Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: cudabill]
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11/02/23 11:44 AM
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turbobitt
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Bullet Cams says that cam with solids will work fine. If you run the solid lifters then hot lash the cam at .010/.010. You will be fine and you can run as much spring as you want. Kirk m I just ran my jet boat over the weekend with a Hyd. roller cam on solids and started out with .006/.006 cold lash. Engine was pretty quiet but had a little noise when it was warmed up but still think it was quiet compared to the lash setting of a full solid setup. AG.
1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy.
1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno.
1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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11/02/23 02:35 PM
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Brad_Haak
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I’ve sold several sets of BAM’s to people with unbushed stock blocks.
One of them sent me a little video of him running the priming tool with the manifold off. He was worried about the flow of oil coming out around the lifter wheel from the EDM oiling to the axle. It was way less than what I’d seen from similar videos using other lifters.
In the end, the hot oil pressure is fine, and that motor completed drag week this year without issue. That's good to know, since my "next build" block doesn't have bushed lifter bores like the current one does that has BAM needle-bearing rollers in it. I like the BAM lifter features. They measured about .0005" wider than a couple of different COMP lifters I checked, so they fit the bores a little more snuggly, too.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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11/02/23 02:53 PM
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Here’s the theoretical nominal sizing for BAM lifters:
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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11/26/23 04:08 AM
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I realized I don't need pushrod oil-thru based on the oil passage diagrams and plan to use the thickest pushrods that will work (which would retain more oil and weight).
I ordered the Lunati bushed solid lifters. A whole $119 off black friday sale. "https://www.lunatipower.com/sportsman-solid-roller-lifter-set-w-bushing-for-chrysler-383-440-426-hemi.html - Same as Comp cams $1,195" ... $1,076.36
Last edited by cudabill; 11/26/23 04:12 AM.
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: 451Mopar]
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12/01/23 08:50 PM
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The Isky bushed red zone in my drag week hemi have been rock solid, with no lash change. BUT, they are ridiculously inconsistent in diameter and tapered. I had to sort through and measure 3 sets and select the 16 that were all close enough in size and had the least taper before final honing the lifter bore bushings. And return the rest.
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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12/01/23 10:21 PM
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I have a few sets of Isky Redzone EZ-max or whatever. They are rated to 1400lbs.
The bushed Comp lifters in my GTS were around $1k a year or two ago. They are rated to 1100lbs.
As stated the Isly bodies measure all over the place. I just call and ask them to measure the set before it ships.
I wanted BAM for that engine. I think Mr. Porter told me they were out of stock at the time.
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Re: Solid bushed roller choices?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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12/02/23 02:18 AM
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Cab_Burge
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 12/02/23 02:20 AM.
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