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New style plastic windage tray #2935068
06/20/21 03:24 PM
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You guys putting these on dry or using sealant on them ? and I think they need some holes drill in it. for drain back ?

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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2935082
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I mudded in some RTV into where the timing cover meets the block and the rear main seal holder, let dry/setup. Other than that, it went on dry


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: metallicareload] #2935084
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Plastic? Oh God no, say it ain't so. down


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: 6PakBee] #2935087
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i'm running one but decided to open the slots up a bit more, well a lot more actually. I think they need some kind of sealant on them as mine weeped oil at the start but i mickey moused a repair for that.

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2935108
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I've had one on my Hemi for 4 years now. I opened the slots some, too. Has worked fine, so far. I used Hylomar on the gaskets.


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: 6PakBee] #2935184
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Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Plastic? Oh God no, say it ain't so. down


They have been out for many years, and work just fine. I've had the same one for almost 10 years now.


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2935194
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I removed mine and hung it on the wall and it never leaks now

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: JERICOGTX] #2935244
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Plastic? Oh God no, say it ain't so. down


They have been out for many years, and work just fine. I've had the same one for almost 10 years now.


I have been living under a rock!! grin


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2935292
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I’ve been running one for years, no issues. Put it in dry, no leaks. Resizable also, just clean with soap and water, I’ve done it. Only thing I did was cut some out of clearance for my homemade pickup tube that I’ve used for years, never opened any holes up. I do know they only work with flat rail oil pans, if not they will leak.

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: WV Runner] #2935411
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I am using it on a repop 6 qt pan. Slathered it with Hylomar and it is good. Easy to pull off too, if I ever need to.


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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2935475
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I would not use silicon except a small dab on the corners for the timing cover to block and rear main seal housing to block. Install dry or better yet a thin film of oil on the raised seal. Those that use Hylomar have it figured out. I would not drill any additional holes. Avoid silicon, or anything that cures rigid. You'll regret the choice to use silicon, especially Right Stuff, on the day you need to remove the windage tray. It'll require dynomite to remove.

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: VernMotor] #2936283
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Yeah, let it dry and drill if no another option.

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mine is currently not leaking ( a first in a long while) and I put it on dry. I also did not drill any additional holes. Birdtracker

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: birdtracker] #2936471
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There are two styles out there; one from Jegs that only works with rigid rail pans, and one from Summit that will work with all pans, including the factory stamped steel ones. I actually just ordered the Summit style. They recommend RTV applied sparingly at the two gaps at the front and rear, struck down and allowed to cure, and the tray installed DRY. Take your time and clean the mating surface thoroughly (scrape, brakleen, etc). I wouldn’t try to torque the bolts to the factory number.

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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: Montclaire] #2936474
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Originally Posted by Montclaire
There are two styles out there; one from Jegs that only works with rigid rail pans, and one from Summit that will work with all pans, including the factory stamped steel ones. I actually just ordered the Summit style. They recommend RTV applied sparingly at the two gaps at the front and rear, struck down and allowed to cure, and the tray installed DRY. Take your time and clean the mating surface thoroughly (scrape, brakleen, etc). I wouldn’t try to torque the bolts to the factory number.


Good to see that they are finally acknowledging what some of us already knew

"This gasket works best with smooth rail oil pans. Dimpled oil pan rail may leak without silicone sealant."

I kept asking , why would you put silicone or any type of sealant on a rubber o-ring molded type gasket ?

Anyways this didn’t work on my 402 Oil Pan many moons ago

Mancini started selling these years ago already

On the Jegs website , I even see Mr Gasket has there own


The Summit Racing doesn’t look any different then the other two that Jegs has listed ?


I still run the factory windage tray , two superformance gaskets dry , and my 402 Oil Pan has been leak free for years

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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: bee1971] #2936558
06/24/21 10:10 PM
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I chicken out and put two superformance gaskets on dry. This car is a pain to pull the pan.. I don't need no leaks. it is a summit brand

Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: Montclaire] #2936680
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Originally Posted by Montclaire
There are two styles out there; one from Jegs that only works with rigid rail pans, and one from Summit that will work with all pans, including the factory stamped steel ones. I actually just ordered the Summit style. They recommend RTV applied sparingly at the two gaps at the front and rear, struck down and allowed to cure, and the tray installed DRY. Take your time and clean the mating surface thoroughly (scrape, brakleen, etc). I wouldn’t try to torque the bolts to the factory number.


I just assumed everyone is selling the same one. I've used two from Summit Racing, purchased years apart, and the've been used on the Mancini Racing stock style 6 quart repro pan (has the stiffening dimples between bolt holes) with no leaks. Installed it like you mention

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Re: New style plastic windage tray [Re: metallicareload] #2936740
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It’s possible that they are, I’ll see if there is any indication of who made the summit one on the packaging. There seem to be more complaints about the Jegs piece so I didn’t question it, but people are funny so who knows.







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