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Which diff to build #2949097
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I want to upgrade my diff in my drag car. I have a 8-3/4” under the car now.

Dana 60
Ford 9”

Which one and why?




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Ohhhhh boy here we go. Lol 😂

I have two dusters with Dana’s and one with a 9 inch. I prefer the 9 inch for ease of installation as I have extra gear sets ready to go.


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Before that "OOHHH boy"" onslaught begins, tell us what you have car/motor/suspensionwise and where you are HP/ET.

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Originally Posted by 79410aspenrt
I want to upgrade my diff in my drag car. I have a 8-3/4” under the car now.

Dana 60
Ford 9”

Which one and why?

I'm also onsidering a Ford 9" since myself (and other's) are struggling to find pro gears lower than a 4.10 ratio for a Dana.


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9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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The 9 inch is easier to change gears and has many more gear options then the Dana but it’s really a toss up either way you will be fine over a 8 3/4

Re: Which diff to build [Re: 79410aspenrt] #2949128
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Dana 60 because it is a Mopar and the Dana 60 will last longer.
The nine inch Ford with mostly stock parts has a lot more drag and the stock parts don't live with higher HP with good traction down twocents


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A Dana is a ... Dana. They just happen to have been installed in Mopars !!

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Originally Posted by A/MP
Before that "OOHHH boy"" onslaught begins, tell us what you have car/motor/suspensionwise and where you are HP/ET.


77 RoadRunner tube chassis. 2750 lbs race weight. 340 W2, runs 10.0's at 132 mph. ladder bar suspension.

i want to upgrade the diff as i will be building a new engine. should run in the 9.30-40 range




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Contact Cass at Dr. Diff and let him explain the difference and price.

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Originally Posted by Stanton
A Dana is a ... Dana. They just happen to have been installed in Mopars !!

Correct, there is a Dana 60 installed in our Iveco Van smile


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: Which diff to build [Re: 79410aspenrt] #2949172
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Go with the Strange S-60.


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Originally Posted by 79410aspenrt
Originally Posted by A/MP
Before that "OOHHH boy"" onslaught begins, tell us what you have car/motor/suspensionwise and where you are HP/ET.


77 RoadRunner tube chassis. 2750 lbs race weight. 340 W2, runs 10.0's at 132 mph. ladder bar suspension.

i want to upgrade the diff as i will be building a new engine. should run in the 9.30-40 range


A Dana might work for you, just depends on what gear ratio you need. These days it is probably smarter to go with a nine inch, especially if you might be selling the car down the road. I changed from a Dana 60 to a 9 inch in my Duster since I couldn't buy the correct ratio for the Dana.

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Originally Posted by Stanton
A Dana is a ... Dana. They just happen to have been installed in Mopars !!


And Ford trucks, Ford vans and Chevy trucks.

I have a S-60 in my Dart, if I were doing it over it would be a 9”. Look at all the options for gears and brakes.

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About the cheapest conversion for a rear a lot stronger than an 83 /4 is ( or was) a truck dana with a clutch type posi and a ratio you can use. I found a Dana 60 with 4.10 gears. A used set of 35 spline axles , a disc brake kit, spring pads and I had a strong rear for my 535 stroker on the cheap. The posi didn't survive long but some home made shims added to the clutch pack in the diff locked it up. As I recall it only took one shim made from the end of a 3 lb coffee can to do the trick.
This was done 40 years ago so I have no clue as to what dana 60s go for at the boneyard or what posi's, or ratios are available now days.

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Running a 4.10 gear I’d use the Dana 60. They are cheaper to build of you look around. You can use the brakes off your 8.75. The biggest issue is finding the gear sets like Andy said. If the gear ratio(s) you use are easy to get the D60 is a no brainer. I just had a D60 done for my car. After pricing it out to get the same thing in a 9 it was over a grand more, all else being equal. And I’ll say it again...the oft quoted saying of it’s easier to change the gear sets is just that. Very few people EVER do it the way they claim. Plus, you have the added expense of another third member. I’m a value kind of guy, not the run what everyone else does because it’s trendy. At your power level you should be able to put several hundred runs on a D60 gear set and never think about it. The one thing I didn’t do when I did my D60 was 40 spline axles and spool. I’m just kicking myself right now for not doing that.


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9" with zero Ford parts involved just the engineering with the three pinion supports. I have had all three rears under my Savoy and my easy service diff was by far the 9" Got a Dana under the car now because it was almost free. BUT prefer the 9" twocents

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I have an S60 in my Duster. Have 4.30 gears and 4.56 already on spools. Really doesn’t take that long to swap gears and is certainly cheaper than a whole after market “pig” set up ready to swap. If you do go 9” do your homework on a housing that will hold up. Ladder bar kind of hard on stuff. My rear including rotors/calipers is 198lb.

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Originally Posted by J_BODY
I have an S60 in my Duster. Have 4.30 gears and 4.56 already on spools. Really doesn’t take that long to swap gears and is certainly cheaper than a whole after market “pig” set up ready to swap. If you do go 9” do your homework on a housing that will hold up. Ladder bar kind of hard on stuff. My rear including rotors/calipers is 198lb.
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My S/P car had a Mark Williams Dana 60 with his 40 spline axles and aluminum spool with a set of Pro Gear 5.87 ratio shock, I replace them with a new Moser 40 spline 4 series spool and a used set of Dana stock 4.56 ratio ring and pinion out of a used pick up rear end rom a junk yard. I wanted to use a set of stock Dana 4.10 gears but no one makes a 3 series 40 spline spool whiney shruggy I can reinstalled those Pro gears by changing the rear pinion bearing shim by .003 wrench Probably take me less than 2 hours now, I'm 76 yrs old and getting slower shruggy
The car had a all aluminum KB blown alcohol motor with B1 heads that ran 7.64 at 184+ MPH with the driver weighing under 2600 Lbs. is the story I was told.
I have a lot of runs on those used 4.56 now with a 400 stroker motor on E85, best ET so far is 8.86 at 150. MPH weighing 2850 Lbs. with me in it. No noise or problems with that dana 60 so far luck

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