Reminds me of Cobra Kit Cars, yes they look like the original but not really an original. But because there were so few originals built it's a good alternative but that's not the case with original Challengers lots of workable shells and even some originals that are /6's or 318's to work with. A few years back I had a /6 rolling body Challenger that needed a few panels, partial trunk floor and I had to move it and get rid of it. I had several projects way ahead of this Challenger so I put it on here and asked $800 or best offer.....NO TAKERS OR EVEN AN OFFER. So it was crunch time or make that CRUSH time as I had only a few days to get it gone. I asked $250 or any offer by the following Sunday or it was going to the crusher AND STILL NO OFFER or interest. A nice young man from Kentucky PM'd me and begged me not to crush it at the very last hour and drove up overnight with his girlfriend and with a trailer and took it away. The thing that really got me was the lack of interest in 1, saving a Mopar/Challenger and why Dynacom or anyone else thought to make Challenger body parts versus Barracuda body parts. I'm pretty sure if it was a /6 Barracuda it would have sold for two or three time the price of my original asking price. IMO Cuda's are more desirable than back in the day Challengers, apologizes to the Chally boys and girls just my own personal opinion.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Andrewh]
#3020072 03/01/2207:52 PM03/01/2207:52 PM
Expensive both routes, to the point that I don't think any savings would be what sets them apart. You couldn't give me one of those reproduction bodies. There are plenty of basket case, unused, or driver quality original options out there.
actually there was a new law passed I thought. small manufactures could produce a small number of turn key cars and be based on what they were supposed to be vs new manufactuer. I remember that from a few years back.
I believe it's 500 a year, has to meet current emissions but not current safety.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Sniper]
#3020086 03/01/2208:47 PM03/01/2208:47 PM
actually there was a new law passed I thought. small manufactures could produce a small number of turn key cars and be based on what they were supposed to be vs new manufactuer. I remember that from a few years back.
I believe it's 500 a year, has to meet current emissions but not current safety.
Odd nobody has jumped on that, with a modern power-train I'd think emissions would be attainable, but maybe not?
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Dart 500]
#3020104 03/01/2209:40 PM03/01/2209:40 PM
you are misrepresenting this fake made in Taiwan body as a real Challenger,
You find an original hemi 'cuda. Drivetrain was pulled and stored indoors. Dash with VIN and fender tag are all there including build sheet BUT the shell is rotted away up to the shock towers.
Now tell us you wouldn't put together a Dynacorn car !!
A "rebody" and replacing every piece of sheet metal are one and the same! The car is only "original" ONCE.
Have to agree with this. Even just going as far as the floor boards, trunk pans and rear quarters.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: A12]
#3020118 03/01/2210:58 PM03/01/2210:58 PM
Reminds me of Cobra Kit Cars, yes they look like the original but not really an original. But because there were so few originals built it's a good alternative but that's not the case with original Challengers lots of workable shells and even some originals that are /6's or 318's to work with. A few years back I had a /6 rolling body Challenger that needed a few panels, partial trunk floor and I had to move it and get rid of it. I had several projects way ahead of this Challenger so I put it on here and asked $800 or best offer.....NO TAKERS OR EVEN AN OFFER. So it was crunch time or make that CRUSH time as I had only a few days to get it gone. I asked $250 or any offer by the following Sunday or it was going to the crusher AND STILL NO OFFER or interest. A nice young man from Kentucky PM'd me and begged me not to crush it at the very last hour and drove up overnight with his girlfriend and with a trailer and took it away. The thing that really got me was the lack of interest in 1, saving a Mopar/Challenger and why Dynacom or anyone else thought to make Challenger body parts versus Barracuda body parts. I'm pretty sure if it was a /6 Barracuda it would have sold for two or three time the price of my original asking price. IMO Cuda's are more desirable than back in the day Challengers, apologizes to the Chally boys and girls just my own personal opinion.
I agree I’d walk over 4 Challengers to get to the rusted out 70 Cuda. $13,500 seems steep for a shell anyway. I was at Carlisle a few years back and AMD had a 71 Cuda made totally from their panels for $22,000, metal shape and figment was terrible, body mans nitemare. You can’t beat original no matter the condition. You know that new metal is not as crisp (seams-edges-ridges) as original either.
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Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: cudaman1969]
#3020182 03/02/2211:49 AM03/02/2211:49 AM
lol, this is not a Ship of Theseus discussion. just trying to figure out at what point is it cheaper to build from scratch vs fixing one. lol. again purely theoretical, as I don't want a hard top car.
I think glass, trim that is any good, rear diff and suspension, oh and at least the interior skeleton parts like seat frames and such, would be hard to pick up for under 4k. so that might give the edge to the rebuild category, except I really envision that one selling closer to 22 to 25k not 18, but could be wrong about the current e-body market.
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Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: 6PakBee]
#3020207 03/02/2201:22 PM03/02/2201:22 PM
lol, this is not a Ship of Theseus discussion. just trying to figure out at what point is it cheaper to build from scratch vs fixing one. lol. again purely theoretical, as I don't want a hard top car.
I think glass, trim that is any good, rear diff and suspension, oh and at least the interior skeleton parts like seat frames and such, would be hard to pick up for under 4k. so that might give the edge to the rebuild category, except I really envision that one selling closer to 22 to 25k not 18, but could be wrong about the current e-body market.
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Me too! I'd always heard it called George Washington's Ax...
lol, this is not a Ship of Theseus discussion. just trying to figure out at what point is it cheaper to build from scratch vs fixing one. lol. again purely theoretical, as I don't want a hard top car.
