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How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... #359674
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Here is a pic of my carb and throttle linkage that I am trying to hook up. I can stick the throttle cable into the cable adjuster on the carb and tighten it but when I depress the gas pedal it will only open the throttle blades about 3/4 of the way open and not full throttle.

I dont want to cut the cable too short and possibly mess it up which I hope that I havent already done. At the base of the carb are the other pieces that came with the throttle cable,but I am not sure if I need them with my setup as my car is a 4speed.

Is anybody else running this same setup that can post a pic of theirs or give a tip on installing it?


Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359675
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You need to shorten the cable covering. Pull the cable into the housing far enough so you won't cut it and cut the woven cover back about an inch. That should give you the extra cable you need exposed. Easiest way to cut that cover is to wrap it with tape where you want to cut.and cut through the taped area. That will keep the cover from fraying when you cut it with a hacksaw.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: stumpy] #359676
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In this pic the gas pedal is to the floor but the throttle blades are not fully open and are not straight up and down...but as you can see there is still about 1/4inch or so of travel left in the cable!

I took out some padding underneath the gas pedal thinking that it was stopping it from going to the floor but that did not fix it but made it a little better.

Anybody have any tips on how to fix this? By the way I barely got my cable to slide into the cable adjuster at the carb meaning that it may have been cut too short...but that cannot be if I still have 1/4 in of travel...correct?



Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359677
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Most aftermarket carb throttle linkage is designed for chevrolet... Holley sells an adapter to hook up Mopar linkage Pt # 20-7
$7.95 from Summit...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-20-7/?image=large


Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #359678
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Clamping it like you are doing is wrong. You need to go back and read the instructions because you need to use the parts that came with the cable kit. The small sleeve goes over the end of the shortened housing to be clamped down at the bracket. The barrel with the adjuster is replaced with the piece you have on the carb that you attached the cable to.

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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: stumpy] #359679
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Clamping it like you are doing is wrong. You need to go back and read the instructions because you need to use the parts that came with the cable kit. The small sleeve goes over the end of the shortened housing to be clamped down at the bracket. The barrel with the adjuster is replaced with the piece you have on the carb that you attached the cable to.




The barrel adjuster in the pic that is on the carb came with the throttle cable kit and so did those two other small parts in the pic that are on the piece of paper.

The small sleeve on the piece of paper in the pic is larger in diameter than the braided line so that braided line still slips through that sleeve no matter what.

But none of that matters if I am still not getting the throtte blades to open up fully when I step on the gas and there is still that 1/2 inch or so of slack left in cable travel.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359680
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You already have the answer you need, to open the throttle further you need to move the cable attach point lower on the carb throttle lever, the piece pictured will do that.


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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #359681
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Most aftermarket carb throttle linkage is designed for chevrolet... Holley sells an adapter to hook up Mopar linkage Pt # 20-7
$7.95 from Summit...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-20-7/?image=large






I am not sure how that adapter would solve the cable travel issue.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359682
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The throttle stud that comes in the throttle bracket kit that you purchased goes in a different hole. You have your stud mounted in the Chevy linkage hole which gives you the wrong lever ratio. Look at the instructions that came with the throttle bracket kit.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: AndyF] #359683
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the stud goes into the hole you have your springs in, not the upper hole.
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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: dc426] #359684
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my return spring/throttle cable arrangement is reversed from yours


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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: landon1] #359685
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Excellent guys! I changed the stud location and now it operates the carb as it should as I have it installed in this pic!

But what about the extra parts that are on the green piece of paper? Do I even need them since the cable is working properly now?

That cable hold down on the bracket doesnt clamp down on the cable very tight at all.. but the cable doesnt move anywhere so I dont see the worry in that.


Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359686
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that looks better! looks much cleaner than mine (auto)

maybe put a washer underneath the hold-down? possibly get a piece of sleeving to thicken the cable just in that area...


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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359687
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Excellent guys! I changed the stud location and now it operates the carb as it should as I have it installed in this pic!

But what about the extra parts that are on the green piece of paper? Do I even need them since the cable is working properly now?

That cable hold down on the bracket doesnt clamp down on the cable very tight at all.. but the cable doesnt move anywhere so I dont see the worry in that.






Looks like a good start there. But if ou want to put this issue to bed get the lokar cable mounting kit that bolts to the left rear carb stud that is listed on summit as a related part to the cable. And of course get a lokar cable for the trans kickdown (which bolts to the same bracket alongside it). Then you will have your clamping and geometry all done up right, and you will not have to worry about trying to jimmyrig it with the factory cable bracket.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: GreenBlurr] #359688
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Excellent guys! I changed the stud location and now it operates the carb as it should as I have it installed in this pic!

But what about the extra parts that are on the green piece of paper? Do I even need them since the cable is working properly now?

That cable hold down on the bracket doesnt clamp down on the cable very tight at all.. but the cable doesnt move anywhere so I dont see the worry in that.






Looks like a good start there. But if ou want to put this issue to bed get the lokar cable mounting kit that bolts to the left rear carb stud that is listed on summit as a related part to the cable. And of course get a lokar cable for the trans kickdown (which bolts to the same bracket alongside it). Then you will have your clamping and geometry all done up right, and you will not have to worry about trying to jimmyrig it with the factory cable bracket.




Nope I dont think I want to start new with a whole different bracket kit. Besides my car is a 4 speed and it seems you are talking auto bracketry. Thanks anyway but I will keep this MagnumHP throttle cable bracket as it works just fine now.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #359689
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You really need to fix the clamp setup correctly. It will start to loosen up on you as you drive and when you continue to tighten it to stop that you will hang the throttle and be in big trouble. It's your deal but it wouldn't take much to do it right and save that pretty motor and the car. A hung throttle can really do some serious damage. We are telling you this from our experience in trying do it on the cheap and easy. It doesn't work. Lokar doesn't supply those parts just to fill the box.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: stumpy] #359690
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You really need to fix the clamp setup correctly. It will start to loosen up on you as you drive and when you continue to tighten it to stop that you will hang the throttle and be in big trouble. It's your deal but it wouldn't take much to do it right and save that pretty motor and the car. A hung throttle can really do some serious damage. We are telling you this from our experience in trying do it on the cheap and easy. It doesn't work. Lokar doesn't supply those parts just to fill the box.




That braided sleeve cant move forward because it has a crimped end that is sandwich bolted at the firewall and it cant move backward because it bolts to and ends at the firewall. It cannot move in either direction.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: stumpy] #359691
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lets see a pic of the left over parts.
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Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: dc426] #359692
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lets see a pic of the left over parts.
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The left over parts are in the last pic on that green piece of paper on the intake.

Re: How to hook up this throttle cable to my 950HP carb.... [Re: dc426] #359693
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That and if you go to the track that single spring wont get past a good tech guy.Has to be 2 return springs.Rocky


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