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K&N Flow Control #31546
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Anyone use one of these? I just picked up the version for a Dominator carb. I'll give it a try next time I take the engine to the dyno. The last K&N stub stack I tried was a major failure. Hopefully this one works better.

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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31547
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Here is what it looks like on the inside.

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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31548
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Here is the lid. It has a big airflow vane that hangs down in the center. I guess the theory is that the air will be directed down into the carb by this vane.

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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31549
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That is something I haven't seen yet, interesting. Please let us know the results. I have tested the Extreme lid on the engine dyno and lost 8 hp both times we tested it and lost .03 to .04 by not running it on the car at the track. Go figure, I guess that backs up the WJ saying that its good that we don't race dynos.


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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: Cab_Burge] #31550
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I take the lack of posts to mean either a lack of interest or maybe nobody has seen this setup before. Either way I'm going to test it on the dyno next chance I get and we'll see what happens.

Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31551
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I tested one of those on a restricted engine 350SBC with a 4412. It made ten or so hp difference which is quite a bit in a restricted engine. From what I remember we had to change the jetting a few sizes. I wonder if it would make as much difference where you have enough carb.

Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31552
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The one's for the edelbrocks are junk, they screw up the metering. The holley one's work good though. I have seen engines pick up a few hp with them.


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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31553
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That is the air filter I run on my car. It was an improvement over the top feed uni filter I was using. Tomorrow at Atco I was planning on making back to back passes with the two as well as swapping out the team-G for the Victor with the adaptor.

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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #31554
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Ive got one for the 4150 for sale, hint hint. I noticed no gain. it fits over the carb stud not an enclosed air box like above.I cant use it with my x-top and k&n base. BTW nice car DAP!

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I have always used the 16" machined aluminum drop base air cleaner from C&S on my dominator. My car has tyically gone slower w/o the air cleaner.

I have not seen what you have and would be interested in knowing what you find out

Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: OriginalRT] #31556
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Dap, I will be interested in your testing.
I have a K & N extreme assembly on the Dart and had thought of changing to the Uni filter for aerodynamics. I may just have to put a hood scoop on and ditch the filter idea...

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ahhhhh, whats it do with a scoop! anyone tried it with one?

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ahhhhh, whats it do with a scoop! anyone tried it with one?




I'd think it would really positively effect a scoop setup.


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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: Dap] #31559
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I can see why the uni would not work well with your hood,unless it is sealed,the rear of a uni stops air from comming in, whereas the K&N would let it come in from the rear

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Dap, I will be interested in your testing.
I have a K & N extreme assembly on the Dart and had thought of changing to the Uni filter for aerodynamics. I may just have to put a hood scoop on and ditch the filter idea...




Pro stock big O scoop would look great on your dart

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ya but I really don't like the big obtrusive scoops anymore. Besides, my hood is cut for hat injection which I would love to run in the future, just not sure how it with throttlestop. I think the uni's look much cooler than K & N setup, need to be sure they are NOT TOO restrictive.

Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: MegaDart] #31562
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I have run the K&N filter a couple of times. Never tested it against anything else though. I just prefer to run an air filter on my cars, juts like I prefer mufflers to open headers. IMO any air filter is a good thing..


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Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: AndyF] #31563
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I had one of these at one time because I couldn't fit my hood on with the 2" spacer to run the dominator. I never did any tests because without the hood I had to have an air cleaner on. Mine was a reg circle base that did Not contour with the venturies, it was like a reg air cleaner base. I can't do any test for you with it because I loaned it to my buddy with the 64 gold polara in the KOS racing and he had 2 NOS backfires and now it is kind of broken apart. The lid does fly off the car pretty good, he didn't have a hood on at the time because the backfires busted his scoop on the hood. It is all fixed now he had a NOS selinoid that was bad.

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I have one...
On the dyno the engine that I tried it on lost 12 hp ...4150 style carb

Re: K&N Flow Control [Re: RobR] #31565
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I have one...
On the dyno the engine that I tried it on lost 12 hp ...4150 style carb




Rob, was that versus no air cleaner at all or comparing it to something else?
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