate? Everyone seems to think this but cant give me a straight answer
Metal deteriorates in oxygen, whether it's wet or not. Then there's humidity. They aren't going to be able to just dry out the inside of the frame, and other such areas either. Whatever is sitting in there will continue to rot.
There's a German submarine at the Chicago museum of Science & Industry that's rotting away on the inside just from humidity.
The stabilization idea is interesting though...
Posted By: 472 R/T SE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 12:09 AM
Gary, this one? It's getting harder to see from the road due to the weeds and such growing around it.
Posted By: Stationwagonguy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 12:59 AM
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Gary, this one? It's getting harder to see from the road due to the weeds and such growing around it.
I wonder if that actually happened naturally or if people were jumping on it?
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:05 AM
Pict and video here if you can get it to load?!
Unveiling Pictures!
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:07 AM
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Save this 57 as it came from the tomb, clone the original and store them side by side for the world to see.
This was exactly my thought. For 50 years people have waited to see how she faired, well, now we know. I think to restore it, as someone else said, would take away the uniqueness of it. Just as artifacts from shipwrecks, or ancient tombs are preserved in the "as found" state, I think the 57 should be also. People in the future would get more from the story of the car and the time if its left as is in a climate contrlled glass enclosure with a perfect copy right next to it, for all to see what it looked like when it went in the vault. But, thats just my .
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:20 AM
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Worthless I never said that! It is worth plenty in parts, for other cars that are in better shape that need it's parts.
For those that say Restore it! Where will the parts come from to do so?Are they just going to fall out the sky as a gift from god?No they are going to come from NOS Stock and parts cars{where those parts cars come from?
Let's not rebuild New Orleans... because the parts are worth more than the city as a whole. Sentimental value is worth something... mystique... something. There's just something about it. There's something about New ORleans too... and I hope New Orleans comes back to the way it was before. I guess I see the car as more than just metal parts that somebody else can use.
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Let's not rebuild All of New Orleans Trust me thats a true fact. I have lived right outside of it my whole life and lots and lots of it was not worth saving before the Katrina storm hit it was way to far gone period!And the storm has made it imposible to fix unless you bull dose and start over fresh.
Same goes for some cars
Posted By: Wile1coyote
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:23 AM
Gentleman lets try to keep this thread on target and not take on the problems of the whole world.
If you want to talk about the car or the unburial fine. if ya'll continue to squabble and whine we might just as well lock this up now and avoid the chaos that will ensue.
it's up to you?
Posted By: Larry_Dart_360
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:28 AM
YOu all seem to forget that none of us here own that car...The person that finally does own it may want to keep it or say "crush it"..I don't want it...it is up to the "owner of the car"
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:45 AM
Wow, the true colors really show. Any of you narrow-sighted "car guys" (HA!) that cannot appreciate the historical value of this vehicle are surely NOT true MoPar people. Go buy (another) brand X!
Us Foward Look-era MoParists sure are a different breed. Some of you just don't get it. That's fine though, to each his own. This is an important vehicle,
Posted By: bigdad
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:09 AM
here is my 1957 friction car..
I'm going to leave it as found condition
Posted By: 426Savoy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:11 AM
I haven't read all of these posts since I just got home and don't know what path this thread has taken.
Although being disappointed in how the Buried Belvedere turned out, it was a great show today with a lot of beautiful Mopars out there. Here's my pics from the show.
Tulsarama
Posted By: IronYuppie
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:17 AM
I think they should restore it the same way that people restore other valuable cars that are total basket cases. That means thousands of man hours, body swap, whatever it takes. I don't see this car as any less important than cars that are supposedly worth millions of dollars.
And after it is meticulously restored, it should be buried again (with a new time capsule), except this time it should be done right. Then it can be unearthed for the 150th anniversary to start the process all over again. That way, each generation can contribute to the history of the car, and there will always be people alive with a personal stake in the car. Otherwise, everyone who had anything to do with it will eventually die and it will become just another museum piece. If you did this every 50 years, people old enough will remember the last time it was unearthed, and some of the people who helped will still be around no matter how old the car becomes.
Posted By: NAS Backyard
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:23 AM
I throughly enjoyed being a part of this whole event , regardless of the cars condition. Once in awhile you just have to get out from behind the keyboard and live life.
Posted By: ksj
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:24 AM
Thanks for the pics
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:33 AM
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This thread has had more whining, sniveling, groveling, bickering and input from all the "armchair experts" than any thread I can remember. This is definitely another instance where I am ashamed to be a Mopar enthusiast.
There he goes, whining again.
