Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: Kippy]
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11/06/20 12:29 PM
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I've never had any luck trying to install the fork with the bearing in, others claim to have done it.
Can you lower the engine more to get a straighter shot or is the pan sitting on the steering link?
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: Kippy]
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11/06/20 02:42 PM
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crackedback
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heat is your friend on those mount plate bolts.
After heating up the bosses, take a punch or drift, drop it into the allen key hole and give it a good smack with a hammer. Shock will help break the bond.
Last edited by crackedback; 11/06/20 02:43 PM.
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: Kippy]
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11/06/20 04:12 PM
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Which motor is in your car? If it is a 383 you may need to change the crankshaft from the automatic tranny to a stick shift tranny Did you install a pilot bearing into the crankshaft? if not they need it also If it is a original automatic tranny 440 you may need to do that also I'm not sure about the SB motors on this issue
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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11/06/20 07:55 PM
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I'm not sure about the SB motors on this issue
I pulled an A904 automatic out of an unmolested, original engine and transmission, 74 Satellite Sebring 318. The Crankshaft was not only drilled for a pilot bushing it had one installed already. I have to wonder if there is any rhyme or reason for some of the things ma mopar does.
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: crackedback]
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11/08/20 11:18 AM
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heat is your friend on those mount plate bolts.
After heating up the bosses, take a punch or drift, drop it into the allen key hole and give it a good smack with a hammer. Shock will help break the bond. Flat head allen bolts like those have a tendancy to stick because of the larger surface area under the head getting a good grip. Use heat and shock as mentioned and it that doesn't loosen them up, take a center punch and use it to drive the screw loose by hitting it at an angle out near the periphery of the head. I have removed tons of stainless flat heads this way and it works on carbon steel as well.
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: gzig5]
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11/08/20 11:43 AM
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heat is your friend on those mount plate bolts.
After heating up the bosses, take a punch or drift, drop it into the allen key hole and give it a good smack with a hammer. Shock will help break the bond. Flat head allen bolts like those have a tendancy to stick because of the larger surface area under the head getting a good grip. Use heat and shock as mentioned and it that doesn't loosen them up, take a center punch and use it to drive the screw loose by hitting it at an angle out near the periphery of the head. I have removed tons of stainless flat heads this way and it works on carbon steel as well. Motorcycle style impact wrench might help out to.
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: AndyF]
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11/08/20 05:16 PM
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I can't imagine trying to do an install under a car anymore. I just put the Doug Nash back together with my engine and it took some work doing on the floor. I had to use the input shaft to double check the fit a couple of times before it would all slide together. That same job would be impossible for me if the engine was in the car. Wow!! Thats very nice Andy... I had the car far enough up so I have enough room but I can see that my days working on my back under a car might be numbered. Exactly last Sunday while under the car I got a bad case of vertigo I had to close my eyes everything was spinning. I got up shut the lights and made my way into the house and called it a day.... I get vertigo every so often... Im happy to report the trans is bolted up... I had read were its said the input shaft may be long for a car with a crankshaft from a auto trans car....Measuring that wasn't the case and so i tried to instill the trans but it wouldn't go all the way in What I found was it was the diameter at the end of the machined hole in crankshaft, it was a smaller diameter then the input shaft, The input shaft was already through the pilot bearing that I gotten from Brewers performance. I measured and cut off about a inch and a quarter of the end of the input shaft, beveled and dressed it up and problem solved Much thanks to members here with their advise and help--------------------Steve
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Re: 4 speed installation
[Re: Kippy]
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11/11/20 09:21 PM
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Leave the spring with a Borg Beck "3 finger" plate remove it with a diaphragm plate is the general rule but I removed mine when I installed a Long style plate. Gus
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