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No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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A bad idea being imposed: https://www.radioworld.com/news-and...9-B3B9E02A3D1D&utm_source=SmartBriefsample quote NASBA says the automakers “are cutting corners on expensive new electric vehicles” by eliminating AM radios, which means more than 4,000 AM stations in the United States are at risk. But its survey results show that AM radio across the country provides a diverse mix of music and talk and is a vital link for millions of listeners. end quote Opposite opinion: they did it to themselves with their choice of programming and commercials https://www.radioworld.com/columns-...9-B3B9E02A3D1D&utm_source=SmartBriefsample quote The average person, which is about 95% of the population, couldn’t care less about audio fidelity. The days of “audiophiles” are gone. The downturn of AM listenership is almost exclusively due to poor programming, poor content. Yes, FM in its early days was mostly easy listening, beautiful music and classical music. It catered to the audiophiles, and had a very limited audience even though it sounded great and in 1963 by offering multiplex stereo. Once a few of the FM guys realized people were fed up with the 45 minute commercial breaks on AM stations with popular music, the format was adopted on FM, but with none or few commercials (because no one wanted to advertise on FM). Once people found out they could get the rock and pop music on FM without all the talk, the band switch started taking place. end quote 360view’s techie opinion: The 20+ years of dilly-dallying by the static free United Nations committee “ Digital Radio Mondiale” or DRM transmission radio tech standars hurt Shortwave and domestic AM. India is the only government making the DRM switch
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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I was turned on to FM in the late '60s in SoCal, where a station would play the whole side of, say, Led Zep 1, or Miles Davis' "[censored]'s Brew", or whatever. Very little talking/commercials, and cleaner reception than AM, which was largely Top 40, stick & ball sports, & Talk. I've only listened to AM in the last few decades because someone else in the car or truck wanted to hear some talk radio. One of my cars has a CD player, 3 have cassette players, and I never listen to anything other than the car in my Mopars & not often in the Mustang or Dually. I have no idea how to work an Ipod, let alone everything since  and the concept of Infotainment in a car is odd to me. So, I'm not the demographic for all this stuff, but I would think AM is valuable to a lot of folks.
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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After the EMPs drop you'll wish you had an old AM tube or crystal radio, and a station to tune in to...
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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After the EMPs drop you'll wish you had an old AM tube or crystal radio, and a station to tune in to... After the EMP drop you won't be worrying about doodly.
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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Don't listen to AM but hey, they want to cut the price, about 1/2 of the electronic crap should go. Electronic brakes, trans shifting, steering, All that BS safety crap for people that should apparently not have a license because they can't backup, change lanes, or maintain a safe drive distance. Boom, Just lopped off about 6k off the price of a vehicle. Oh, Take that "Infotainment screen" and toss it..
On a slightly different subject, has anyone noticed that nobody is really making music anymore.???? I know we get stuck in certain eras music-wise, but I was thinking about this the other day, and I don't think anything has really come out for about 10 years now. There was a time when Limp Bizcut, Saliva, etc just rocked new stuff for about 10 years. Starting around 2010, nothing. I listen to the radio now and it is literally noise. Bands I have never heard of(and I keep up with stuff) playing noise that yeah, it is someone singing, but really, just noise.
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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Our new car has am and fm and Sirius we don't listen to am really now at all.And no both our vehicles are not EV either   burning fossil fuels baby!
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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A bad idea being imposed: https://www.radioworld.com/news-and...9-B3B9E02A3D1D&utm_source=SmartBriefsample quote NASBA says the automakers “are cutting corners on expensive new electric vehicles” by eliminating AM radios, which means more than 4,000 AM stations in the United States are at risk. But its survey results show that AM radio across the country provides a diverse mix of music and talk and is a vital link for millions of listeners. end quote Opposite opinion: they did it to themselves with their choice of programming and commercials https://www.radioworld.com/columns-...9-B3B9E02A3D1D&utm_source=SmartBriefsample quote The average person, which is about 95% of the population, couldn’t care less about audio fidelity. The days of “audiophiles” are gone. The downturn of AM listenership is almost exclusively due to poor programming, poor content. Yes, FM in its early days was mostly easy listening, beautiful music and classical music. It catered to the audiophiles, and had a very limited audience even though it sounded great and in 1963 by offering multiplex stereo. Once a few of the FM guys realized people were fed up with the 45 minute commercial breaks on AM stations with popular music, the format was adopted on FM, but with none or few commercials (because no one wanted to advertise on FM). Once people found out they could get the rock and pop music on FM without all the talk, the band switch started taking place. end quote 360view’s techie opinion: The 20+ years of dilly-dallying by the static free United Nations committee “ Digital Radio Mondiale” or DRM transmission radio tech standars hurt Shortwave and domestic AM. India is the only government making the DRM switch AM radio has already been deleted out of some new cars/trucks including EVs manufactured by BMW, Porsche, Audi, Volvo, Ford F-150 Lightning truck, Volkswagen SUV and Tesla Model S. Basic reason is not cost but rather the electronic inverter & PWM power supply circuits within an EV vehicle generate AM interference making AM radio reception impossible... Just my $0.02.... 
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Re: No AM on new car radios: dueling opinions
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AM radio has already been deleted out of some new cars/trucks including EVs manufactured by BMW, Porsche, Audi, Volvo, Ford F-150 Lightning truck, Volkswagen SUV and Tesla Model S. Basic reason is not cost but rather the electronic inverter & PWM power supply circuits within an EV vehicle generate AM interference making AM radio reception impossible... Just my $0.02.... And that is just crappy engineering. It's not impossible, just more expensive.
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