Nice try Hotchkis
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Spent more $ on the Hotchkis part vs buying ProForged and this is what I get when I open the box. Kudos to Summit for refunding the difference but we need to stop accepting this type of practice.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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Just another reason to save all the old stuff you can.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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08/26/23 05:04 PM
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That seems dishonest to me, if it's the same exact part and not mis-packaging: are the part descriptions the same ?
A buddy of mine makes racecar tools, and sells them to Summit, Jeg's, Speedway, and others. They're all identical in materials, specification, and testing, except if the retailer wants their name etched/printed on the tool. They all sell for about the same price, like within a buck, last time I looked, but business has expanded since then. He doesn't control the retail price, though, so there could be someone marking them up more than the other guys do.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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this practice is commonly known and referred to as private labeling. many companies do this as a way to save money on manufacturing and sell at a high rate of return.
does the quality appear to be the same?
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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08/26/23 10:05 PM
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this practice is commonly known and referred to as private labeling. many companies do this as a way to save money on manufacturing and sell at a high rate of return.
does the quality appear to be the same? Visually they appear to be ok, but I have nothing to compare them to. I get private label products and what not, but only if price is identical, or less. Hotchkis selling these for $20 more vs buying them from ProForged is slimy. You pick a brand because you've come to trust their quality, or their marketing, so if you can't trust they sent you genuine parts then I can't do business with you any longer. Just my $0.02.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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Spent more $ on the Hotchkis part vs buying ProForged and this is what I get when I open the box. Kudos to Summit for refunding the difference but we need to stop accepting this type of practice. You might want to check with Hotchkis to make sure somebody didn't return that in the wrong box. No reason to trash them without knowing for sure. I ordered a pair of Hotchkis cuda subframe connectors from streetside and when I opened the box someone had returned their challenger connectors in the wrong box. I called Hotchkis and told them what happened and they sent the right ones that day along with a free shipping tag to return the wrong ones even though they weren't responsible for the mistake.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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08/28/23 12:15 PM
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The other possibility that I've seen a lot lately, people buy both, switch the parts in the boxes and return the cheaper, lesser part in the more expensive box. I’ve had a variation of this when buying from Amazon. I’ve received things that were clearly opened and one piece taken out. If the retailer doesn’t check the return, they will send it right back out the way it came in. I’ve noticed Costco getting more picky about looking in boxes the last couple years where before returns were simply scanned and set behind the counter.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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I always ask myself if a vendor is capable of making said part or capable of designing something and having it made exclusively for them.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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The other possibility that I've seen a lot lately, people buy both, switch the parts in the boxes and return the cheaper, lesser part in the more expensive box. I’ve had a variation of this when buying from Amazon. I’ve received things that were clearly opened and one piece taken out. If the retailer doesn’t check the return, they will send it right back out the way it came in. I’ve noticed Costco getting more picky about looking in boxes the last couple years where before returns were simply scanned and set behind the counter. Menards and Home Depot come to mind
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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Recently on FB Dakota page a member proudly showed his new upper ball joints installed. Said he used an electric impact gun from Harbor Freight to remove/unthread the upper ball joints. He said now he can return the impact for a refund. I asked him why return it as he will have more use for it in the future. He said he only needed it for the Ball Joint job and wanted his money back. When I bought my small Vulcan mig welder from HF the employee said "Please don't use it for your project then return it." People are frivolous cheap fools.
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Re: Nice try Hotchkis
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Worse one I've seen; my Father in Law is changing his oil, the new oil came from Wal-Mart. He opens the oil and realizes that someone put their old oil in the containers and returned them. I do this on every oil change. I put the old oil in the original container and return it to Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart takes your old oil for disposal for free. They just limit you to 3 gallons per day. I can easily see how someone could see a new looking container sitting on the floor by the desk and returned it to the shelf without checking it. That's on Wal-Mart...not someone returning used oil for a refund.
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