Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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The specs are misleading; the 1009 is questionable IMO on anything larger than 4.350. I've used them on 4.375", but my cylinders had absolutely no chamfer at the top that let the gasket overhang into the bores. Others haven't been so lucky and the torched gasket between cylinders is the result. FWIW, the Fel-Pro marine gasket (17059?) has a true 4.500" bore and may be a better choice.
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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As Brad mentioned it's not the bore size that's important it's the bore chamfer size. Some have a chamfer that is big enough for the gasket to hang out. If the chamfer O.D. is bigger than the gasket I.D. then the gasket will burn and damage the block and head.
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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I guess I'm going to have to pull the heads back off and check as we put them on the motor about 3 years ago. The engine still hasn't been run and it is still on the stand. Being the engine hasn't been run, will the gaskets still be O.K. to use if the gasket is not intefering with the cylinder bore?
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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I guess I'm going to have to pull the heads back off and check as we put them on the motor about 3 years ago. The engine still hasn't been run and it is still on the stand. Being the engine hasn't been run, will the gaskets still be O.K. to use if the gasket is not into with the cylinder bore? Yes
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: Piston to valve clearance question
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As Brad mentioned it's not the bore size that's important it's the bore chamfer size. Some have a chamfer that is big enough for the gasket to hang out. If the chamfer O.D. is bigger than the gasket I.D. then the gasket will burn and damage the block and head. Yep. I have a 400 block that's bored to 4.375. I had to return Cometic's with a 4.410 I.D. The gaskets looked good on TFS 270's. But overhung the chamfer on the block just enough enough in most or all cylinders, that I exchanged them for the 4.5 bore gaskets.
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