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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/21/09 03:47 PM
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The valley! I am sure I saw you run. It was a pretty good turnout Friday night.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: juicedcuda]
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07/21/09 04:34 PM
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U.S. 60 Friday...That is an old pic from the valley though.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/21/09 07:59 PM
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Get rid of the M/T and put a set of GoodYears or Hoosiers on it. My dragster would not go 60' with the M/T tires it shook so bad,it would bounce the tires like a T/F dragster. Mine is a hardtail dragster, and I am only trying to help save you some trouble with the tires. That is not meant to bash the M/T tires they just don't work on a dragster. Maybe we can help each other out as we get our dragsters going. There are no Mopar powered dragsters around here to share info. with.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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07/21/09 09:59 PM
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I have one, but single dominator on E85. 572 B1 World aluminum block, 15 to 1, Jesel belt drive, rockers, 10" BTE convertor 5200 stall here, 1850 lbs. It runs 7.70@173 in 7200 feet, but I haven't had this deal at sea level yet. 1.10 60 ft, and I would be willing to trade info if it helps you dragster guys. I wonder how much the tunnel ram helps?
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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07/22/09 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Get rid of the M/T and put a set of GoodYears or Hoosiers on it. My dragster would not go 60' with the M/T tires it shook so bad,it would bounce the tires like a T/F dragster. Mine is a hardtail dragster, and I am only trying to help save you some trouble with the tires. That is not meant to bash the M/T tires they just don't work on a dragster.
So he goes out and wins on his first outing, is super consistent, and you advise him to get rid of the tires that he just won on.. 
Yeah, that makes sense to me.. 
Chris.. 
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: camastomcat]
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07/22/09 08:38 AM
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I have one, but single dominator on E85. 572 B1 World aluminum block, 15 to 1, Jesel belt drive, rockers, 10" BTE convertor 5200 stall here, 1850 lbs. It runs [Email]7.70@173[/Email] in 7200 feet, but I haven't had this deal at sea level yet. 1.10 60 ft, and I would be willing to trade info if it helps you dragster guys. I wonder how much the tunnel ram helps?
Looks like way to tight of a convertor...Mine's the TCI pro -x 9 1/2" thats going to 6100 and it could stand to be a little looser but i just dont really want to shift above 7000.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/22/09 11:01 AM
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I have a 8" ATI treemaster in mine. ATI set it up for my engine but they said I needed a 9". So mine may be to loose. After the M/T I over tired the car with some 1490's(if it can't spin em it can't shake em  ). I now have the GoodYear 33.5(Pro-Stock) tire with 4:29 gears in the rear-end. I have only made 1 run a few weeks ago with them and it rained. But on that run my air shifter did not shift(out of air,not the first time but it was the last time)but I had a 1.04 60' my best with the 1490's 1.06. I have an elec. shift in dragster now and hope to get some better times this weekend. M/T tires and Co2 shifters just do not work for me.  But maybe we can all help each other on tune ups other info.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
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07/22/09 12:16 PM
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camastomcat
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I have a 8" ATI treemaster in mine. ATI set it up for my engine but they said I needed a 9". So mine may be to loose.
After the M/T I over tired the car with some 1490's(if it can't spin em it can't shake em ). I now have the GoodYear 33.5(Pro-Stock) tire with 4:29 gears in the rear-end. I have only made 1 run a few weeks ago with them and it rained. But on that run my air shifter did not shift(out of air,not the first time but it was the last time)but I had a 1.04 60' my best with the 1490's 1.06. I have an elec. shift in dragster now and hope to get some better times this weekend.
M/T tires and Co2 shifters just do not work for me.
But maybe we can all help each other on tune ups other info.
How loose and do you folks race 1/4 mile at all? I would like to go a little looser, but I am unsure how much.
