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Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1Frank] #3200674
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6 pac piston rod and pin
Piston 920
Rod 901
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440 stock pin 223
Stock 68 440 piston rod pin together 1932.5
6pac together 2071.2
68 piston 866 pin 223
Those 866 pistons came out of a 74 440 motor home block had 6 pac rods and steel crank and internally balanced, regular balancer.

Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1MAXX] #3200676
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I checked out the ross pistons #80762 ...like good, ..... i think with a 88cc head with a #40 felpro head gasket comp around 11.00 to 11.25 ...............i have not checked out the price yet. ?

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Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: cudaman1969] #3200682
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Thank you i really needed that info cudaman 69 .......... is it the same with a HP block ???

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Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1Frank] #3200696
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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Thank you i really needed that info cudaman 69 .......... is it the same with a HP block
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Reg piston was not in a HP block but the combined one was. Slight difference in height between the 2, 68 being taller but neither as tall as the 6 pac. Remember the 69-1/2 6 pac had the regular pistons and LY rods, 70-71 had the high compression 4 valve notch pistons and big rods, externally balanced. I’m thinking the LY rod and lighter pin would get close to the regulars setup with internal balance, with a little metal removal in the piston (30 grams). That’s what I’m looking to do

Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1Frank] #3200749
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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Thank you i really needed that info cudaman 69 .......... is it the same with a HP block ???
You need the small and big end weights for the rod to calculate the bob weight.

Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: Scully] #3200863
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2 big ends+ 2 con. bearing sets+ 1 little end+ 1 ring set+ 1 piston +1 pin + any locks for one piston+ (oil of choice usually 5/6 gr.)= bobweight.

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Thank you sir, it has been a struggle matching parts ! all the stroker kits from Jegs ...........need balancing too ! *&^%$#@! it is hard when you have not bought the pistons yet,.........LOL LOL

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Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1MAXX] #3201900
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Why can't some body made a affordable forged piston with a compression radio around 11.00 to 11.50 with a open chamber head in a stock block ? ..................... please i don't understand !

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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Why can't some body made a affordable forged piston with a compression radio around 11.00 to 11.50 with a open chamber head in a stock block ? ..................... please i don't understand !


Because aftermarket choices are bleak to non existent for mopars... now it it were a chevy or smallblock ford ...


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Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1Frank] #3201989
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I got a set of trw forged designed for open chamber
.60 over they are close to 11 to 1 I never measured weight but I heard they are stock cast piston weight

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Did you get your pistons from Jegs/summit/ or from there web-site ?

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They are old stock 2295. I think they used to call them 6 pack pistons

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There isa set on eBay for 60 bucks

Re: 440 six pack stock rods crank gram weight ? [Re: B1Frank] #3202237
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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Why can't some body made a affordable forged piston with a compression radio around 11.00 to 11.50 with a open chamber head in a stock block ? ..................... please i don't understand !


Because that is a bad combination. Most customers want a combination that they can daily drive with pump gas. A modern closed chamber aluminum head with 10:1 compression using an off the shelf flat top piston makes great power and works with pump gas.

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Originally Posted by d-150
They are old stock 2295. I think they used to call them 6 pack pistons
The TRW 6 Pack pistons have 4 notches and are identical to the stock ones in shape.

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They are old stock 2295. I think they used to call them 6 pack pistons
The TRW 6 Pack pistons have 4 notches and are identical to the stock ones in shape.


Yep, the 2295 are what gets termed "old trw dome tops".

The six pac is 2355

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Thanks all the pistons for-sale i have seen are the low compression one's

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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Thanks all the pistons for-sale i have seen are the low compression one's


What heads are you using ?


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Originally Posted by B1Frank
Thanks all the pistons for-sale i have seen are the low compression one's

Then they’re not 6 pac pistons, should be 2.05 compression height at least.

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Im using #452 heads for unleaded gas

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