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A "Racing to the stripe" question #283619
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I need some teaching about when to race full out to the stripe and when to back off so you win by a fender.. So I have a question for you all..

Assuming its a clean race.. no one breaks out, no one red lights and no other foul.. Will the first car to the stripe always win?

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: Jeepmon] #283620
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Yes.

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: WILD BILL] #283621
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Yep, that's the name of the game.

Cross the finish line first without breaking out or redlighting.

** not that I actually have any experience doing the above.

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: G_bob] #283622
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Keep your foot in it..letting off or applying the brakes on the topend is the way SISSY race...and is not acceptable by many racers..

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Not always - My car breaks the beams with the tires given the nose swoops upwards. I've lost a race or two where I knew I was there first - only to go over and find a stripe taker hanging underneath the nose of the other guys car. Oh well. Now I look when I'm in the lanes - lesson learned.

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: Jeepmon] #283624
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...but it is more complicated because people play games, like push or lead you till just before the finish, then dump you allowing you to take the stripe anticipating that you will break out!

Some know their cars so well that they know where they are and where they should be through the run. Everything is planned out. Some can dump, some can actually close it up to LESS than a hundredth. People who do play games usually prefer a faster car because they can see the slower car at all times and it's easier to judge what to do at the finish.

Regardless of whether you race all-out to run your dial, sandbag, play games or whatever, you have to be consistent and know how your car's ET is affected by shift points, weather, wind, temps, braking at a certain point on the track, etc. It also helps to have an idea of how your opponent races and what he/she dials in relationship to what they run. Attentive pit crew and an asset.



To expand on what Lil Demon said, some people use the natural long nose or spoiler of their car and/or run soft shocks to dip the nose when braking at the right time to trip the beams also.

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Keep your foot in it..letting off or applying the brakes on the topend is the way SISSY race...and is not acceptable by many racers..




Guess you dont bracket race..... I must be a SISSY

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Keep your foot in it..letting off or applying the brakes on the topend is the way SISSY race...and is not acceptable by many racers..




i would have lost a ton of rounds if i did that

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Keep your foot in it..letting off or applying the brakes on the topend is the way SISSY race...and is not acceptable by many racers..




In class and bracket racing, it is a legal option that many racers do. They take advantage of anything that will help them win races and the rest of the racers simply have to deal with it. Best way to deal with it is to get yourself and the car more consistent and predictable.

However, excessive braking is usually frowned upon and tire smoke at the finish line can lead to a disqualification.

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: Locomotion] #283628
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Yep.....I watched a guy in a beautiful camaro destroy that sucker at the stripe hitting the brakes last weekend at SGMP. He learned the hard way and now has no car

But it's done all the time and I'm guilty myself

Rickster

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: rickstershemi] #283629
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heres a u tube video of my car which is dialed in very good that day, mu opponent i knew was running quicker than his dial in, he was banking on me cutting a bad light or redlighting, so i ran my best, im the blue dodge on the left. watch the left car 63 plymouths dial in and et at the stripe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sn3zGG_aQ

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Keep your foot in it..letting off or applying the brakes on the topend is the way SISSY race...and is not acceptable by many racers..




Guess you dont bracket race..... I must be a SISSY





As a matter of fact i do bracket race...

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As a matter of fact i do bracket race...





And you never let off the pedal or hit the brakes

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #283632
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As a matter of fact i do bracket race...





And you never let off the pedal or hit the brakes





That right keep my foot in it all the way...

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #283633
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I know a lot of guys play the games but I say dial the car and run it out the back and because of that I most likely wont go many rounds LOL


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As a matter of fact i do bracket race...





And you never let off the pedal or hit the brakes





That right keep my foot in it all the way...




I guess you've never been way out front coming near
the finish line, I always let off if the other guy
is cars back... that way I dont break out

Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #283635
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Quote:

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As a matter of fact i do bracket race...





And you never let off the pedal or hit the brakes





That right keep my foot in it all the way...




I guess you've never been way out front coming near
the finish line, I always let off if the other guy
is cars back... that way I dont break out





Yep, if I had looked back at the ProAm I'd have a sweet Ironman sitting in the display case...not to mention a couple of xtra G's in the wallet...

Rickster

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I guess you've never been way out front coming near
the finish line, I always let off if the other guy
is cars back... that way I dont break out





I had a guy go flying by me one day and take the stripe by about 2 cars....I just turned him loose and my win light came on. Later on in the day he was hanging around the staging lanes and I asked him why he didnt lift on me down at the finish line as we were pretty close on the tree and he said he didnt realize we were allowed to let off the gas before the finish line.....

I said ooooook well now I wish I hadnt told you that!



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Re: A "Racing to the stripe" question [Re: moparacer] #283637
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Jeepmon, The goal is to try to get to the stripe first and take as little as possible stripe. I like to shoot for .015 and less. Make sure you also know the finish line at the track. I know of some crooked finish line tracks.

Here is what I go by.

-Know that you hit the tree.
- Trust your car.
- Dial what you think it's going to run

If you know you hit the tree and you can trust your dial the finish line racing becomes much easier.

For example if you hit the tree and your chasing a guy down and you don't catch him....dump him right before the stripe. chances are he is either dead on or breaking out. If you are being chased and the guy hangs a fender on you push him out until the last minute then hit the brakes right before the stripe.

I wouldn't try ' sand baggin ' until you've got the stripe figured out pretty well.

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When racing with a break-out (run-out) rule in effect, never take more stripe than you need. ie if you are ahead, don't cross first by half a car length...


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