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Re: Any recommendations for a subcompact tractor? [Re: Guitar Jones] #3219434
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Been with Kubota for almost 30 years. I will say some of the quality the Japanese were known for is slipping a bit IMO and it's not just with kubota. Overall their quality is still there but there are smaller things like cupholder placement ( yeah I know wha wha) seat and pedal positioning etc. thatmake one wonder if they are following Detroit into the late 70's early 80's.
Deere? Most everyone I know has had more issues with them than any other brand and comparison wise they are substantially higher unless things ave changed recently. twocents

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Looks like it will be a Kubota BX23S. Dealer about an 1.5 hours away has them in stock for a good price.

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I was going to recommend a L2502. Used to be called a 2501. No regen, no exhuast filter. The regen on my 3901 drives me NUTS. Would have bought the 2501 and put a turbo on it in hindsite (see orangetractortalks.com). My opinion is the 2502 is more tractor for almost the same money. No mid PTO though, so no belly mower if thats your thing. If so, you made the right choice on the BX

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Love my John Deere 1025R. Easiest mower attach in the business, but I know you said that's not a consideration. I have the bucket of course and a 4' bush hog. I use a 54'" power angle plow in the winter and occasionally a 4' box blade. You may want to look at the 2025R series as it has bigger rubber, but still uses the 24.9 HP Yanmar with no def.

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Originally Posted by jerseybud
I was going to recommend a L2502. Used to be called a 2501. No regen, no exhuast filter. The regen on my 3901 drives me NUTS. Would have bought the 2501 and put a turbo on it in hindsite (see orangetractortalks.com). My opinion is the 2502 is more tractor for almost the same money. No mid PTO though, so no belly mower if thats your thing. If so, you made the right choice on the BX


We don't need a big tractor it will mainly be used for property maintenance, clearing streams and brush and some light farming. We are just to old to be digging around here by hand. We did everything over the phone and internet this morning and will be picking it up Wednesday.

I appreciate all the info, thank you to you all.


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Re: Any recommendations for a subcompact tractor? [Re: Guitar Jones] #3219847
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So what all did you get with it IE: deck , loader, cab, backhoe etc and not tryig to pry but approx. $$. I've got a B3200 that is a lot more than I need BUT it is all paid for. I've thought about downsizing is the reason I'm asking. I'm thinking I would probably come up short for a smaller unit shruggy beer

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The BX23S comes with a front end loader and a backhoe, that's all we needed so that is all we got. $23500 plus tax.


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Re: Any recommendations for a subcompact tractor? [Re: TJP] #3219862
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Now if you don't mind driving to the south east Alabama border with Florida you can get a similar Branson/TYM tractor and a trailer to haul it on for $21000.

Dixie Horse & Mule

That is a deal and I considered it, but it's 12 hours away from me, the closest dealer here is a bit over 2 hours away and I don't need or want the trailer because I would have to pay taxes on it or hassle with selling it.


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thanks for answering up Good price IMO.
With the DH or Branson I'd be a bit cautious on long term support as well as local if needed. I really have never heard or either shruggy

The other issue is my current unit has a soft cab with heat and the existing implements may need the existing HP. frown

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Originally Posted by TJP
thanks for answering up Good price IMO.
With the DH or Branson I'd be a bit cautious on long term support as well as local if needed. I really have never heard or either shruggy

The other issue is my current unit has a soft cab with heat and the existing implements may need the existing HP. frown


I hadn't heard of either of them before either until I started looking. South Korean company Kukje makes the Branson tractor and it gets high marks from owners on the tractor forums. TYM also South Korean purchased Kukje last year, so while it is the same company now the tractors are not the same, but that is probably changing. Bad Boy tractors are rebadged Bransons which was a deal made before Kukje was purchased by TYM.


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FWIW, growing up farming and ranching, starting my own operation now, I wouldn't buy anything but premium. I don't think about it's usage but how much is it going to be worth when I upgrade. Branson and TYM (and whatever other Korean tractor) is a giveaway.

In my area, John Deere has 0% financing all the time. at least once a quarter,

I am only considering New Holland, JD, Kubota, and even toying with the idea of a skid steer instead because my Dad is my neighbor and has a New Holland, Case backhoe, and a dump trailer that a skid can be hauled in.


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I understand, we aren't a large farm though, just a small hobby farm and at our age this is likely going to be our first and last tractor purchase.


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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
The BX23S comes with a front end loader and a backhoe, that's all we needed so that is all we got. $23500 plus tax.


Found a couple advertised $17,500 for one and $19,000 for the other: 200 ish hours. I think that's a good deal you have for brand-new, full warranty.

I would have suggested an ASV/Terex Compact Track Loader: I absolutely love mine. Perkins 3cyl, 34hp, no emissions nonsense, made in Minnesota. They don't give these things away though.....$$ wink

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Re: Any recommendations for a subcompact tractor? [Re: Grizzly] #3220305
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So far so good, it came with the large 16" bucket and a step up in tires. That thing you have looks somewhat like a Bobcat. Bobcat also has small tractors, but they seem to be the most expensive by far.


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I thought bobcat had them made by some foreign company.


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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
I thought bobcat had them made by some foreign company.


Well as JDMopar pointed out earlier there are no under 40 horse tractors made in this country. Looks like most are Korean.


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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
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I thought bobcat had them made by some foreign company.


Well as JDMopar pointed out earlier there are no under 40 horse tractors made in this country. Looks like most are Korean.


That is absolutely untrue. The John Deere 1, 2, 3, & 4 series tractors are made in Augusta Georgia. Additionally, most Kubota compact tractors sold in North America are made in the Gainesville GA plant.

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Bobcat have some clever ideas in equipment of all sizes, and last I knew they were still using Kubota power.

A few years ago I tried to purchase a new T550 from them. Used machine was not an option.

Bobcat authorizes the dealership network to run like a Mafia and you are forced to purchase from the one in your area no matter how miserable they are to deal with. And they can set whatever price they want on the machine. I called two out-of-area dealers for price quotes. The Thieves in my area were $14,000.00 higher than BOTH of the other dealerships. Had I bought the machine out of area, warranty was voided and the VIN gets red-flagged in their system. Needless to say, but I literally told Bobcat to go F*&# themselves and bought my ASV.

Not trying to de-rail the thread, but, the equipment topic doesn't come up often, and just putting this out there to help anyone else shopping for a new Machine.

On engines, my Dad's John Deere 3520 is Yanmar 37 hp 3cyl turbo power and that's a great engine. Setting at 1000hrs now. Photo attached of the identical machine to His.

ASV run Cummins and Deutz in their large machines, and are now Yanmar in the smaller machines. They still run the Perkins that I have but dropped the rating from 34hp to 24.7hp. My Dealer told me their reason was under 25hp they are emissions exempt.

I hope you update the thread with some fotos of you working that new machine, Guitar. up I'm especially curious on how well that Hoe works.

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Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
I thought bobcat had them made by some foreign company.


I believe they are Kioti's

Re: Any recommendations for a subcompact tractor? [Re: Grizzly] #3220493
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Well I'm curious too, I have never owned or operated anything of the sort before so I'm sure there is a learning curve. We'll see how it goes.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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