Well, well, well, look who finally got let back in and changed his identity so no one would know that it's the old troublemaker Silver, Silver70RR or SilverSS or whatever it was. Nice to see ya there Joey!
Didnt realize you were so intelligent, considering everyone else already knew who I was... but my name has always changed with the cars I have owned. I made no comment, just agreed with someone
Posted By: 1972CudaV21
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:37 AM
Okay, this thread is getting really boring - everyone needs to get off their soapbox.
Posted By: Giggy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:37 AM
Seems like a pretty cool event. Too bad the ole girl got wet. Would have been cool to see how it went down had the car been dry.
I hear they actually had to move the Prowler they buried in 98. I hope that one will go a little better.
Time capsules were pretty popular back then, I just don't understand having to put it IN the ground.
Posted By: Y3 70 BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:51 AM
Boyd should give it to his ex wife as is they would make a pretty pair.
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:01 AM
TIM-- AWESOME pic!!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:10 AM
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I think they should restore it the same way that people restore other valuable cars that are total basket cases. That means thousands of man hours, body swap, whatever it takes. I don't see this car as any less important than cars that are supposedly worth millions of dollars.
And after it is meticulously restored, it should be buried again (with a new time capsule), except this time it should be done right. Then it can be unearthed for the 150th anniversary to start the process all over again. That way, each generation can contribute to the history of the car, and there will always be people alive with a personal stake in the car. Otherwise, everyone who had anything to do with it will eventually die and it will become just another museum piece. If you did this every 50 years, people old enough will remember the last time it was unearthed, and some of the people who helped will still be around no matter how old the car becomes.
Now that's a great idea.
Posted By: Plymouth-man
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:18 AM
Great. Shall we start passing the hat or are you gonna cover it?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:37 AM
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Great. Shall we start passing the hat or are you gonna cover it?
Let's pass the hat!
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:44 AM
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Great. Shall we start passing the hat or are you gonna cover it?
Let's pass the hat!
the guys on this board are so cheap you would be lucky to get 100 bucks total
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:53 AM
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Us Foward Look-era MoParists sure are a different breed. Some of you just don't get it. That's fine though, to each his own. This is an important vehicle,
I'm not necessarily able to qualify as a "forward look" guy, but I can tell you, I surely get it.
I would LOVE to just LOOK at the car.
I have no idea how anybody could talk about "crushing" it, but there are all kinds on MoParts...?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:54 AM
I wish I had it I would start at one end & slowly clean it like they do fossils & try to perserve whats left she deserves that not just sitting there rotting away
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:57 AM
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Gentleman lets try to keep this thread on target and not take on the problems of the whole world.
If you want to talk about the car or the unburial fine. if ya'll continue to squabble and whine we might just as well lock this up now and avoid the chaos that will ensue.
it's up to you?
We will be good!
I just feel for the hardcore dedicated "Forward Look" guys. They truly are in a different circle IMO.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 04:03 AM
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Great. Shall we start passing the hat or are you gonna cover it?
Let's pass the hat!
There are over 14000 members. Discounting a few, shall we say 12000? If each would contribute $5, that would be a chunk of it...
Posted By: ksj
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 04:13 AM
I kick myself for not going.Not just to see the car but just missing the event itself.Looks like no matter what the ones that made the trip enjoyed it.No one in my family put in a population guess so I have no say in what should or shouldnt be done to the car.I even had free lodging lined up.Oh well mom said I wasnt her smartest.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 04:19 AM
I think they should restore it and make a several episode documentary of it. No matter what, everybody will know the car when it is mentioned. Who cares if it got wet, fix it. I have seen cars much, much worse get the attention and restoration needed to bring it back, and this car has more going for it than some. Restore it, and put it on a tour, or in a museum, but do not just let her die like this.
Posted By: 70SWGR
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 04:19 AM
It was one of the best car shows that I've seen in the Tulsa area.
Isn't the car show still going on tomorrow?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 05:06 AM
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There are over 14000 members. Discounting a few, shall we say 12000? If each would contribute $5, that would be a chunk of it...
The sad part of that is that even if you DID pull off getting five bucks out of every member here, that would still be only about a fifth of what it would cost to properly restore a Forward Look car to factory fresh. Especially one that needs everything like that poor car does. That may even be a conservative estimate. NOS Forward Look parts are near impossible to find and you can't just call Year One or Harden's and order up most everything you need. Restoring a Forward Look car makes restoring a Hemi Cuda like restoring a '69 Camaro.
A $60K donation to the restoration fund from all of the members here would be nice. Count me in for twenty bucks if it happens. Five from me and five from each of my three old school Mopars to see one of their older sisters brought back to life.
