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rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list #352595 06/20/09 12:45 PM 06/20/09 12:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota skep419 OP super stock
skep419 OP super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota	turbo action 17680 forward pattern valve body coan 42801 billit super sprag full metal jacket drum mrek123900as steel sleeved aluminum drum. Which rebuild kit? turbo action tranz box 17395f-1 mancini race mre014 b&m 10229 Street Strip small block

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: skep419] #352596 06/20/09 01:25 PM 06/20/09 01:25 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=2&Category_Code=A727 Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: 70AARcuda] #352597 06/20/09 01:45 PM 06/20/09 01:45 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH super451b super stock
super451b super stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: skep419] #352598 06/20/09 02:05 PM 06/20/09 02:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	A standard rebuild kit with Borg Warner or Rabestos tan clutchs will work fine. I like solid bands with Kevlar. The stock low roller clutch is fine. Check the inner race,rollers and springs. Replace as nec. Make sure you have a 4 plate high drum. If you have a late model servo (5/8" pin) take it apart and install a couple of input/output thrust washers as spacers to make it solid. Grind the feed hole in the stator support for additional oil flow (see the CRT website for instuctions). Use a 3.8 or 4.2 lever and you'll be good to go. If you like the saftey factor of the aftermaket drum ,go for it. I buy all of these parts (including gaskets,rings,seals,filter) at my local trans wholesale house for less than $100 not including the drum. Doug

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: dvw] #352599 06/20/09 04:27 PM 06/20/09 04:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	Call A and A trans. Tell them what you have, and they will recommend the best stuff for you. They are board sponsors. I bought my stuff there, aftetr I came within 1 roller of a sprague explosion. Great service and advice. Is that turbo action VB a LBA? Last edited by dave571; 06/20/09 04:27 PM.

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: dvw] #352600 06/21/09 11:33 AM 06/21/09 11:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC	Quote: If you have a late model servo (5/8" pin) take it apart and install a couple of input/output thrust washers as spacers to make it solid. Pic with spacer. The older style solid servo (smaller pin) is nicer because it has two springs, but this is a cheap improvement. 5306202-Front_servo_shim2.jpg (55 downloads)

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: 440Jim] #352601 06/21/09 02:46 PM 06/21/09 02:46 PM
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hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	Billitt front drum and 5 pinion steel 5306461-IMG_1817.JPG (41 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: 440Jim] #352602 07/07/09 06:40 PM 07/07/09 06:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota skep419 OP super stock
skep419 OP super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota	Quote: Quote: If you have a late model servo (5/8" pin) take it apart and install a couple of input/output thrust washers as spacers to make it solid. Pic with spacer. The older style solid servo (smaller pin) is nicer because it has two springs, but this is a cheap improvement. I talked with turbo action today and I'm planning on using there full manual valve body with lba. He said I should buy the better servo and use a 5.0 lever. How much better is the servo over the washer improved unit.

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: skep419] #352603 07/07/09 06:43 PM 07/07/09 06:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl. D dusturbd340W5 master
dusturbd340W5 master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl.	the solid billet servos are a much better piece but I prefer the 4.2 lever over the 5.0 70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: dusturbd340W5] #352604 07/08/09 09:48 AM 07/08/09 09:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Quote: the solid billet servos are a much better piece but I prefer the 4.2 lever over the 5.0 check with member mr.randyj he has the servos you want , great price and good guy to deal with , get both the front and the rear , and don't use a 5.0 lever .

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: JohnRR] #352605 07/08/09 11:41 AM 07/08/09 11:41 AM
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street_dart member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 140 sweden	I am also re building my 727. Why should I not use a 5.0 kickdown lever? Dodge Dart-67 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer-55 Dodge Dakota 4.7 -05

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: street_dart] #352606 07/08/09 12:07 PM 07/08/09 12:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl. D dusturbd340W5 master
dusturbd340W5 master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl.	to much problems with shift overlap 70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: street_dart] #352607 07/08/09 12:13 PM 07/08/09 12:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,925 NC	The 5.0 level does give more holding power in 2nd gear. However, with increased line pressure of a manual valve body, there is no need for it, the pressure does the job. The 5.0 lever will be slower releasing during the 2-3 shift and can contribute to shift overlap (binding). For a 727, especially with a manual valve body, I prefer the 3.8 or 4.2 lever.

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: 440Jim] #352608 07/08/09 01:08 PM 07/08/09 01:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Small Hijack Great thread, I am also rebuilding a 727 for My Hemi project. So let me add to this thread, what are the feelings of a factory 3 pinion planet, Vs a HD factory 4 pinion planet? I was told by HP trans builder specializing in 727 that he was building 727 with these planets and kept breaking them. He went back to 3 pinion and the problem went away. This was due to triangulation etc. And if upgrading go with the 5 pinion, or stay with the three... I would love to hear 440Jim's thoughts on this.. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: Bob_Coomer] #352609 07/08/09 02:53 PM 07/08/09 02:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: I was told by HP trans builder specializing in 727 that he was building 727 with these planets and kept breaking them. I'd be interested to know where they were "breaking". If one wanted to use the triangulation argument, then the more pinions the better the lateral stability. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: John_Kunkel] #352610 07/09/09 09:46 AM 07/09/09 09:46 AM
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RAT PATROL mopar R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 406 Oregon,USA	"The Black Mistress" runs four pinion planetaries, they've held up fine. Driver is the weak link in my running gear. 5342458-RATPATROL.JPG (46 downloads)

Re: rebuilding 727 need some input on my parts list [Re: dave571] #352611 07/10/09 01:47 PM 07/10/09 01:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota skep419 OP super stock
skep419 OP super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 782 Minnesota	Quote: Is that turbo action VB a LBA? The part number I have listed (17680) does not have LBA. The 17675 does. Turbo action said the 17680 will go a tenth faster in the quarter but for street use not a good idea.

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