Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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At face value, that solution sounds fantastic, and one I would highly consider. When did this upgraded package become available, at PRI/Sema? This package would IMO be a great solution for Reilly IFS users that want a beefier hub set-up for heavy car RB or track day cars and or a 2" drop option. What does concern me, the $649 price mentioned on the video sounds too good to be true. Understand there are no corvette style HD hubs manufactured with 5x4.5" BC, if you look closely at the video you will spot a relief cut into the hub to allow the Mopar BC studs to be installed. How much that machined cut weakens the bearing carrier concerns me. Additionally, the C7 sealed hub assemblies based on internet reports are a wearable/replaceable item with a fixed life in hard cornering situations. I really would have liked to have seen an Alum upright that C7's have. No matter what, it's progress.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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Spoke with CPP today. Available for prompt shipping Uprights are DI. they do not machine 4.5" BC in house, which I would like to have done on my existing IRS C7 hubs, so that will be need to solved elsewhere. the Mustang II C7 offering has been offered now for 2? years, and news to me.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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It's still an MII suspension. Not sure the squeeze is worth the juice here. To my knowledge, the only part on coil over conversions for Mopars that is M2 is the spindle. How does that make the whole suspension M2?
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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Spoke with CPP today. Available for prompt shipping Uprights are DI. they do not machine 4.5" BC in house, which I would like to have done on my existing IRS C7 hubs, so that will be need to solved elsewhere. the Mustang II C7 offering has been offered now for 2? years, and news to me. I have these on my car with an HDK suspension. It works great, the only problem is they are relatively short (stock M2 height), screwing the roll center. I've added a 2" taller than stock upper ball joint since this photo was taken to remediate this.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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It's still an MII suspension. Not sure the squeeze is worth the juice here. To my knowledge, the only part on coil over conversions for Mopars that is M2 is the spindle. How does that make the whole suspension M2? It's for any MII based suspension. To quote from the link and enlarged so you actually read it. Now, their Corvette-Style Spindle is available for one of the most popular suspensions on the market: Mustang II.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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It's still an MII suspension. Not sure the squeeze is worth the juice here. To my knowledge, the only part on coil over conversions for Mopars that is M2 is the spindle. How does that make the whole suspension M2? The spindle is an important part of the suspension to design to. But I don't see one component is enough to give naming rights to the whole suspension. And I doubt the spindle is off the Ford parts shelf. Does it even share the same wheel bearings at a M2? They offer M2 spindle with 7 deg kingpin inclination vs 10 deg stock. Also the aftermarket one have at least the upper ball joint hole larger to accept the mopar K727 upper ball joints.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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Spoke with CPP today. Available for prompt shipping Uprights are DI. they do not machine 4.5" BC in house, which I would like to have done on my existing IRS C7 hubs, so that will be need to solved elsewhere. the Mustang II C7 offering has been offered now for 2? years, and news to me. I have these on my car with an HDK suspension. It works great, the only problem is they are relatively short (stock M2 height), screwing the roll center. I've added a 2" taller than stock upper ball joint since this photo was taken to remediate this. Nice! looks like you have the 2" drop version? Is that a Howe upper ball joint you will be using?
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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Spoke with CPP today. Available for prompt shipping Uprights are DI. they do not machine 4.5" BC in house, which I would like to have done on my existing IRS C7 hubs, so that will be need to solved elsewhere. the Mustang II C7 offering has been offered now for 2? years, and news to me. I have these on my car with an HDK suspension. It works great, the only problem is they are relatively short (stock M2 height), screwing the roll center. I've added a 2" taller than stock upper ball joint since this photo was taken to remediate this. Nice! looks like you have the 2" drop version? Is that a Howe upper ball joint you will be using? I was under the impression the previous pic was the 2" taller BJ. Is that a spacer we see under the pictured BJ?
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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Yes, it connects the back of the control arms together. I assume its there to add some lateral strength to the control arms. It comes standard with the HDK kit. interesting. thanks for the response.
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Re: New C7 spindles for mustang II type suspensions
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It's still an MII suspension. Not sure the squeeze is worth the juice here. To my knowledge, the only part on coil over conversions for Mopars that is M2 is the spindle. How does that make the whole suspension M2? The spindle is an important part of the suspension to design to. But I don't see one component is enough to give naming rights to the whole suspension. And I doubt the spindle is off the Ford parts shelf. Does it even share the same wheel bearings at a M2? They offer M2 spindle with 7 deg kingpin inclination vs 10 deg stock. Also the aftermarket one have at least the upper ball joint hole larger to accept the mopar K727 upper ball joints. It's a simliar discussion as to what is a "Hemi" in Top Fuel, and not worth my time.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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