Posted By: IronYuppie
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:25 AM
I think the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce would be a good place to start.
Posted By: That AMC Guy
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:58 AM
It really makes me wonder how much is rust and how much is red dirt. Look how the front bumper shined up!! Engine and interior are complete garbage now, but the body may not be all that bad. I guess we'd have to wait to see more pictures.
Does it at least roll or had the brakes locked as well?
Posted By: Not_A_Duster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 07:42 AM
Too bad the car ended up in such poor shape.
Sure would be nice to see her end up in a museum or display - either restored or unrestored.
....Nice cars those....
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 08:41 AM
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I think they should restore it the same way that people restore other valuable cars that are total basket cases. That means thousands of man hours, body swap, whatever it takes. I don't see this car as any less important than cars that are supposedly worth millions of dollars.
And after it is meticulously restored, it should be buried again (with a new time capsule), except this time it should be done right. Then it can be unearthed for the 150th anniversary to start the process all over again. That way, each generation can contribute to the history of the car, and there will always be people alive with a personal stake in the car. Otherwise, everyone who had anything to do with it will eventually die and it will become just another museum piece. If you did this every 50 years, people old enough will remember the last time it was unearthed, and some of the people who helped will still be around no matter how old the car becomes.
I am telling you from experience, it is not worth it with a high profile car such as this. There will always be the people that see cutting up the car to preserve it as wrecking it and the end product being just a 'clone' of what it was.
The car should be sealed in an airtight glass display case of sorts. Without oxygen the rust will stop.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 12:00 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 01:39 PM
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I read that chrysler wants the car.
I read somewhere that whom ever wins the car can trade it for any new chrysler of their choosing.
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The only way Id do that is for a Z06
Posted By: AeroMonte
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:49 PM
I just got home from the Tulsa show. There are more 57 Plymouths there than you will ever see assembled together again. The show is incredible. The quality of the cars in attendance is over the top. Traffic control is working great and I found a place to park, truck and car trailer, a half a block from the event. It was the best show I've attended in a long time. Two
for Tulsa and all the folks involved. They were even giving free bottled water to people and their pets. I thought the buried Plymouth was beautiful just the way it sits. I hope it gets sealed away in a museum or like was said before, restore it and plant it again for another 50 years. I've seen much worse cars restored by average guys like us. I was impressed by how well it did hold up after swimming for 50 years. I heard they pumped 1800 gallons of water from the crypt. I believe that wrapping it in plastic actually did more harm than good though. It will be interesting to see if they can locate the winner of the car.
Posted By: AeroMonte
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 02:52 PM
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I read that chrysler wants the car.
I read somewhere that whom ever wins the car can trade it for any new chrysler of their choosing.
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The only way Id do that is for a Z06
A shiny red Viper comes to mind
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:41 PM
That car is so toast. The untreated/painted metal in the car is probably paper thin by the time they treat it. I just can't see sombody killing off other mopars to fix one car.
I'm still waiting for the offical "flush" sound to put an end to this post!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Disposition of this thread - 06/17/07 03:48 PM
My only hope is this thread gets archived. There is nothing "fluffy" about it and there have been some very interesting thoughts posted concerning life, liberty, Old Glory and the state of the hobby.
The suggestions about the car's preservation will be forwarded to the appropriate sources, I promise. The suggestion to start with the chamber of commerce is a good one.
That will begin Monday.
When we "pass the hat", mods, can you suggest a holding tank or account for the funds?
Posted By: minivan
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 03:49 PM
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That car is so toast. The untreated/painted metal in the car is probably paper thin by the time they treat it. I just can't see sombody killing off other mopars to fix one car.
I'm still waiting for the offical "flush" sound to put an end to this post!
I agree.. Push it back in the pit and bury it.. Somebody needs to put it out of its misery.
Looks like our resident gravedigger ( quickfish??) should be getting kudos on this subject.. He is the one who predicted it would be full of water and ruined....
Posted By: AARCONV
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 05:39 PM
the science experiment worked, not what everyone expected but the car is what it is...an original 57 with hardly any miles....worth preserving it like a found treasure from the deep ocean for all to see and admire....rest in peace 57.....
Posted By: cornucopia
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 05:47 PM
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That car is so toast. The untreated/painted metal in the car is probably paper thin by the time they treat it. I just can't see sombody killing off other mopars to fix one car.
I'm still waiting for the offical "flush" sound to put an end to this post!
I agree.. Push it back in the pit and bury it.. Somebody needs to put it out of its misery.
Looks like our resident gravedigger ( quickfish??) should be getting kudos on this subject.. He is the one who predicted it would be full of water and ruined....
the resident gravedigger would be me. and yes, it turned out just like I thought it would.
