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15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers #359213
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I am trying to get a little more information on some of the 15x7 steel wheels. I know the rare ones are the 450 wheels. What is the full part number and where do i look to find it?

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: 1Fryedfish] #359214
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Here, by the valve stem 2944450

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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: mccannix] #359215
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Don't the real early ones (summer of '69 date codes) have no part number on them?

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: Mastershake340] #359216
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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #359217
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then how do you tell if its a 450 wheel with no part #

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: JACKSON] #359218
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The 450's have their little nuances, I guess you just need to inspect some and get to know them pretty well to ID.
I need to refer to pictures of them (or dig up one of the ones I have stored away for my T/A) to compare to a wheel I'm trying to ID myself!
Here is one of mine for reference.

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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: Mastershake340] #359219
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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: Mastershake340] #359220
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They are also some later (cosmetically incorrect) reproductions out there that have had the correct part# stamped into them so be careful to know the subtle shape differences when shopping.

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #359221
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Did anyone ever hear anything more from Paul Petco about the repros they were looking at doing? He was looking to do the 15x6 H wheels first, to be followed by 15x7 450s. I haven't heard anything in the past couple years. I wonder if the project was another victim of the economy?

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: JACKSON] #359222
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Quote:

then how do you tell if its a 450 wheel with no part #


Once you get to know their characteristics you can spot one pretty quickly. If no tire is mounted is you'll see that the center is like this in depth, same as a rallye wheel.
The later common 15x7's like from a Diplomat will be nowhere near as deep in the center.

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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: mccannix] #359223
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...and then there's the very uncommonly seen 15x7 070 rim from 1973 that shares all the same characteristics as a 450, a virtual twin...except for the number and date codes

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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: mccannix] #359224
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They are tough to find,(at a reasonable price). I spent the better part of the last 10 years rounding up a set for my Hemi Challenger. Finally got them all together.

Not to derail the post, but how rare is a '70 B body with "450" steelies??

MB

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: HPMike] #359225
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Hey Mike,
Your car looks great with them! Russell did a nice job matching the paint too...

Rick

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: HPMike] #359226
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Quote:

They are tough to find,(at a reasonable price). I spent the better part of the last 10 years rounding up a set for my Hemi Challenger. Finally got them all together.

Not to derail the post, but how rare is a '70 B body with "450" steelies??

MB




They are as hard to round up as a set of H wheels, I have only found 1 in 10 years. I got real lucky getting my set of H wheels in about a 2 year span.


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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #359227
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The most common place I found and bought 450 wheels over the years when owners knew little about them, was from the trunk of 15 inch 71-2 B-bodies. They carried a G-60-15 Goodyear Polyglas.
The last single 450 wheel I found was 2 years ago.
I visited a guy's farm who I knew had quite a few Mopars in his day but had been away from them for years.
Asked him if he had any plain 15x7 rims laying around.
He pointed to the field and said he thought there was one there if I could get it off this vehicle he hadn't been using for years.
I had my doubts but as I got closer to it I couldn't believe what I was seeing, a 450 rim!
Seized on the hub, I spent 1/2 an hour with a sledge hammer to the tire but I wasn't going home without it.
It was on an old 8 1/4 rearend that was powering a manure spreader and that is no BS!!

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: mccannix] #359228
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450 wheels are much harder to find than H wheels because you can't cheat and take them off station wagons and C-bodies. They only came on razoo muscle cars.

I scrounged about 50 '69 H-wheels in the last 5 years, compared to only 3 450 wheels and 1 070 wheel.

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: DoctorDiff] #359229
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I've been casually looking for 450s for about tens years. I've only come across two that were available for a reasonable price. One was a spare out of a 70 sixpack RR that was scrapped long ago. The owner had kept the spare in his garage for 30 years or so. It was in perfect "survivor" condition and is now in my friend's 70 hemi Charger. I was with another friend walking through a junk yard when he spied and old polyglas tire laying in the dirt. He flipped it over, and low and behold, a nice 450 rim. I think the yard charged him $25. We found 3 H wheels in that yard as well.

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: HPMike] #359230
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Quote:

They are tough to find,(at a reasonable price). I spent the better part of the last 10 years rounding up a set for my Hemi Challenger. Finally got them all together.

Not to derail the post, but how rare is a '70 B body with "450" steelies??

I have a 70 V-code RR (TX9, auto) coded for '450' wheels. Gorgeous 'ginger' Challenger! Any more pics?

Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: TiMopar] #359231
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I have two of the 450 wheels that were bought in 70 for my slicks and used a few times what would they sell for ???
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Re: 15x7 steel Wheels 450 part numbers [Re: westfort] #359232
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People ask 400-500 each for nice ones with good dates. I have no ideaa if they actually sell at that price in this market. Sadly, that's out of my league...but I'll pay less

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