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/22/09 01:00 PM
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I have not run mine on a 1/4 mile either. ATI said I might could get by on a 1/8 mile track the converter is not locked up at the 1/8 mile. But may not work for a full 1/4 mile. I hope to change converters over the winter. Bu if it keeps breaking parts may not have the $$$$ to change this winter. Now would be a good time for me to ask which conveter(company and size) is best for the dragster? I have been told by a fellow racer who runs and wins a lot of S/C races. That ATI is one of the best converter's made,but he thinks they don't deal with enough dragsters to set them up like they need to be. He thinks Hughes may be the best for a dragster. Again not trying to bash anyones parts,this is my 2nd ATI and I brought it for another engine. So they are not to blame for me having the wrong size converter,it was right for the other engine. But it would be nice to know maybe not who makes the best converter,but who has the best one for the dragsters. If we can help each other get the right(best) parts the 1st time maybe we all could run better and save a little $$$$$$ 
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: camastomcat]
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07/23/09 08:26 AM
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Hi Guys, need some help. I have been running Mopars for 25 yrs,but this is my first engine with aluminum heads, block, rods and I am not sure if I have a problem or not.
What oil pressure does your engines have cold then hot?
My dragster sit a little over 4 yrs till last year. I had a battle with cancer and was down for a while. The Auto Meter sports comp gauge was also about 8-10 yrs old so it may have been wrong.
But the engine had a 100 lbs of oil pressure cold and you could raise the idle just a hair and it would go up to 120 lbs. when hot was 80 lbs and would go to 100 lbs. when you hit the throttle. I was told that was to much. Well a week are so ago the oil pressure went down to 60-80 cold and 30 hot did not rev it at 30 lbs. to see if would go up. Put a new Auto Meter Pro-Comp on yesterday still has the same oil pressure @ 170 @ idle about 28 lbs. again shut it off with out rapping the throttle to see if it would go up.
Is this normal or do I have a problem? THANKS
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/23/09 10:25 AM
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THANKS!!!! sc301v, I have a system 1 oil filter when you clean the filter you can see some shiney aluminum and bronze particles in the oil not a whole lot,I would like to see none. The engine is still fairly new and it has had some the 4-5 times I have changed the oil. This time it had a little more bronze than before,so I may take a look at the bronze gear on the dist. just to be safe. It is nice to have some other Mopar people to run ideas by. Thanks Guys
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: sc301v]
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07/23/09 10:54 AM
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1995 S&W hard tail here. Car weighs 1880 with me in it. Engine is race gas 493, 280@.050 roller cam, Indy EZ-1 heads (330 CFM), 13.5 compression (ross 14cc domed pistons), single dominator on an Indy -2 mainifold. Rear end is a Ford 9" with 4.30's and a 33.5x17 tire. Transmission is a JW 1.76 geared glide, converter is an 8" JW stalling at about 5400. 1/4 mile times are in the 8.30's with trap speeds of 159 to 160 @ 7500 RPM. 60 times are 1.18. 1/8th mile is 5.30's at about 129. All times are at about 2800 to 3000 ft DA We mopar dragster guys need to share some information. Not many of us around. My car seems a little slow to me. Do you think I need more stall? I was expecting to be closer to 8.0 than 8.3. Bob Spelic
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
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07/23/09 11:11 AM
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first thing I would do is take the wing off. that could be .1 right there. what is your launch, shift and trap rpm?
edit, I see trap rpm of 7500, sounds like too much for that mild a combo??
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
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07/23/09 11:34 AM
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MegaDart, mine has a wing also,maybe not as tall as his. Mine is about 5' or a little more from the ground to the top. My dragster has a 218" W.B. and will run in the low 140's in the 1/8 mile all of our tracks run only 1/8 mile for the weekly Bracket Races. I have only made a few runs with the big engine at this MPH. With the 451 engine it run in the mid to high 120's. It has always handled good,well after I put about 35 lbs in the nose with the big engine. But I would like to pick up a tenth by taking the wing off mine also. Do you think it would be safe to do on my dragster with the short 218"WB? THANKS
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Re: Raced my 572 finally the 1st time and won
[Re: camastomcat]
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07/23/09 04:11 PM
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I pulled the bronze gear out,the teeth look fine. But under(bottom) the bronze gear is nice a shiney and has a good bit of wear,also where it sets in the bushing in the block the shaft also has some wearlooks like it has been sanded with sandpaper (very small ridges or grooves)if you could hold it straight. Looks like it may have had to much pressure or downforce on it,and it looks like the bushing has tighten up on the shaft. Going back to see if I can figure out what has gone wrong.
Thanks for the info. camastomcat thats makes me feel a lot better.
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thread for us nutty dragster guys for information.
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