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:15 PM
Ya know one thing thats not been mentioned here is what the 57 can yield for us in terms of educating those that are into restoration. This car was brand new, as delivered from Plymouth. Even though its covered in rust and mud, it could be invaluable in showing us exactly how the factory assembled it. Things like proper routing of wire harnesses, under hood wire looms, plug wires etc. If they let people who are into this stuff examine and photograph everything in detail the old girl may be able to tell us things we never knew or were wrong about.
Just a thought.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:31 PM
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Ya know one thing thats not been mentioned here is what the 57 can yield for us in terms of educating those that are into restoration. This car was brand new, as delivered from Plymouth. Even though its covered in rust and mud, it could be invaluable in showing us exactly how the factory assembled it. Things like proper routing of wire harnesses, under hood wire looms, plug wires etc. If they let people who are into this stuff examine and photograph everything in detail the old girl may be able to tell us things we never knew or were wrong about. Just a thought.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:40 PM
wait, did someone say silverSS is back??
how ya doing??
Posted By: Spike
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 06:57 PM
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DC member that is there. Thanks Skued
No, the car will not be cleaned any further than it is now. The winner, if one is found will be announced June 22. If no winner comes forward next week the car will be held in trust for five years. Then the car will belong to the Tulsa Historical Society.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 07:01 PM
the car is toast.
its like winning the contest for a million box.
yup, you get a million boxes- not really ehat you wanted though was it?
Posted By: Big Bad Bee
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 08:30 PM
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Looks like our resident gravedigger ( quickfish??) should be getting kudos on this subject.. He is the one who predicted it would be full of water and ruined....
LOL I'm not the grave digger. I'm the roadant wrangler, remember? I am out of work. Maybe Cornucopia could get me on the night shift. He is a couple hours south of me down in Idaho's "Banana Belt".
I'm afraid that I was an optimist. I figured that the engineers would have done a better job sealing that vault. Disappointing. Especially if they knew about their underground moisture levels, composition, drainage and stuff. Beyond that, it's a cool history lesson. The fact that the film of that car was better preserved than the car itself should teach us something.
Interesting that they left the battery in and the terminals connected. Then again, it really doesn't matter now, does it?
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 08:36 PM
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wait, did someone say silverSS is back??
how ya doing??
I'm great!
Anyways I don't think anyone here has a right to say what to do with it. Someone is suppose to win this car. Now I hope they follow through with the original plan, could fall into the wrong hands, but thats how it goes sometimes. I would thing the new owner would trade it for a new one, maybe ebay it, or maybe donate it so more could see it.
As far as a collection to buy it, I have plenty of my own rust buckets here, count me out
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:08 PM
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wait, did someone say silverSS is back??
how ya doing??
I'm great!
Anyways I don't think anyone here has a right to say what to do with it. Someone is suppose to win this car. Now I hope they follow through with the original plan, could fall into the wrong hands, but thats how it goes sometimes. I would thing the new owner would trade it for a new one, maybe ebay it, or maybe donate it so more could see it.
As far as a collection to buy it, I have plenty of my own rust buckets here, count me out
The collection I mentioned was not to buy it, but to create a fund to aid in restoration/preservation.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:15 PM
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Ya know one thing thats not been mentioned here is what the 57 can yield for us in terms of educating those that are into restoration. This car was brand new, as delivered from Plymouth. Even though its covered in rust and mud, it could be invaluable in showing us exactly how the factory assembled it. Things like proper routing of wire harnesses, under hood wire looms, plug wires etc. If they let people who are into this stuff examine and photograph everything in detail the old girl may be able to tell us things we never knew or were wrong about. Just a thought.
Actually someone did....See my post concerning letting Boyd tear into it a few pages back.
Posted By: Runner2go
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:16 PM
After looking at those pictures I'm pretty sure the car would be in much better shape if they had just parked it on the courthouse lawn for the last 50yrs. I know the original towns people had there hearts in the right place, but its a shame the car had to sit in a whole and not get a chance to at least be a someones family car. At least they didn't decide to do it again with a Hemi Daytona or Gasp
a 71 hemi Vert
Oh well... Stuff Happens
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:18 PM
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The collection I mentioned was not to buy it, but to create a fund to aid in restoration/preservation.
Far too many posts to sift through to see what it was for exactly. I still say its up to the lucky winner. I personally couldnt stand letting it as is if it were mine. Id restore it, but I have no chance to win!
Posted By: BirdinPieces
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:18 PM
Instead of restoring it and burying it again, I say leave it "as is". Trade it for a new car from chrysler and have the new car buried in a new vault.
