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Pinion snubber setting - #314335
05/11/09 01:33 AM
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I fitted my adj pinion snubber and it makes contact with the floor pan even on the lowest setting.

I estimate theres about 3/16ths of crush from the "zero lash-just touching" position.

Not a huge amount but am I going to hurt the car by driving it with this setting, or will I just wear through snubbers more quickly?


67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314336
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Seriously ... the proper SETTING for a PS ....is sitting out by the dumpster. Just get some good springs on the car - SET the pinion angle down a tad ...and you are done with it.

If you are almost touching the floor with the PS now ... the car will not "hook" properly and it will look like a KANGEROO going down the track.

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: dOoC] #314337
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Took it for a ride and you're not far wrong!! Hit a bump and it was most entertaining for a while....

Guess I'll get the springs re-set to provide some clearance, they need it anyway.

I run spring clamps as well, but I like the snubber for extra insurance.

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Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314338
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whats wrong with the snubber setup? i was going to run heavy duty leafs with an adjustable snubber on my street/ strip car thinking it was going to help my traction.. atleast thats what the chassis manual tells me

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: mshred] #314339
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whats wrong with the snubber setup? i was going to run heavy duty leafs with an adjustable snubber on my street/ strip car thinking it was going to help my traction.. atleast thats what the chassis manual tells me




A PS was/is a bandaid for wornout springs. With the
springs you can today there's no reason for it. Also
do you see a race car with one? If you get that much
pinion wind up you need springs

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: MR_P_BODY] #314340
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If you try an race with a snubber its prob gunna cause some problems. I dont no anything about using one on the street though.


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Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314341
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Mal,i have the same problem on my Satellite.I have the mopar heavy duty rear springs and only have minimal clearance.
I fitted Rancho rear shocks and clamped the front half of the springs.I still have some tyre spin with or without the snubber-no you can't use it on the street.But i do have good seperation.
I may cut down the snubber body to give more clearance,i have the screw type from Mancini.
I am off to order adjustable front shocks
Tex

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Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314342
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Took it for a ride and you're not far wrong!! Hit a bump and it was most entertaining for a while....

Guess I'll get the springs re-set to provide some clearance, they need it anyway.

I run spring clamps as well, but I like the snubber for extra insurance.




Wanna' build a budget set of SS springs ?

You can do-it for the cost of a sledge-hammer and two spare main leafs ! PUT that spare main leaf in ...minus the ends ...and "rebuild" it(with the sledge hammer) as the second leaf ...and "rebuild" the rest. After they are all together - CLAMP the front half and leave the rear-parts UNclamped. Then ... make sure you have a slight nose-down attitude of the pinion(with proper shims). GET the longest shocks you can ... a C body type will work .....

THERE you go.

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: dOoC] #314343
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MSHRED - There's nothing wrong with a snubber as an "assist" to compensate - I ran one on my BW diff in the street for years but I had a decent amount of clearance. Its true they dont like bumps under WOT though....

Most guys don't use them because they can get SS springs and with fitted spring clamps theres no need for anything more.

Mr P Body - Im sorry but I dont reckon the snubber is any more a "band aid" than a spring clamp - its just a different way of doing things- I think I mentioned in another thread that the A Body SS springs don't fit our Chargers, so its clamps and a snubber for the short term unless I can get Doc to explain his spring modification....

Tex - You have an IM

Doc - You have me intrigued - how do the get the "ends" of the main leaf? - maybe I can make a up a stiffer right spring...... ..

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314344
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I run the snubber 1 inch from the floor pan with espo xhd springs unclamped rear and clamped front. car launches hard and straight. guess every setup is different though

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: dOoC] #314345
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Quote:

Seriously ... the proper SETTING for a PS ....is sitting out by the dumpster. Just get some good springs on the car - SET the pinion angle down a tad ...and you are done with it.

If you are almost touching the floor with the PS now ... the car will not "hook" properly and it will look like a KANGEROO going down the track.


the correct setting is in the trash

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314346
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Doc - You have me intrigued - how do the get the "ends" of the main leaf? - maybe I can make a up a stiffer right spring...... ..




What he is referring to is using a double main leaf,
I use to do this years ago... just cut the eye off
the spring . I use to clamp a 3/8 thick steel plate
(same width as the spring)from the front eye to just
past the axle mounts

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: MR_P_BODY] #314347
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OK thanks Mr P -
Where does the sledgehammer come in?

Re: Pinion snubber setting - [Re: Moparmal] #314348
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mal ... the S H ? ... to use to reshape the spring.

So ...what time and day is it in OZ ?

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