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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: hemicar1971] #290115
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You have to be not to cal Tim at FHO.
He will explain the differences between a crate and what you get with a custom build. #1 is a motor that works.
He's building my motor right now. If you think a crate is just a drop in deal, good luck.
Call him. It's a call that cost's you nothing........Yet

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: The Shadow] #290116
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I built a 472 Hemi.

While I wouldn't trade the knowledge I gained when I built it, and put it into an A-body, a milder wedge would have allowed me a nicer, more driveable car.

Build a big wedge.

BTW. Even doing it myself, I've got over 20G into it.

I stopped counting long ago.

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I agree with the post above...
Who builds the 'biggest bargain'? YOU do. Hemifish 69: Thanks! I don't feel so bad knowing that someone else has over $20k in a homebuilt engine. And like others have stated, it costs even MORE money to install it in a car. Especially a clone.

That said, the hemi is a MAGNIFICENT testament to the ingenuity of mankind that cannot be fully appreciated unless you build it yourself and see how clever the Chrysler engineers were back then. It is very cool to see the final product of a team focused on building a RACE engine rather than just hotrodding a pass-car engine.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: Danan] #290118
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I agree with the post above...
Who builds the 'biggest bargain'? YOU do. Hemifish 69: Thanks! I don't feel so bad knowing that someone else has over $20k in a homebuilt engine. And like others have stated, it costs even MORE money to install it in a car. Especially a clone.

That said, the hemi is a MAGNIFICENT testament to the ingenuity of mankind that cannot be fully appreciated unless you build it yourself and see how clever the Chrysler engineers were back then. It is very cool to see the final product of a team focused on building a RACE engine rather than just hotrodding a pass-car engine.




I am gathering parts for my Hemi as well. Other than the K Member, what else would you need to put it into a non factory Hemi car?


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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: Mad_Scientist] #290119
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I am gathering parts for my Hemi as well. Other than the K Member, what else would you need to put it into a non factory Hemi car?




that depends on how correct you want it to be, or if you are building a car that you aren't concerned about it appearing stock.

after the k member and mounts, it will be sitting in the engine compartment just fine. these are the things i can think of offhand...

- positive battery cable is different
- throttle linkage and cable
- there are pulley and bracket differences
- harmonic balancer
- air cleaner
- 18 spline if it's a 4 speed

i know there are more things, but it escapes me at the moment.

once again, just depends on what you will be building. big block positive battery cable works just fine, depends if you want the hemi one or not, things like that.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: mickm] #290120
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I am gathering parts for my Hemi as well. Other than the K Member, what else would you need to put it into a non factory Hemi car?




that depends on how correct you want it to be, or if you are building a car that you aren't concerned about it appearing stock.

after the k member and mounts, it will be sitting in the engine compartment just fine. these are the things i can think of offhand...

- positive battery cable is different
- throttle linkage and cable
- there are pulley and bracket differences
- harmonic balancer
- air cleaner
- 18 spline if it's a 4 speed

i know there are more things, but it escapes me at the moment.

once again, just depends on what you will be building. big block positive battery cable works just fine, depends if you want the hemi one or not, things like that.




When I did my BB to Hemi swap I used Schumacher conversion mounts, bigblock pulleys and balancer. Don't forget about the 8 bolt flex plate/flywheel bolt pattern on the hemi.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: torkrules] #290121
04/26/09 10:55 PM
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Tim Banning @FHO.. Nice guy with excellent pricing.

He's in Bewdley Ontario so that should save you some money also.




Tim will talk/email you right away. He'll explain everything pretty clearly and won't try to sell you what you don't need. I had an excellent experience with him just recently. Can't say enough good things about him.




OK...I stopped in to see Tim and got the complete tour!! He took the time to explain to me every nuance of the Hemis he builds and I was quite impressed. I'll be starting a thread about the visit within the next day or so.

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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: magnumcharger] #290122
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Tim wouldn't let you take a picture of the new machine in the back shop. That picture is of a smaller part of the old shop at the front. Just wondered if you saw how high the Lake was behind his house.


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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: hemicar1971] #290123
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What? The CNC machine, yup I got a picture of that.

http://s603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/magnumcharger/For%20Hemis%20Only/

And the lake?
Judge for yourself!

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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: magnumcharger] #290124
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Did Tim change your mind on a crate?

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: The Shadow] #290125
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Oh yes...
It's the difference between going to McDonalds for lunch, and going to the Keg.
Both food, but one is made by a chef, and the other is made by your neighbours' kid.

Or in other words, a hand-built custom engine verses an assembly line effort.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: magnumcharger] #290126
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The shop is really impressive. Not many shops are that organized and that clean. The 1965 Block (complete hemi) I believe belongs to a guy on Moparts,can not remember who it is. Tim's spot is right in the middle of one of the good fishing lakes in Ontario, Rice Lake. I wonder if Tim would build a Hemi Boat for the lake, like his old Cuda had. 500 Cubes and 14/71 blower.


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Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: magnumcharger] #290127
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Oh yes...
It's the difference between going to McDonalds for lunch, and going to the Keg.
Both food, but one is made by a chef, and the other is made by your neighbours' kid.

Or in other words, a hand-built custom engine verses an assembly line effort.




That's what we tried to tell ya. Now you can at least see how and where your money gets spent. Quality doesn't cost... it pays.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: 64Post] #290128
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Being a customer of FHO, Tim's prices are inline with the crate motors. It's the upgrades that get you.

Re: Buying a Hemi...who builds the best bargin? [Re: The Shadow] #290129
04/28/09 09:34 PM
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Being a customer of FHO, Tim's prices are inline with the crate motors. It's the upgrades that get you.





yes, but try buying a crate motor, and doing the same upgrades and see what you end up with...

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