What car? I got a great one...
The first new challenger to come off the assembly line
They said they would trade ANY new car
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:47 PM
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Instead of restoring it and burying it again, I say leave it "as is". Trade it for a new car from chrysler and have the new car buried in a new vault.
What car? I got a great one...
The first new challenger to come off the assembly line
They said they would trade ANY new car
that would be ONE HECK OF A DEAL!!
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 09:57 PM
Y'know, this has been a great ride. All the commentary - positive and negative, concerning the car - and I think it is really cool, that for the most part, through 1200 posts - there has been a decent conducting of ourselves.
Pat on the back time, folks. And to the mods, thanks for enduring what I feel like has been the coolest thread on MOPARTS since, well, you know, that other one...
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 11:06 PM
So now I've left Tulsa and have some time to reflect on the weekend and a few of the posts here.
I don't know why there is so much disappointed energy running through this site. Sure, it would have been nice to see a nicely preserved car emerge from the hole, but that's not what happened. This event is about the optimism of the people of 1957 and the future of Tulsa, OK. This was before we became a nation as we know it today (48 states during that time). It was before the tragedy of Vietnam and subsequent wars. No feminist manifesto had ever been written yet. And this little frontier city did something that represented a quintessential moment for that time. It's all about our history and the celebration of America before she took that hit of LSD and got all weary. Now she's got crow's feet around her eyes and she's not as idealistic as she used to be, but she's also a better America for it. So why can't we recognize what just went down in Tulsa, OK instead of having to speculate, criticize, and what-not? I had a nice time, I enjoyed meeting Perry and Tim, and there even was a Shelby/Ford event that added to the fun. I wish more of you could have witnessed the unique experience instead of the tainted cuppa joe that seems to be eminating from this site.
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 11:23 PM
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So now I've left Tulsa and have some time to reflect on the weekend and a few of the posts here.
I don't know why there is so much disappointed energy running through this site. Sure, it would have been nice to see a nicely preserved car emerge from the hole, but that's not what happened. This event is about the optimism of the people of 1957 and the future of Tulsa, OK. This was before we became a nation as we know it today (48 states during that time). It was before the tragedy of Vietnam and subsequent wars. No feminist manifesto had ever been written yet. And this little frontier city did something that represented a quintessential moment for that time. It's all about our history and the celebration of America before she took that hit of LSD and got all weary. Now she's got crow's feet around her eyes and she's not as idealistic as she used to be, but she's also a better America for it. So why can't we recognize what just went down in Tulsa, OK instead of having to speculate, criticize, and what-not? I had a nice time, I enjoyed meeting Perry and Tim, and there even was a Shelby/Ford event that added to the fun. I wish more of you could have witnessed the unique experience instead of the tainted cuppa joe that seems to be eminating from this site.
Do you have a problem with freedom of speech? It sure seems that way. Everyone has a right to express their opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Diversity of opinion, and the freedom to express it, is what makes this country great.
Diego, pay no mind to the likes of DusterDave. I know he is exactly the type of person expounding all that negative energy that you were referring to.
Sounds like it was an awesome event and that you had a great time.
Posted By: StrokerPost
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/17/07 11:24 PM
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So now I've left Tulsa and have some time to reflect on the weekend and a few of the posts here.
I don't know why there is so much disappointed energy running through this site. Sure, it would have been nice to see a nicely preserved car emerge from the hole, but that's not what happened. This event is about the optimism of the people of 1957 and the future of Tulsa, OK. This was before we became a nation as we know it today (48 states during that time). It was before the tragedy of Vietnam and subsequent wars. No feminist manifesto had ever been written yet. And this little frontier city did something that represented a quintessential moment for that time. It's all about our history and the celebration of America before she took that hit of LSD and got all weary. Now she's got crow's feet around her eyes and she's not as idealistic as she used to be, but she's also a better America for it. So why can't we recognize what just went down in Tulsa, OK instead of having to speculate, criticize, and what-not? I had a nice time, I enjoyed meeting Perry and Tim, and there even was a Shelby/Ford event that added to the fun. I wish more of you could have witnessed the unique experience instead of the tainted cuppa joe that seems to be eminating from this site.
WOW! If I didnt know better I'd think you were a columnist for a newspaper or something. Very well said, but, car people and their opinions are as diff as the cars they love. I tend to agree with you, this was a VERY cool event, but it wasnt about the car, it was about Tulsa OK and its people. Heres to all you Okies.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:04 AM
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I know he is exactly the type of person expounding all that negative energy that you were referring to.
Maybe so.
