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thanks Brentville, I'm going out to the HD now... can't wait to get this thing started. btw the '62 Galaxie's a sweet car
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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I wouldn't want to try to get the filler to stick to the paint. My prep isn't what it could be, I guess that comes with experience, so when I have gotten to this point where I find a blemish that needs to be fixed I just strip the area back down to bare metal, fix it, and go back to painting. I usually find these spots in the first coat or 2 so it hasn't be too big of an issue.
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maybe this has been answered before but has anyone used spot putty ON TOP of the rustoleum? I am painting my Corvair- Black on top, Red on the sides. I have 5 layers of black on the car and have noticed some small spots that I missed. Can I apply some spot putty over the paint after wetsanding and then continue to paint over top of it?
Thanks!!!! The black paint, even with the blemishes still looks AWESOME!
I just joined after reading both of the threads and have already started this on a daily driver. Glad to see most of issues I am having are being had by others, but this question has been plaguing me also. As it is my first paintjob, my prep working left a lot to be desired and now that I have a good feel for the process want to get it right too. Thanks for all the info!
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i have found the topcoat boat paint (top side)as a clear coat that i can spray on. so will it work if i paint the car with rustolium then clear it with the top side?
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maybe this has been answered before but has anyone used spot putty ON TOP of the rustoleum? I am painting my Corvair- Black on top, Red on the sides. I have 5 layers of black on the car and have noticed some small spots that I missed. Can I apply some spot putty over the paint after wetsanding and then continue to paint over top of it?
Spot putty isn't good unless it's catalyzed/hardenred.. it'll shrink on you. I have put skim coat (bondo mix + fiberglass resin) and full bondo mix over rustoleum, with no problems.
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Spot putty isn't good unless it's catalyzed/hardenred.. it'll shrink on you. I have put skim coat (bondo mix + fiberglass resin) and full bondo mix over rustoleum, with no problems.
That's a good point too. I haven't used spot putty since I found that out.
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that is what i thought and i didnt buy it right a way. because the rustolium clear coat here is only sold in spray bombs and i want to buy quarts so i can spray it on...
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Time for another update. First of all I've discovered something wonderful about wet sanding, 240 grit wet and dry sandpaper!!!! This stuff absolutley tears through orange peel and gives a nice flat surface in no time at all. And the best part is that if you sand carefully, it will give a finish that's good enough to paint straight over. I don't know how many hours of sanding the 240 has saved me/will save me but it's pretty close to being the best $1.60 that I've ever spent. Anyways, onto the painting. I've prepped my hardtop, the 'road' boot and the rear spoiler (not the same ones as I've posted about above) and today I painted the hardtop and the spoiler. The front of the spolier came out perfectly but the back has some runs in the paint that I didn't notice until it was too late. I am also pretty happy with how the hardtop turned out... I've also discovered that it's a lot more effective to take the pictures with some background light and no flash. There is still a bit more orange peel in the paint than I would ideally like but once it has recieved its final sanding and a good polish......
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looks good enough to me, although not as good as the other shots, or are they just closer? the roughest paper i've previously gone to is 400 so mayb i should head out and get some 240 lol sorry if i missed it but how thin are you doing it? just as thin as you can before it runs to much or only a bit? i'd love to see ur car in person some time, if there's a good event ur going to let me know
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The paint is thinned out with about 40% mineral spirits and even though it didn't come out as well as the race boot did, I'm still pretty happy with it.
Looking at the first photo, there is a pretty obvious roller mark going from the front of the roof to the back which is about level with the bush in the background. Oh well, so much for no more roller marks....
I should be able to minimise it though with the final wetsanding and a good polish. I hope...
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Yep and when done with the bondo, you might consider spraying some similar color (to your final color) rustoleum (or primer) over the bondo so that the first few coats of final paint mix you're putting on doesn't soak into the bondo and the final color will cover quicker.
A little update. As I posted above, my car had 5 layers on it already of Gloss black- thinned about 35-40%. I wetsanded the whole car with 600 grit and it took quite a while but I got it all smooth. After that I wiped it down with Mineral Spirits and looked for the blemishes.... After the wetsanding most were gone. I must've sanded off quite a bit of paint. There are a few spots left that are small chips- my plan, instead of the bondo is to use the paint as they arent that deep. I am waiting for the 6th coat to harden then I will "drip" a little paint only into the chips. once the drips harden, I will wetsand the whole car again with 1000 grit. that should take care of them.
I thought the 5th layer looked good, but after the serious wetsanding and the 6th coat it looks REALLY good! even with some roller marks in it. I think I both under-estimated and over-etimated how this paint would work... I overestimated how much the paint would fill scratches and such but I under-estimated how shiny and smooth it would look on the car. Im really happy!
About the roller marks- I have been rolling the paint on in one direction, pulling the roller back over the same strip, then moving onto the next strip- then when the panel is done, I go back over the entire panel using only the weight of the roller to smooth it out. It usually looks good when wet but after it dries I can see the roller "strips". Is this normal or am I using too much/ not enough paint?
I'll post pics as soon as I find my Camera- its MIA again.
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how are you guys preparing a primered surface for paint? should i just use a tack cloth to remove any loose particles and dust from the primered surface, or should i also use acetone or maybe mineral spirits to wipe it down with? should i sand the primered surface smooth beforehand, as well?
thanks for any input.
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I used mineral spirits followed by a tack cloth. If I had still had some grease and wax remover I would have used that. After sanding I used my shop air to blow most of the dust off.
should i bother even sanding tha primered surface at all?
also, i was using another brand marine paint. i ended up switching to Brightside (since tha other place i ordered tha other brand from raised tha shipping another $10. i didn't want to pay $20 for s&h).
click tha link to see what i have... grey primer vs wetsanded green
i'm going with Brightside's Sea Green. should i primer my wetsanded green (previous brand) fender or should i primer it like i did with my a-pillar?
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