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think i need an oil cooler? #357764
06/25/09 05:06 PM
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hi, been driving my 493ci Imperial around in the hot weather, then watching the light flicker and the oil pressure dropping to ~15# at idle after a long freeway run. the car has the original (5qt?) c-body pan, HP pump, 20w50 oil. i was thinking a cooler would help with the temp of course and add some capacity to the sump.

i've been looking at the Canton spin on adapters, has anoybody done this on a bb and is it better to just relocate the filter too, maybe add a 2nd filter, then what size cooler would you recommend, then would you consider a hi-volume pump, etc etc.

thanks for your help

Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Colin Frolick] #357765
06/25/09 05:10 PM
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What year Imperial ?

Is this idleing in gear? ... how is your water temp? ...

Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #357766
06/25/09 05:25 PM
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'71 imperial

the oil light is off an 18# sender. if i put it in neutral it'll maybe flicker, blip the throttle it goes out, depends on how hot it must be. i've shot the pan with an IR thermometer and seen maybe 240F.

water temps are < 190

Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Colin Frolick] #357767
06/25/09 05:31 PM
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I had a 71 2 door for awhile. I am still lokking for a 69.

I would not worry about it. What kind of psi at say 3500? ...

I would try and find a higher-capacity pan.

Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #357768
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psi at speed is good.

i guess i could get one of those adjustable screws for the pump and crank up the pressure a little huh.

i couldn't find a pan that would fit to my satisfaction... got help on cbodydrydock.com and then went with my stock pan, with "custom" baffles ;-)

'69s are tight. look up "imperial donut" on youtube heh

Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Colin Frolick] #357769
06/25/09 08:23 PM
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At 240F I would want to cool the oil and on the Q I would consider the next grade of thicker oil(for the summer) and possibly a hv pump. #15 @idle is OK(but getting close to the edge) as long as it jump up immediately when you rev it


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Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Colin Frolick] #357770
06/26/09 09:50 AM
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What filter?


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Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Colin Frolick] #357771
06/26/09 09:59 AM
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Quote:

psi at speed is good.

i guess i could get one of those adjustable screws for the pump and crank up the pressure a little huh.

They don't work at idle are to set pressure limit
http://summitracing.com/parts/MIL-21550/
your best bet would be the oil cooler and remote filter cooling oils and adding more oil to the system. maybe a dual filter set up?? LOL!!
15 lb at idle is fine my worry would be a momentary starvation of oil at RPM???
NOW buy keeping your high pressure down to 65 or 70 lb max you would be puting less oil to the heads and bearings so less windage and theroeticaly less oil up in the system. I run my engine at a max of about 70 lb but 60 is all you need.

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Re: think i need an oil cooler? [Re: Dodgem] #357772
06/26/09 11:55 AM
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If you do decide you want an oil cooler, I would just buy an oil filter relocation kit and add in a cooler in-line when you pipe in the filter mount.







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