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My 22" or so monitor began flaking out so i upgraded to an Acer Nitro 31.5" FHD 1920 x 1080 1500R Curved PC Gaming Monitor | AMD FreeSync | 75Hz Refresh | 1ms VRB | VESA Mountable | Height, Tilt, Swivel Adjustable | 1 x HDMI 1.4 Port & VGA | XZ320QR. LINKY 1I found the WHITE background a bit overwhelming so switched to Dark Mode. Can't honestly remember if everything went dark or not but i was happy with it until it started randomly going blank. I suspect it may have had a flakey connection at the power supply plug So I returned it and ordered the following, PHILIPS 322E1C 32" Super-Curved Frameless Monitor, Full HD VA, 104% sRGB, Adaptive-Sync 75Hz, VESA, 4Yr Advance Replacement Warranty, Black/Silver LINKY 2I can't seem to get as comfortable with the Phillips Monitor as I was with the Acer color wise. Currently my Outlook 2019 mail looks like a 1955 television screen being a bit gray with horizontal lines. but at least it's not blinding me. I'm thinking the acer may have had more adjustments or options on the color but not 100% on that. All I want is a 32" monitor that will support the dark mode in all the programs, browsers etc. I'm not into gaming or any of that. I don't know enough about all of the technology to know what I need or don't. Any help??? I included links to the AMZ pages that have more info on the specs for each monitor. I did note the Phillips manual was printed in 2017 so maybe that has something to do with it TIA
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I can't seem to get as comfortable with the Phillips Monitor as I was with the Acer color wise. Currently my Outlook 2019 mail looks like a 1955 television screen being a bit gray with horizontal lines. but at least it's not blinding me. I'm thinking the acer may have had more adjustments or options on the color but not 100% on that. All I want is a 32" monitor that will support the dark mode in all the programs, browsers etc. I'm not into gaming or any of that. TIA I'm not good with colors but this sounds pretty outrageous. All I can offer is you're not using the VGA input are you? I used VGA until a few years ago without much trouble until one of the 25 pins gets bent or damaged, then the colors are really really bad. If you using VGA, try a different cable. I've never had a problem with HDMI or Display Port. If you have the option of HDMI or Display Port, switch immediately.
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What graphics card are you using? Intel UHD 630 BTW you're getting into foreign language territory with me 🤣 I did just check the drivers and they are up to date. Again, I don't do anything with games etc.
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I can't seem to get as comfortable with the Phillips Monitor as I was with the Acer color wise. Currently my Outlook 2019 mail looks like a 1955 television screen being a bit gray with horizontal lines. but at least it's not blinding me. I'm thinking the acer may have had more adjustments or options on the color but not 100% on that. All I want is a 32" monitor that will support the dark mode in all the programs, browsers etc. I'm not into gaming or any of that. TIA I'm not good with colors but this sounds pretty outrageous. All I can offer is you're not using the VGA input are you? I used VGA until a few years ago without much trouble until one of the 25 pins gets bent or damaged, then the colors are really really bad. If you using VGA, try a different cable. I've never had a problem with HDMI or Display Port. If you have the option of HDMI or Display Port, switch immediately. HDMI
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Re: School me on Desktop Monitors PLEASE
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I'm using 2 50" 4K and one 43" 4K TV's for my computers. I can see no reason I would ever again use a dedicated Computer monitor, and there is savings today as cheap as TV's are. I like never having to zoom. I don't get the :curved" part advantages, care to explain?
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I'm using 2 50" 4K and one 43" 4K TV's for my computers. I can see no reason I would ever again use a dedicated Computer monitor, and there is savings today as cheap as TV's are. I like never having to zoom. I don't get the :curved" part advantages, care to explain? Regardless of your view of monitors, he's got to figure out why two monitors in a row and maybe the old one were unsatisfactory. My guess is he needs a video card because the onboard video feed is dying. A longer shot is his HDMI cable may be bad, never seen a bad HDMI cable but suppose it could happen?
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Understood, but simply plugging it into any suitable TV will narrow likely problem area.
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Is your rig a desktop or a laptop? If it's a laptop are you using a docking station?