Either way, the issue of freedom of speech involves the government and its power to restrict the expression of the people, so what he said is pretty much moot. He's just looking for some way in to knock me.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:06 AM
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I don't know why there is so much disappointed energy running through this site.
ummmm, cause the car is a rusted heap and everyone was hoping for a nice shiney car to come out.
Thats what dissapointment is- expecting or hoping for something and getting something thats destroyed.
other than that, Im glad they had fun!
Posted By: amxautox
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:15 AM
Anyone hear who won the car? And what they are gonna do with it?
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:33 AM
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Ya know one thing thats not been mentioned here is what the 57 can yield for us in terms of educating those that are into restoration. This car was brand new, as delivered from Plymouth. Even though its covered in rust and mud, it could be invaluable in showing us exactly how the factory assembled it. Things like proper routing of wire harnesses, under hood wire looms, plug wires etc. If they let people who are into this stuff examine and photograph everything in detail the old girl may be able to tell us things we never knew or were wrong about. Just a thought.
I was thinking along those lines. Think of the parts this thing has on it that would be perfect models to make reproductions, like the trim? How often is the trim on a used one perfect? It would also be a good one to have the fenders and quarters digitally mapped for possible future reproduction.
Posted By: aarcuda
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:41 AM
im sure there must be better models to use than that one.
Posted By: Spike
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:47 AM
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Anyone hear who won the car? And what they are gonna do with it?
The winner, if one is found will be announced June 22.
Posted By: minivan
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:48 AM
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That car is so toast. The untreated/painted metal in the car is probably paper thin by the time they treat it. I just can't see sombody killing off other mopars to fix one car.
I'm still waiting for the offical "flush" sound to put an end to this post!
I agree.. Push it back in the pit and bury it.. Somebody needs to put it out of its misery.
Looks like our resident gravedigger ( quickfish??) should be getting kudos on this subject.. He is the one who predicted it would be full of water and ruined....
the resident gravedigger would be me. and yes, it turned out just like I thought it would.
Excuse me Mr. Cornucopia.. I had my Idaho people confused.. I, like many others, wished you were wrong but it looks like you were spot on..
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:56 AM
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Do you have a problem with freedom of speech? It sure seems that way. Everyone has a right to express their opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Diversity of opinion, and the freedom to express it, is what makes this country great.
Its never a problem when they agree with you! But of course some opionions mean more than others(or so they think)!
Posted By: Lee1
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 12:59 AM
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im sure there must be better models to use than that one.
I am not sure about that. While it is rusted, it is still straight. That means more than anything when trying to map those details out. The contours, bodylines, trim, is all virgin.
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Posted By: badblack68
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 01:35 AM
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I know he is exactly the type of person expounding all that negative energy that you were referring to.
That's me, Mr. Negative Energy!!
I say, the winner of that rotted-out rust bucket should take the car completely apart, and sell it piece by piece on ebay! "Step right up, folks, and buy a piece of Tulsa history!" Heck, they could scrape the mud and rust off that turd and sell it by the ounce! I'll bid on the negative battery post, since I'm such a negative guy.
I have to agree with Duster Dave . If I were the one to win it I`d part it out piece by piece and buy myself a big ole 528 C.I. HEMI for my 68. Problem is, even selling it off piece by piece you wouldn`t get enough for a down payment on a big ole 528 C.I. HEMI. They should have raised the car out of the hole, assessed its condition, then dropped it right back in its grave and back filled it with red dirt. That car is toast and should have been left to Rust In Piece...
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 01:37 AM
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I know he is exactly the type of person expounding all that negative energy that you were referring to.
That's me, Mr. Negative Energy!!
I say, the winner of that rotted-out rust bucket should take the car completely apart, and sell it piece by piece on ebay! "Step right up, folks, and buy a piece of Tulsa history!" Heck, they could scrape the mud and rust off that turd and sell it by the ounce! I'll bid on the negative battery post, since I'm such a negative guy.
Your quote being stated, I'd bet you'd win, too...
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 02:10 AM
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I don't know why there is so much disappointed energy running through this site.
Could be the condition of the car was not what was hoped.
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Sure, it would have been nice to see a nicely preserved car emerge from the hole, but that's not what happened.
Get outta here!
No really, GET OUTTA HERE!
hahaha
We all know it's the hope-vs-reality thing, I think everybody here has figured it out by themselves already.
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This event is about the optimism of the people of 1957 and the future of Tulsa, OK.
Not for me it wasn't. It wasn't for many people. For many people it was optimism that a 1957 Plymouth *might* have a chance at coming out of a time capsule in "as built" condition. It was a very small chance that it would happen that way, and odds were against it. Odds won.
