Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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ok John, no worries what you do is cool man. You to buddy. Some people compare dyno sheets and some guys RACE.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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You dyno and horsepower guys kill me. Lol. Get the damn thing to the race track and put in some work. My little 422 with a solid lifter cam has gone a best of 5.98 and a boat-load of low 6.00’s. Not at some coastal super track either. Off the shelf pistons, no vacuum pump, no special ring packs, and a bracket sized tire 4 inches bigger than needed. Sure it’s 2880 pounds but yours could be too.
John, i think you missed a point. To meet both goals, pumpgas and season long reliability in a bigblock, it can be done, but will push stock blocks hard to achieve it. I want to hear Dragula won a season championship in shat air, run 5.900 in doing so and only had to change oil and check lash for the next season. That takes a pretty conservative, large motor to do. So that is my thoughts on how to get there based on experiance. The low stress is key, and allows money to be spent on a good base, like an aluminum block. With a combo like that, a data base for racing can get real long and accurate, unlike my last fifteen years of chasing ets.
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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TF270 vs. Indy 325 Big EZ1.....on a 512/400 ......B1's are not being considered due to special pistons required.
What's your thoughts? Which will make more HP? About to pull the trigger here.
The only base info with regard to a TF270 going 5.90's was HP given from a dyno. I wouldn't trust (spend money) based on that. Unless you are trying to be the first at something. That 470 Could have run 6.20's then what? You'd be stuck (spending more money). Has anyone gone 5.90's with the 325EZ? Again just curious.
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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This car has EZ heads on it. Last year he ran a stock block 505 with TF270 heads on it. The 505 made about 750 hp with the TF270 heads, makes even more with the EZ heads although now he has a 572 inch shortblock under the EZ heads.
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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The TF270 vs EZ295 vs EZ325, on a 800hp type 540+ short block would be a fun dyno shoot out. Then finish it off with some 440-1 cnc345’s.
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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This car has EZ heads on it. Last year he ran a stock block 505 with TF270 heads on it. The 505 made about 750 hp with the TF270 heads, makes even more with the EZ heads although now he has a 572 inch shortblock under the EZ heads. What did it et with the 505?
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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The TF270 vs EZ295 vs EZ325, on a 800hp type 540+ short block would be a fun dyno shoot out. Then finish it off with some 440-1 cnc345’s. Where do a set of maxed out B-1 heads fit in this line up?
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The TF270 vs EZ295 vs EZ325, on a 800hp type 540+ short block would be a fun dyno shoot out. Then finish it off with some 440-1 cnc345’s. Where do a set of maxed out B-1 heads fit in this line up? Imo, “Maxed out” B-1’s wouldn’t even be part of the conversation unless one was shooting for, and building something capable of over 900hp.
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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This is Andy F's old 514 with Indy EZ heads and a hand ported Victor Intake it went a best of 9.64 @ 138, 1.33 60' @ 3800 lbs with me 210lbs on a 9" slick Super Victor intake with a Dominator, or Victor?
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This is Andy F's old 514 with Indy EZ heads and a hand ported Victor Intake it went a best of 9.64 @ 138, 1.33 60' @ 3800 lbs with me 210lbs on a 9" slick This engine makes good power for Indy EZ heads. I'm sure there's more in it based on the mph/weight/ET not lining up. Probably a solid 850HP. Nice car/combo!
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Re: Lets talk Heads.....
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This is Andy F's old 514 with Indy EZ heads and a hand ported Victor Intake it went a best of 9.64 @ 138, 1.33 60' @ 3800 lbs with me 210lbs on a 9" slick This engine makes good power for Indy EZ heads. I'm sure there's more in it based on the mph/weight/ET not lining up. Probably a solid 850HP. Nice car/combo! Looks that way. That 514 usually made between 850 and 900 hp on the dyno when we were using it for part testing but in those days it had a dry sump system as well as a Wilson ported intake so it isn't the same combo that we ran: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/modify-carburetor-run-oxygenated-race-gas/
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