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[quote=3hundred] Regardless of your view of monitors, he's got to figure out why two monitors in a row and maybe the old one were unsatisfactory. My guess is he needs a video card because the onboard video feed is dying. A longer shot is his HDMI cable may be bad, never seen a bad HDMI cable but suppose it could happen? [/quotTe] The original monitor was 15? years old and was losing segments on red colors in particular areas or the screen. The 1st replacement (Acer) would go totally off and then back on rapidly usually 4 or 5 times. It was very random. Playing with the power supply plug seemed to settle it down for a few day or three. So, that led to the current unit which is fine but the whites can be a bit bright o certain sites or when using certain programs while others are fine. I don't recall this issue with the Acer unit. This is way outside my wheelhouse so thought I might get some education here
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[quote=3hundred] Regardless of your view of monitors, he's got to figure out why two monitors in a row and maybe the old one were unsatisfactory. My guess is he needs a video card because the onboard video feed is dying. A longer shot is his HDMI cable may be bad, never seen a bad HDMI cable but suppose it could happen? [/quotTe] The original monitor was 15? years old and was losing segments on red colors in particular areas or the screen. The 1st replacement (Acer) would go totally off and then back on rapidly usually 4 or 5 times. It was very random. Playing with the power supply plug seemed to settle it down for a few day or three. So, that led to the current unit which is fine but the whites can be a bit bright o certain sites or when using certain programs while others are fine. I don't recall this issue with the Acer unit. This is way outside my wheelhouse so thought I might get some education here Like I said in my original post, I'm not good with colors. jcc's idea of hooking up a TV is a good one to try to isolate the issue. Forgot to mention this earlier, have you looked for specific drivers for your Phillips monitor? Best of luck to you.
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I'm using 2 50" 4K and one 43" 4K TV's for my computers. I can see no reason I would ever again use a dedicated Computer monitor, and there is savings today as cheap as TV's are. I like never having to zoom. I don't get the :curved" part advantages, care to explain? Was unaware a TV could be used as a computer monitor, Not in my area of knowledge I found out totally by accident. When I moved into my apt, I bought a new 32" flat screen TV. I didn't realize until I set it up that it had a plug for a computer so it could be used as a monitor. My apt was pretty small so it was a space savings to have both in one unit. I didn't need my cheaters to see the screen when in computer mode..........
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Like I said in my original post, I'm not good with colors. jcc's idea of hooking up a TV is a good one to try to isolate the issue.
Forgot to mention this earlier, have you looked for specific drivers for your Phillips monitor?
Best of luck to you. I did find the following Went to Philips website found a manual listed for this monitor and several others. Also had a driver file that was empty except for outdate instructions going back to windows 7 👎. Wasted a bit more time looking through the manual 👎👎👎. Tried calling the support number several times and kept getting disconnected after varying amounts of time 👎👎👎 Even tried selecting another option for spanish speaking, same 💩. Not to impressed at this point with what used to be a reputable company Gonna try a bare bones one from wally world as this is getting old and HARD on my eyes. I've wondered if it might have something to do with the gaming aspect although the 1st replacement seemed OK Might try a TV as suggested as well. Will keep all posted and thanks for the help so far.
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Im on windows 7 and it accepts any monitor I have plugged into it.
Silly questions but have you went through the menu on your monitor and looked at the settings?..... I use a larger monitor made for gaming and the older PC im on now cant function well on what made it a good buying point. Also had to adjust in the windows settings.
Got any kids or grand kids? This stuff is simple for them.
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I’ve got some big Samsung monitor. Was a gift from my wife. I think it’s a 4k and ii had to order some special cable to even use it. I do remember that. It’s probably 5-6 years old and it’s definitely awesome. That’s all I got for ya.
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Picked up a Samsung monitor at wally world, Plugged it in, couldn't see 💩, then I took my welding helmet off, did a few tweaks to the monitor settings and SHAZAM 💥💥👀 all is well. I'm thinking there was something wiggy with the Phillips monitor. The first replacement as I said was fine but kept randomly going blank, so I Tried the Philips, Bad idea. For the recent suggestions offered Yes I did try tweaking the windows and monitor settings. Never did get a call back from Philips which used to be a good company. I did stumble across the following which I was not able to reconcile. And there is nothing new their currently. The below is above my pay grade but it might make sense to somebody so I thought I'd include it. Thanks for the assistance, sometimes its just the comradery that helps
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There are few times on the internet I wish I had had mine on. I guess the helmet works for visual viruses?
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The below is above my pay grade but it might make sense to somebody so I thought I'd include it. Thanks for the assistance, sometimes its just the comradery that helps You got deeper into geekdom than I ever dreamed you would. I can't say I've EVER seen a monitor show up in device manager with a problem, let alone see one set an event. Never have I bought a bad monitor, even used, two in a row, time to buy a lottery ticket. I'm glad you finally got it sorted out.
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The below is above my pay grade but it might make sense to somebody so I thought I'd include it. Thanks for the assistance, sometimes its just the comradery that helps You got deeper into geekdom than I ever dreamed you would. I can't say I've EVER seen a monitor show up in device manager with a problem, let alone see one set an event. Never have I bought a bad monitor, even used, two in a row, time to buy a lottery ticket. I'm glad you finally got it sorted out.
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here's a monitor question. hope this isn't a jack........... is it possible to hook up two, use the same keyboard, but have them show different things at the same time ? Something like so? video card with 4 outputs.
