trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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I tore up another rear. the pin that runs throught the posi unit came out and ran into the pinion gear and destroyed it. it was the type of posi without the clutch disc in it. this is the 3rd time this type of posi has came apart on me like this. all different cars but same type of posi. the clutch type has never came apart on me like this. is this type of posi unit just not as strong? I have all of the 3 types of cases,741,742,and 489 and i want to build a unit to hold up to my driving. I also have a couple of the clutch style posi units that worked when i puled them out of the cars they were in. I am running a dart with a edelbrock head 360,9.5-1 pistons,488 cam. in it with a 4 speed.the rear is quarter tubbed to fit n50 15 mickey thompsons on it.and i was wanting to run it on street nite at the strip. what case would be best to use? also what one of the posi units is stronger? i will be running 4.30 gears. also what brand of parts would you recomend? thanks.
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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Seeing as you have torn up a couple 8 3/4 centers now, it might be time to look towards a dana. I know your combo isn't making tons of power, but the 4 speed is hard on parts.
If your going to stay with the 8 3/4 , either the 489 or 742 should be your next test ....
-Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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83/4s are bullet proof, what are you talking about? keep rebuilding them
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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I`ll sell you mine. Joke; I use the 742 case and so far it`s holding up but, time will tell. I will eventually get the alum. center section and lighten the car but it`s what`s in it now so I run it. I agree 4-speeds kill stuff.
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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You keep breaking posi units, not the diff or gears. The cone unit is sorta weak so use the clutch type or go to a spool and the spool would be cheaper but harder on the street(cornering)
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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Get a spool, cheap and strong. CHIP
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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I also have a couple of the clutch style posi units that worked when i puled them out of the cars they were in.
like said above, avoid the cone junk. Between the clutch stuff that you already have you could probably come up with enough good clutches for one unit. If one of them has one piece side gears use those. Here is the clutch arrangement in the pic. All info is in the factory service manual but in a nutshell for swapping differentials, adjust gears to zero lash, tighten adjuster that is NOT on the ring gear side to achieve .006-.008" backlash (along with correct diff bearing preload)
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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Get a spool, cheap and strong. CHIP
got to agree with that too. Each of those clutch sure grip are worth at least twice as much as one of those $100 ebay spools.
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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you did,nt say what case you have, 489, ect. I suppose you have a 489 case, cone clutch, with a factory crush sleeve? That is the problem with them. Let us know all the info.
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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forget the 83/4 get a dana
Jeez', It's a 9.5:1 360 with a hydraulic cam for God's sake...and it didn't even break the ring gear or axle shaft, it broke a posi.
"Get a Dana"
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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I think I still have some new clutchs..if you was closer I show you to rebuild them..I ran one one the coronet for years..ran 8.00-7.70 in the 1/8 with one never hurt it.
your flying now, you go vern!!!
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Re: trashed another rear, what rear to use now? 489,742,741
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a dana isint in the budget right now. its either fix the 8 3/4 or let it sit broken.
Let it sit until you can afford a GOOD Dana, small blocks with 4 speeds kill 8 3/4 eventually every time you race them, street or strip In fact any 4 speed Mopar that is raced on the street or strip will break the 8 3/4 eventually if it makes any power and hooks up at all Huh, Quicktree
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