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Ultra low sulfur diesel question. #325888
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What damage would result from using regular diesel fuel in an '08 diesel Ram?

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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325889
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Not sure what you mean by "Regular". ULSD is less than 15ppm sulphur. The previous LSD was "less than 500ppm" Prior to that was 3000ppm.
You are just putting more wear on the cat--more soot to burn off, more ash to contend with.
Over the long haul not a good idea, a few tankfuls? no problem.

But I don't see the real upside. Non-taxed off-road fuel???? (hmmmm?) Red dye?

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325890
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What damage would result from using regular diesel fuel in an '08 diesel Ram?





Don't do it.

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Challenger 1] #325891
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you can clog/damage the DPF filter if im not mistaken.

Costs around 1000 bucks if it needs to be cleaned/replaced

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #325892
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I'm asking because I just traded my '02 diesel in on the '08. The gas station I always use has one diesel pump and it's not ULS. Do I need to start going out of my way to find ULS?


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325893
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I'm asking because I just traded my '02 diesel in on the '08. The gas station I always use has one diesel pump and it's not ULS. Do I need to start going out of my way to find ULS?




I bet it is(ULSD), what color is the fuel?

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325894
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I'm asking because I just traded my '02 diesel in on the '08. The gas station I always use has one diesel pump and it's not ULS. Do I need to start going out of my way to find ULS?




I thought ALL diesel sold for road use is ULSD now?????? (in the USA anyway)

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #325895
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The Pilot truck stop here has both.


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325896
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Is the "LSD" red dye fuel????

I still think all diesel sold for road consumption is ULSD, has been since 1/1/2007

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #325897
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It's more clear with a hint of green.


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325898
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What makes you think its NOT ULSD?

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #325899
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There are about 10 pumps in a line and above the first two it has the wording Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel Here with arrows pointing to the two pumps.


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325900
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Do I need to start going out of my way to find ULS?




After reading your last post...
Then you have found ULSD! (???) Talk to the station owner, he should be able to clarify the situation

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #325901
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Yes the Pilot has it but it's 15 miles out of the way. The station I pass daily doesn't. I don't want to drive 30 miles round trip just to fuel-up.


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325902
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When they came out with ULSD they also mandated a sticker to placed on the pumps saying which was ULSD and which was not. Big yellow sticker, can't miss it.


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #325903
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It's more clear with a hint of green.




All diesel with no red dye in it, is ULSD. ULSD has been sold just about everywhere 18-12 months before it was required by law. As long as it has no dye in it, it will be fine in your 08 truck.

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It's more clear with a hint of green.




All diesel with no red dye in it, is ULSD. ULSD has been sold just about everywhere 18-12 months before it was required by law. As long as it has no dye in it, it will be fine in your 08 truck.




Not quite, LSD is still around, at least at most of the truck stops (no idea on the 4 wheeler stops) I use since I drive a pre-07 Freightshaker. Not advised to use ULSD in my truck, but it will work if as long as it's not used on a continual basis.

When I do put in ULSD I throw in a bottle or Howes or Lucas in the tanks to help in the decreased lube factor.


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It's more clear with a hint of green.




All diesel with no red dye in it, is ULSD. ULSD has been sold just about everywhere 18-12 months before it was required by law. As long as it has no dye in it, it will be fine in your 08 truck.




Not quite, LSD is still around, at least at most of the truck stops (no idea on the 4 wheeler stops) I use since I drive a pre-07 Freightshaker. Not advised to use ULSD in my truck, but it will work if as long as it's not used on a continual basis.

When I do put in ULSD I throw in a bottle or Howes or Lucas in the tanks to help in the decreased lube factor.




Good info All the ULSD diesel we get around here has lubricity agents added at the terminals before we get it.
Been running a small fleet(9) of 2000-2004 trucks on ULSD diesel now for a few years now with no problems.

Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: Challenger 1] #325906
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this ULSD is an on going topic every where.
it was brought on by our goverment before they researched it completely,,,as usuall,,

the current mandate for ULSD to be sold in the US
is 2010, it was orignally 2007, so it is not sold every where in the US yet,,calif is currently the only state mandated to sell it,,but it is available in many places,


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Re: Ultra low sulfur diesel question. [Re: fstfish66] #325907
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I don't think they've been delivering LSD to stations since late 2006/early 2007.

The pump/tank has to be certified for ULSD. Obviously, for a while, the ULSD mixes with the LSD that was in the tank.

It takes a while for the LSD to be used up and the tank certified.

What I've read is that some station owners have chosen not to certify some pumps since LSD gives better mileage than ULSD. So, people who have diesels that can take LSD think they're getting better fuel at the LSD pump.

Most likely, they're getting the same fuel as the ULSD pumps.


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