Ever Wondered What Paperwork The Dealer Kept?
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12/17/23 06:09 PM
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Well here is your chance to see what paperwork the dealer had when you ordered your muscle car in 1970. This is a video of a folder from a closed down Chrysler Plymouth dealer called Duarte and Witting in Martinez, California. I have traveled all over the country trying to find this stuff and it just fascinates me. How dealers ordered cars, what percentage were performance cars, mistakes made along the way, etc etc. If anybody knows of any dealers that have been around forever ask them if they have any of this stuff. Can’t tell you how many times we have gotten to a dealer and just been told “just threw it all away”. Chrysler has no records past 1967 so this stuff is the only record of most of these cars. Hope you all enjoy the video! https://youtu.be/eetFkl1u3mk?si=vW8TvGFy_ViVL13r
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Re: Ever Wondered What Paperwork The Dealer Kept?
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12/17/23 11:00 PM
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No records after 1967, before is of course available. My mistake, lol. I read before instead of what you wrote
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Re: Ever Wondered What Paperwork The Dealer Kept?
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12/18/23 04:39 AM
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No records after 1967, before is of course available. I've been told post-'67 they do still have the punch cards; or a surprising amount of them, anyway. The problem is; there is no longer a functional system to use those punch cards in. From what I've been told, the information on the punch cards was used to print the build sheet, among other things, probably even process the build order. . I'm sure it could collate many things. If someone could locate the program used, build a functional system for reading the cards, and then have some new tractor-paper blank build sheets made.... there's a possibility of re-printing new build sheets. But that's an awful lot of work.
Last edited by That AMC Guy; 12/18/23 04:40 AM.
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Re: Ever Wondered What Paperwork The Dealer Kept?
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12/18/23 10:47 AM
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I attempted to do that with a local dealership that went under in '85 as one of my cars was sold through them. The widow of the owner, and I quote, "under advice of my lawyer, any documentation that I didn't have to retain for tax purposes should be shredded. So that's what I did".
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Re: Ever Wondered What Paperwork The Dealer Kept?
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No records after 1967, before is of course available. I've been told post-'67 they do still have the punch cards; or a surprising amount of them, anyway. The problem is; there is no longer a functional system to use those punch cards in. From what I've been told, the information on the punch cards was used to print the build sheet, among other things, probably even process the build order. . I'm sure it could collate many things. If someone could locate the program used, build a functional system for reading the cards, and then have some new tractor-paper blank build sheets made.... there's a possibility of re-printing new build sheets. But that's an awful lot of work. I have items from the original selling dealer, that sold my Plymouth brand new. Such as: the sales invoice, the window sticker, the owners manual. Along with the Broadcast sheet, And the original title in the first owners name. After I bought my car, I tried to research the dealer, but found it had closed down a few decades ago. Although the same family is doing business as a local trucking company. I asked them if they kept any paperwork at all or any dealer related paraphernalia...they said it was all dumped when the dealer closed up. But anyway...as far as the punch cards are concerned. My father's job at Chrysler, was to generate and process the IBM TAB cards, as an IBM computer operator, in his department. He did that job for over 23 years.... (starting in 1963) Before his untimely death, at 49. In the years before he died, he was promoted to shift supervisor of his department.
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