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This was before we became a nation as we know it today (48 states during that time). It was before the tragedy of Vietnam and subsequent wars. No feminist manifesto had ever been written yet. And this little frontier city did something that represented a quintessential moment for that time. It's all about our history and the celebration of America before she took that hit of LSD and got all weary. Now she's got crow's feet around her eyes and she's not as idealistic as she used to be, but she's also a better America for it.
Are you trying to be an aspiring writer for a local newspaper? Harlequin automotive journalist?
Nobody cares about the above. Well, I don't anyways....
It was about the CAR for me. I'm a CAR guy. The locals have a different perspective I'm sure, but this is a MOPAR forum, not a local Tulsa forum. Many followed the story for years because of the car.
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I wish more of you could have witnessed the unique experience instead of the tainted cuppa joe that seems to be eminating from this site.
I think alot of people would have regretted NOT going if it came up in great shape, I think alot of people are GLAD they never went down after seeing what transpired on the live feed. Condition of the car, etc....
The "tainted cuppa joe" is due to the guys here being CAR guys. Many wanted, wished, and hoped for a trophy to come out of that hole, despite all odds.
Disappointment is the OBVIOUS reaction.
Among the CAR guys.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 02:17 AM
BTW- Did anybody else notice the very first guess read by the male emcee was very close to the actual population #? I wonder if ALL the guesses will ever be made public, just to see the range of what people thought back in 1957...
I wonder who won dangit!
Posted By: DUFFMAN
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 02:26 AM
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The "tainted cuppa joe" is due to the guys here being CAR guys. Many wanted, wished, and hoped for a trophy to come out of that hole, despite all odds.
Disappointment is the OBVIOUS reaction.
Among the CAR guys.
Nail on head.
It's a tragic end to a really interesting story. Lets all just hope that the car gets into the right hands and the epiloge is better.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 02:28 AM
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It's a tragic end to a really interesting story. Lets all just hope that the car gets into the right hands and the epiloge is better.
My interest is exactly as you state, to see what happens to the car from this point on.
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 03:44 AM
I must say I was saddened to see it come out the way it did. I really wanted to see a pristine car but oh well.
I have to wonder. They buried the Belvadere and a Prowler too..
..Who's got it out for the Plymouths? Couldn't they bury a chevy?
Well I guess nobody would care to dig one of them up.
Me I would restore it taking care to use every single part I could from the original car, but hey I don't own it and that's OK. I don't need another project anyway.
As for those who say it should be crushed, no way will that happen. There are people all over the place thinking of buying it. The owner will probably sell it for a heck of alot more than scrapmetal prices would net him.
I hope it does end up preserved in some way. Either as is or restored, there are enough cars rusting away as we speak. Some of them in my driveway
Posted By: Not_A_Duster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 03:47 AM
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The "tainted cuppa joe" is due to the guys here being CAR guys. Many wanted, wished, and hoped for a trophy to come out of that hole, despite all odds.
Disappointment is the OBVIOUS reaction.
Among the CAR guys.
Nail on head.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 03:50 AM
I see the Peanut Gallery is present.
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The "tainted cuppa joe" is due to the guys here being CAR guys. Many wanted, wished, and hoped for a trophy to come out of that hole, despite all odds.
Disappointment is the OBVIOUS reaction.
Among the CAR guys.
That's not what I was talking about, but I appreciate the devotion to an elaborate response. Keep on truckin'!
Posted By: calmopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 03:52 AM
They just need to take it to Andy Granatelli's Tune Up Masters.
I think a new cap and rotor should do it.
Posted By: IMGTX
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 03:59 AM
I think there are a few more miles left on that fan belt.
Posted By: Not_A_Duster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:01 AM
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Peanut Gallery
Funny how quickly you resort to insults when others look at things differently than you do.
This may come as a suprise to you, but not everyone sees you as the "Authority" on pretty much everything that you see yourself as.
Posted By: Not_A_Duster
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:04 AM
That's just a sad picture....
It's really too bad - it would have been cool to see it come out alive...
Posted By: calmopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:16 AM
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That's just a sad picture....
It's really too bad - it would have been cool to see it come out alive...
Yeah... so how's this for an idea:
Restore HALF the car, going lengthwise. Sure, it wouldn't run, but it would be pretty cool (I think) to have say, the driver's side completely restored while leaving the passenger's side as is -- interior, exterior, engine compartment, etc.
I'd enjoy seeing something like that.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:19 AM
interesting way to do the car. I think that would be more difficult than a full resto trying to preserve the as removed side.
Posted By: calmopar
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:22 AM
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interesting way to do the car. I think that would be more difficult than a full resto trying to preserve the as removed side.