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Something like so? video card with 4 outputs. had to ask as I'm illiterate on the subject but, your picture shows 1 of the 4 connections is different. Is that an in or and out? Nope, no in and out on this video card, output only. Three of the outputs are Display Port, the last is HDMI. and Why are they different I'd guess most folks just run one monitor, so there's a choice of DP and HDMI? I'd have preferred all 4 be DP. Beggars and choosers... and I get quite frustrated with 💩 I don't know or understand. And to be truthful it was one of the things I wondered about with the "problem" monitor as I was using the "different" one. Then they had one of the others labeled "DISPLAY Input" WTFO???? Display Input on the monitor is for the output of the video card. If there's a display output on the monitor, that gets you into daisy chaining. If you're familiar with antique speedy computers, it's a bit similar to SCSI chains. Let's say you've got only one video output on your video card, you can use the monitor video inputs and outputs to hook up multiple monitors, as long as they're all DP's and your video card has adequate horsepower. Then there's DP 1.2 and 1.4, can't recall off hand which one is needed for daisy chaining. I tried to be clear and complete here, I've been doing it a long time so I've probably left something out, just ask.
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Based on the cost of a high performance single 4K HDMI output video card, I can't imagine the cost for what is likely a rather rare 4Kx4 card would cost nor the real need, nor the power it would consume, while stressing the computer PS.
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Based on the cost of a high performance single 4K HDMI output video card, I can't imagine the cost for what is likely a rather rare 4Kx4 card would cost nor the real need, nor the power it would consume, while stressing the computer PS. No worries, I can afford it. Had my vision deteriorated like this earlier, I might have gone with a large television as a monitor. C'est la vie. https://www.ebay.com/itm/134733085456?
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Something like so? video card with 4 outputs. had to ask as I'm illiterate on the subject but, your picture shows 1 of the 4 connections is different. Is that an in or and out? Nope, no in and out on this video card, output only. Three of the outputs are Display Port, the last is HDMI. and Why are they different I'd guess most folks just run one monitor, so there's a choice of DP and HDMI? I'd have preferred all 4 be DP. Beggars and choosers... and I get quite frustrated with 💩 I don't know or understand. And to be truthful it was one of the things I wondered about with the "problem" monitor as I was using the "different" one. Then they had one of the others labeled "DISPLAY Input" WTFO???? Display Input on the monitor is for the output of the video card. If there's a display output on the monitor, that gets you into daisy chaining. If you're familiar with antique speedy computers, it's a bit similar to SCSI chains. Let's say you've got only one video output on your video card, you can use the monitor video inputs and outputs to hook up multiple monitors, as long as they're all DP's and your video card has adequate horsepower. Then there's DP 1.2 and 1.4, can't recall off hand which one is needed for daisy chaining. I tried to be clear and complete here, I've been doing it a long time so I've probably left something out, just ask. Still a bit confused ( No surprise there ) original monitor used an HDMI cable, the first replacement only had a DP (dumb Pollock) connector. So I found a corresponding port on the computer and changed the cable. The current monitor used the same so it was plug and play So my question is (which is irrelevant at this point) which is better or does it matter? And thank you for responding
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So my question is (which is irrelevant at this point) which is better or does it matter? And thank you for responding IMHO, Display Port is better, if only for the reason it avoids the issue HDMI sometimes has of over or under scanning. It's easily corrected in your video card software but I'd rather not have to fool with it. DP and HDMI both also carry audio signals, so there can be a bit less spaghetti behind the desk. 2¢ Just yesterday I went through a long process (couple hours) of trouble shooting a monitor that would not come on. I had it hooked up through the HDMI port of the video card, with a powered HDMI to DP adapter and a very long cheap DP cable. After determining there was nothing wrong with the video card output or the monitor, I got an even longer HDMI cable and resolved the problem. The monitor is a 2013 model, no under or over scan issue arose so things may have changed. Better video cards or better software, I've no idea. Just happy it worked.
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Effectively better IMO, HDMI.
Reminds me of the quickly fell by the wayside better Video format, Betamax.
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So my question is (which is irrelevant at this point) which is better or does it matter? And thank you for responding IMHO, Display Port is better, if only for the reason it avoids the issue HDMI sometimes has of over or under scanning. It's easily corrected in your video card software but I'd rather not have to fool with it. DP and HDMI both also carry audio signals, so there can be a bit less spaghetti behind the desk. 2¢ Just yesterday I went through a long process (couple hours) of trouble shooting a monitor that would not come on. I had it hooked up through the HDMI port of the video card, with a powered HDMI to DP adapter and a very long cheap DP cable. After determining there was nothing wrong with the video card output or the monitor, I got an even longer HDMI cable and resolved the problem. The monitor is a 2013 model, no under or over scan issue arose so things may have changed. Better video cards or better software, I've no idea. Just happy it worked. Sounds like me with the 3rd monitor
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