I think glass, trim that is any good, rear diff and suspension, oh and at least the interior skeleton parts like seat frames and such, would be hard to pick up for under 4k. so that might give the edge to the rebuild category, except I really envision that one selling closer to 22 to 25k not 18, but could be wrong about the current e-body market.
I had to look that up. AND I LIKE IT!
Me too! I'd always heard it called George Washington's Ax...
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Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: not_a_charger]
#3020225 03/02/2202:02 PM03/02/2202:02 PM
Months ago I ran across a guy on Ebay selling new 69-70 fastback mustang rollers with all new bodies and suspension. Price varied by the options you selected, but want to say they were around low twenties + shipping? Motor, trans, interior and paint was up to you.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Andrewh]
#3020277 03/02/2205:58 PM03/02/2205:58 PM
At the heart of this question, I think what the OP to know is what the difference would be. As mentioned earlier you’d have to start out with a complete challenger to even make a go of this. Rust repair is extremely expensive. Just to get a body to clean steel you can easily make $17k disappear. I have found and owned field cars that were correct right down to the nut and bolt but when you open the hood or truck you heard, “crunch!“ Rotten bodies. I’d say on a car that has a completely rusted out body but all the nuts and bolts and goodies are there, a $17,000 Dynacorn body is worth it. If it’s just dented and dinged with the typical quarter panel rust, a rebody would be the furthest thing from my mind because you’ll never get the money back.
I’m listening.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Big Bad Bee]
#3022789 03/11/2203:20 AM03/11/2203:20 AM
I think the difference is who is doing the work? If your doing it yourself, buying the patch panels and have at it is probably cheaper the buying a body shell. If you are paying someone to get it to the same point you can buy a ready to go body at and your shell needs a lot of body panels, its probably about break even. 17 G is a lot of cash, I think I would be checking out some of the high end old car salvage yards for a decent body, that might be the cheapest way to go.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: poorboy]
#3022840 03/11/2211:23 AM03/11/2211:23 AM
I think the difference is who is doing the work? If your doing it yourself, buying the patch panels and have at it is probably cheaper the buying a body shell. If you are paying someone to get it to the same point you can buy a ready to go body at and your shell needs a lot of body panels, its probably about break even. 17 G is a lot of cash, I think I would be checking out some of the high end old car salvage yards for a decent body, that might be the cheapest way to go.
Might be a lot easier getting a car out of a scrap yard if you assure them its only for parts for your dynacorn body and you'll return whats left. I know when some cars enter junk yards there is no legal returning them to the road / ownership.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: Dart 500]
#3022847 03/11/2211:56 AM03/11/2211:56 AM
i blasted this mustang on wednesday for a customer. its dynacorn parts assembled on a jig by a shop semi local to me. They charge 24g vs 33g (Canadian $) from dynacorn. its 100% dynacorn with no ford parts. typical aftermarket parts issues. panels are "ok" but thinner for sure. This one is right hand drive going to Australia once completed. so 24g for a body that needs no rust repair, all new parts. It would be pretty quick to eat that cost up at a bodyshop with the typical mustang rot. Vin numbers? who knows. this is not factory quality parts though. but its a ford and most ford guys dont really care.
so buying a rotten mustang fastback for 15g+ 10g in replacement panels + labor. in this case kind of a no brainer. i know its not a mopar but its dynacorn
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: chrisf]
#3022884 03/11/2201:16 PM03/11/2201:16 PM
no matter what one does these days, it's expen$ive ! when does one say : "just save up more money and buy one done" ? way too easy to get upside down quickly on restorations of "desirable" models, let alone "common" models. i understand personal attachment to dad's 63 valiant 4door sedan, but to restore it ? just me mumbling in my bowl of cheerio's.............. your mileage will vary.
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: moparx]
#3022904 03/11/2201:34 PM03/11/2201:34 PM
This guy has been doing chargers with AMD panels, says all you need is the inner structure, everything else is available from AMD. He's pulled cars from ravines, yards after sitting 30 yrs etc
Re: building dynacorn body vs fixing cost?
[Re: A12]
#3023151 03/12/2210:42 AM03/12/2210:42 AM
actually there was a new law passed I thought. small manufactures could produce a small number of turn key cars and be based on what they were supposed to be vs new manufactuer. I remember that from a few years back.
Sounds like there were a number of conditions to this being possible that only recently got resolved.
A few years back I had a /6 rolling body Challenger that needed a few panels, partial trunk floor and I had to move it and get rid of it. I had several projects way ahead of this Challenger so I put it on here and asked $800 or best offer.....NO TAKERS OR EVEN AN OFFER. So it was crunch time or make that CRUSH time as I had only a few days to get it gone. I asked $250 or any offer by the following Sunday or it was going to the crusher AND STILL NO OFFER or interest. A nice young man from Kentucky PM'd me and begged me not to crush it at the very last hour and drove up overnight with his girlfriend and with a trailer and took it away. The thing that really got me was the lack of interest in 1, saving a Mopar/Challenger and why Dynacom or anyone else thought to make Challenger body parts versus Barracuda body parts. I'm pretty sure if it was a /6 Barracuda it would have sold for two or three time the price of my original asking price. IMO Cuda's are more desirable than back in the day Challengers, apologizes to the Chally boys and girls just my own personal opinion.
I don't regularly browse the for sale ads but I would have been on this like stink on poo. Seems really odd to me that only one other person would have been unless you had some conditions that turned a lot of people off . Next time you have a problem unloading an E body for $800, DM me.
Barracuda is an orphan now. DODGE was NOT going to license a reproduction of a PLYMOUTH. Challenger also has a modern equivalent. Was it the smartest thing to do from a $$ perspective, not from an enthusiasts point of view, but from a corporate bean counter angle, it absolutely does.