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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: B1MAXX] #336358
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Thanks, I appreciate that.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: PolyDart] #336359
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they are plummbed the "normal" way. Both outlets of the master go in one side of the metering block. both lines go out from the metering block into the inlet of the line loc, and from the out to the front/rear brakes.

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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: B1MAXX] #336360
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they are plummbed the "normal" way. Both outlets of the master go in one side of the metering block. both lines go out from the metering block into the inlet of the line loc, and from the out to the front/rear brakes.




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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: fasteddie] #336361
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Some tracks prohibit line locks on the rear wheels.

Personally, I would not put a line lock on backwards to lock out the rear wheels. It is not designed for that and may cause unknown problems.

Mine is installed as per the instructions on the fronts after the proportioning valve.

Momentary button is on the shifter. I push the button, pump the brakes hard, and do my burnout. Been on the car for about 17 years and still working perfect.




This is all new to me and it sounds too confusing to mess with at the track..and what is the benefit? I've always installed mine per instructions and getting ready to put the line lock on my Savoy. It will go on the old fashion way unless someone can explain how it's better. Help me understand.
Explain to me from start to finish a burnout with it plumbed that way and how it's safe?

not being sarcastic. just want to know.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: 52savoy] #336362
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my line lock is on the ft brake line commin out of the master cyl. been there for 24yrs works perfect easy to install !!!!


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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: 52savoy] #336363
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This is all new to me and it sounds too confusing to mess with at the track..and what is the benefit? I've always installed mine per instructions and getting ready to put the line lock my Savoy. It will go on the old fashion way unless someone can explain how it's better. Help me understand.
Explain to me from start to finish a burnout with it plumbed that way and how it's safe?

not being sarcastic. just want to know.




As simple to install as the regular way, just reversed and in the rear line. Roll up to water box and switch the linelock on, now you have no rear brakes. Roll into water, apply brakes (only front operate), mash the loud pedal (rears will spin up, no brakes applied) do your stuff and when you want to roll out just modulate the pressure on the brake pedal for a very controllable exit. This is the main advantage. Disengage line lock. Done

Some people claim it makes it easier to leave the line lock switched on and only have front brakes when you get to the top end. Not if you fit a momentary switch like you would for a regular fitting. And even if that did happen (can't see how) you would have plenty of brakes at top end with no risk of swapping ends etc.

When it's prevented by rules then end of argument, but if not I like it and it makes sense to me.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: Gavin] #336364
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As simple to install as the regular way, just reversed and in the rear line.




I called Hurst and they said there is no reason to reverse anything for use on the rear brakes. They had no problem with using it on the rear either.

Seems like it should work very well this way. Looking forward to trying it out.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: PolyDart] #336365
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There are actually line lock type solinoids marketed for the puropse of BLOCKING the pressure to the brakes. They use them in circle track cars, like sprint cars etc. I think they will actually block the pressure to one wheel on one side of the car to get the car to turn while braking in the dirt

They are pretty much the same thing as we use.


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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: Ron Silva] #336366
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We are using the line lock solenoid to block pressure to the rear wheels on my brothers car. Alot of Stock and Super Stock Racers prefer this method also, which is where I first heard about it. I feel like there is more control in the burnout. I actually have the solenoid mounted at the rear of the car so that its not visible under the hood.


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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: Gavin] #336367
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It makes sense..You don't have to pump up the front brakes anymore either. Definitely need a momentary switch for safety or absent minded old guys.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: 52savoy] #336368
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The reason I did it was to be able to leave off a 2-step on the floor without a transbrake. Use only one line loc for burn out flip a switch and use two for the launch.

Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: B1MAXX] #336369
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The reason I did it was to be able to leave off a 2-step on the floor without a transbrake. Use only one line loc for burn out flip a switch and use two for the launch.




Sorry to hijack here, I have my line locks wired like you. I've never used it, just launched of the footbrake which will hold up to 3k rpm. Was there a noticable difference in 60ft times?


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Re: Line Locks locking out rear wheels [Re: Tig] #336370
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