Oh for sure, it would be REALLY tough. It's a much bigger challenge then gutting it, welding on tons of new metal, throwing in a new interior, parts, etc.
Posted By: Silver70
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:24 AM
You mean putting the vin on another car
Or building around a vin tag like some rust buckets here
Posted By: 440maxwedge
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:26 AM
I just got back tonight from Tulsa. It was a shame to see Miss Belvedere in that condition, but I witnessed one of the best car shows I've ever been to. My wife and I had a wonderful time, the city was very supportive, everyone was very nice, and the best representation of '57-'58 Plymouths I've ever seen in one place. Glad I went!!Great weekend!
Posted By: epaul
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:27 AM
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Instead of restoring it and burying it again, I say leave it "as is". Trade it for a new car from chrysler and have the new car buried in a new vault.
What car? I got a great one...
No, really interesting, If a car guy gets it why not? It would be great if they had something else to "dig" up in the future. Heck put the SS prototype in a uhhh crypt (hopefully waterproof for sure" for the future.
I can see it now: After "blank" years we will reveal the Plymouth Prowler and a one of a kind one off Challenger concept. Why not?
The first new challenger to come off the assembly line
They said they would trade ANY new car
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:28 AM
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This may come as a suprise to you....
Well, I was there, so doncha think that counts for something? And others were there and agree with me.
This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. Please don't pretend to know what I am thinking, and please try - TRY! - to see the bright side of this event instead of succumbing to the grumpiness that seems to be the nature of some people. 
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:40 AM
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Excuse me Mr. Cornucopia.. I had my Idaho people confused.. I, like many others, wished you were wrong but it looks like you were spot on..
I never doubted his wisdom
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:47 AM
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Yeah... so how's this for an idea:
Restore HALF the car, going lengthwise. Sure, it wouldn't run, but it would be pretty cool (I think) to have say, the driver's side completely restored while leaving the passenger's side as is -- interior, exterior, engine compartment, etc.
I'd enjoy seeing something like that.
Yea, that would be cool, probably easiest to cut it right down the center with a big saw and restore the one half (likely the drivers side since that's where allot of asemetrical gear is located, steering wheel, etc.)
Posted By: jlbex
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 04:52 AM
I had a gut feeling that this car was going to be rough when they yanked it out of that hole, but I was hoping for the best. I understand that this event was about more that just a 57 Plymouth, but as a car guy that is what I am most interested in (sorry, that may sound bad but its the truth). What I dont understand about some of the folks replying to this thread is, why would you pull the trigger and just junk this car when you really dont know what kind of shape it is really in? I have looked at the pics and seen some parts that are clearly junked out, but until it is cleaned off and put under a microscope, it cant just be written off. When was the last time that any of us bought a PROJECT that did not need parts replaced. Heck, most of the junk I have drug home looks unsavable until its cleaned up. Hopefully if the new owner of this car does not have the where with all to make something of it, they pass it off to capable hands. If the car is fixable it should be fixed. If it is too far gone, then it should be cleaned up and displayed as a piece of Tulsa history (and a reminder of how not to store a car
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Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 05:31 AM
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This may come as a suprise to you....
Well, I was there, so doncha think that counts for something? And others were there and agree with me.
Hahaha
Funny, how many times have you said before- "EXPERIENCE MEANS NOTHING".
LOL
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 05:39 AM
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I see the Peanut Gallery is present.
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The "tainted cuppa joe" is due to the guys here being CAR guys. Many wanted, wished, and hoped for a trophy to come out of that hole, despite all odds.
Disappointment is the OBVIOUS reaction.
Among the CAR guys.
That's not what I was talking about, but I appreciate the devotion to an elaborate response. Keep on truckin'!
Yeah, the "peanut gallery" is here.
I read what you were talking about, it was "Vietnam", "subsequent wars", "feminist manifestos", "America before she took that hit of LSD", you name it.
Nothing of relevance, just spewing from a guy trying to be thought of as a writer of some sort, correct me if I'm wrong.
Unless "Vietnam" has something to do with this thread in any way....
Read and try to understand OTHERS. Not insult and impose your opinions.
I don't find much of what you have written relevant, and what you wrote about personal experience I find highly hypocritical, considering your past posts.
This event was about THE PLYMOUTH for many around the world. Not the high school yearbooks, not the contents of a woman's purse, THE CAR.
Many are disappointed because of the outcome, and many are "negative" because it was a negative outcome.
Understandably so IMO.
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: Official Tulsa Buried 57 Plymouth Raising Thread 6- - 06/18/07 07:44 AM
Okey dokey....I think we're done here....
