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Mustang T5 in a small block A-Body... clues #336569
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I'm sure it's been done but I'm having no luck finding anything using the search function.

I'd like to use my old lakewood bellhousing, I don't mind drilling/hacking it up. I haven't researched this much.

Issues I can think of, bearing retainer diameter/length, t/o bearing, input shaft length or lack of, input shaft diameter/pilot bushing?


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Re: Mustang T5 in a small block A-Body... clues [Re: CHRONiklyDEMONic] #336570
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Oe other factor you should consider is strength. Any stock T5, even a WC T5 is weak at best. You dont list the rest of your drivetrain combo, but unless the car is just a driver I wouldnt waste my time. That trans is a bomb waiting to go off when you start gas shifting or running it hard.


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Re: Mustang T5 in a small block A-Body... clues [Re: 69L78Nova] #336571
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Oe other factor you should consider is strength. Any stock T5, even a WC T5 is weak at best. You dont list the rest of your drivetrain combo, but unless the car is just a driver I wouldnt waste my time. That trans is a bomb waiting to go off when you start gas shifting or running it hard.




I would be looking at something else I have had the WC T5's in the shop destroyed behind so pretty lame Rustanges


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This is for just a mild budget friendly daily driver.


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if your not beating on it hard it will be Okay


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I have a car that gets beat on regularly. This application is less powerful than a stock 5.0, and not only that I won't be powershifting it or doing any sticky tire 6000rpm clutch dumps on my way to work... maybe on my way home after work.

No not really, but anyways, POS transmission or not, can it be done within reason?


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I have a car that gets beat on regularly. This application is less powerful than a stock 5.0, and not only that I won't be powershifting it or doing any sticky tire 6000rpm clutch dumps on my way to work... maybe on my way home after work.

No not really, but anyways, POS transmission or not, can it be done within reason?




Yes it can be done, but it costs a good chunk of money (and then some) for the required parts. And then youre still left in the end with a T-5 thats filled with glass parts and shifts like dog poo.

What do you need a 5th gear for anyways? your tires too short?

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OzHemi has one in his OzCharger and it fit pretty well. Still reqired some trimming to the trans x-member, but it looks like it turned out well. I wouldn't hesitate to use one in my Valiant - 300 real HP (260 at the rear wheels), and 3600#. For swapping, I'd look at the 1999+ units, as they have the longest input shafts, and most are rated at ~300 lb-ft. IMHO, they're a great transmission, and there are only a lot of failure stories because there are SOOOO MANY of them out there. How many Mustangs lead an easy life?

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Actually, after the run of the Fox body (1993), the T-45 was used in the SN-95 body style starting in 1994. It is a little better than the basic T5


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Thanks Clair, but don't the newer transmissions have an integral bell?

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I have a car that gets beat on regularly. This application is less powerful than a stock 5.0, and not only that I won't be powershifting it or doing any sticky tire 6000rpm clutch dumps on my way to work... maybe on my way home after work.

No not really, but anyways, POS transmission or not, can it be done within reason?




Yes it can be done, but it costs a good chunk of money (and then some) for the required parts. And then youre still left in the end with a T-5 thats filled with glass parts and shifts like dog poo.




Elaborate on the cost please. Remember I have a bellhousing already, and can score a good trans for a dirt cheap trade. The rest of the hardware should be cake, just making it work is what I'm trying to get info on.

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What do you need a 5th gear for anyways? your tires too short?




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This thread should answer most of your questions, the ford spec tko and t-5 installation would be very similar.

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/clutch/25.html

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Thanks Clair, but don't the newer transmissions have an integral bell?




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The GT's an mod-motor cars DO use integral bell T-45's, as has been mentioned. The V-6 Mustangs from 1999 up to some point continued to use the T-5, at least according to some info that I got from Tremec. These are the 3.8L cars One of the nice things about these boxes is that they have a longer input, so they tend to work better in a Mopar swap. They're rated at 300 lb-ft continuous, so I think they'd last just fine in a driver situation. There are also HD gear sets out there if you NEED to upgrade, and plenty of aftermarket support for rebuild and other upgrade goodies.

Keep us posted if you go down that road. If I didn't already have a Toyota trans to work with, I'd be working on a T-5, too.

Clair

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Get yourself a T45 instead. They come in 96 and up GT's and Cobras, not hard to find. Those 4.6DOHC's ('specially the 99's) make more power than most Mopar small blocks and do NOT live easy lives, and most hold up pretty well.

Keisler supposedly make s a kit for the T45 in a Mopar now, its cheaper than the TKO kit, but still a bit o money. Maybe you can buy everything but the tranny? I've been thinking about this swap for my Challenger, and i asked them about it but they said they make the kit to mate the engine, but not the kit to install it in the car. Shifter location is off or something like that.







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