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Intake porting, help me pick one #381274
07/20/09 05:43 PM
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looking at having my smallblock Super Victor done this winter and need some good suggestion's on who can do me a good job at a fair and reasonable price.


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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381275
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looking at having my smallblock Super Victor done this winter and need some good suggestion's on who can do me a good job at a fair and reasonable price.





Bill, I got a and can take care of you for a 12pk reasonable enough


Russ

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: max_maniac] #381276
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looking at having my smallblock Super Victor done this winter and need some good suggestion's on who can do me a good job at a fair and reasonable price.





Bill, I got a and can take care of you for a 12pk reasonable enough


Russ


How about a 6 pak and a new pack of blade's for the ?


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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381277
07/20/09 06:16 PM
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Try to get up with Vic S/ST3040 he has spent a lot of time grinding on them

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381278
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Bill I could make it look like this

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: MR_P_BODY] #381279
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then a little bondo and it'll be perfect

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: MR_P_BODY] #381280
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Man I hope you caught the kids that cut up your stuff Mike

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: MR_P_BODY] #381281
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Bill I could make it look like this





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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381282
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anyone ever heard of or had any dealing with Dr J's Performance, seem to be popular with some of the Engine Master guy's.


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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381283
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Yeah......Bryce Mulvey

BTW.......I can't do an intake without, at least one head.

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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: S/ST 3040] #381284
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That would depend on if I have to pull it apart after I do a leakdown this fall, I really don't want to unless it's necessary,,,,,but you never know


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Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: dartman366] #381285
07/20/09 10:49 PM
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anyone ever heard of or had any dealing with Dr J's Performance, seem to be popular with some of the Engine Master guy's.




Funny you should mention him...

We are re-doing an engine he assembled for a guy a couple of hours away from us.
He used Indy cnc -2 heads, and an Indy intake that Dr. J ported like the above photo's show.
I flowed his head, then added my Indy intake that hasn't been ported yet, then flowed Dr. J's intake, then flowed a new victor intake that I ported for this engine (we are changing things because this engine did not make HP!).

The victor flowed identical to the Indy that Dr. J did up till .500 where it flowed 4 cfm better than the Dr. J indy. The indy intake did start to outflow the victor at .600 but only by 5 cfm. And we are only running .615 lift max, so that is irrelevant.

If you looked at this intake, you would swear that the Indy ported by them, or hell just OOTB would KILL the victor, ported or not...but it didn't!
And lets just say that the porting I did to the victor only took me about 4 hours...We are leaving the intake tract small because the customer wants TQ down low....lots of TQ.

Unless you TEST the things you plan to use, you really just don't know what you have.
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Brian Hafliger
Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: Brian Hafliger] #381286
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Brian.....are you going to be able to do any before/after dyno
pulls or are you having to re-do other stuff too?

Re: Intake porting, help me pick one [Re: S/ST 3040] #381287
07/21/09 12:06 AM
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No real need to. He dyno'd it at Westech a couple of months ago. He supplied me with the dyno sheets, and all the build info.
Let me say this: whoever did the machine work should stay away from engines!!

This engine has dyno time only, and after we took it apart, we found some really crappy machine work and assembly detail (or lack of).
The bores were so out of round and tapered the skirts of the pistons (which are brand new)looked like the engine had been run dirt track and overheated mulitple times!!
I have a list of things that were wrong, damaged, done improperly, etc...
Just changing out the Indy intake valves for Ferrea gained considerable (around 30)cfm and picked up the velocity in the ports.

They used head studs which located the head incorrectly and when they tightened the head down, it gouged both dowel holes in the head, pulling the head off to one side! On both sides of the engine!!!!!
I will be dynoing the engine after we're done, and I'll post pics and some info.
I know this sounds alot like a bash, sorry for that. But I can't believe the things that were wrong.
I guess even magazines can't make you good!!


Brian Hafliger






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