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Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? #271717
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Anybody got a copy of the dyno sheet from that?

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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: Streetwize] #271718
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if you search mopar muscle's website, it was on there...


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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: patrick] #271719
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Does anybody have the link? I can't find it.


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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: 73cuda340] #271720
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Don't think it's a good test/representation except for really lo-po applications.

Here's a link, hope it works.
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...aust/index.html

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: patrick] #271721
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saw that, couldn't believe those 340 hp exhaust manifolds are only 1 hp gain. May as well buy some headers for the price people ask for those pieces. Still, good article and enjoyed the read. Steve does love his mopars!

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: migsBIG] #271722
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What do the nay sayers have to say abou tti now?

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: babarracuda] #271723
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What do the nay sayers have to say abou tti now?




The $$ per HP gained is alot, that's what I say


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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long hea [Re: babarracuda] #271724
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What do the nay sayers have to say abou tti now?




Run that test on a 600hp SB and see what happens! It isn't and wasn't pretty for tti in that case for the engines I've seen and worked on.

Every header has it's place in the engine world.

$ per hp on the tti, not so good! The cheapy summits are right at $100.

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: Streetwize] #271725
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What i've found from talking to guys at the track and other events is,they're are guys that have tti's and those that wish they had them

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What i've found from talking to guys at the track and other events is,they're are guys that have tti's and those that wish they had them




That's a great joke.

But, don't quit your day job!

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: RobX4406] #271727
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Not only will the TTI make great power on a average 400-500hp motor they also last along time and don't rub on the ground and they also have nice thick flanges that seal realy well really long. I have a set on my car after several of the cheapy sets.

BTW I don't buy that the 340 manifolds would even make much power on a bad street motor over the smaller manifolds, after extrude honeing them a bunch they only pick up a couple hp so I don't think ex flow matters much, the main power gains in the ex are going to come from the tuneing effects of the headers.


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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: RobX4406] #271728
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saw that, couldn't believe those 340 hp exhaust manifolds are only 1 hp gain. May as well buy some headers for the price people ask for those pieces.




The main reason I run the 340hp manifolds on my car is because they are original Headers are obviously going to offer more HP, personally I'll give up any HP gain headers offer for the quiet sound of manifolds and a 100% original style full exhaust system. Stock exhaust also helps keep engine bay and interior temps down. It just depends on what your personal priorities are

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #271729
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i ran a set of tti's on a 68 dart 340 ,and the fitment was perfect,and they replace some headman junk.but the engine was a 350-400 hp,so the perf. wasnt an issue.worth the price vs anything elase imho.

Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #271730
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I bought TTI's just because of the ground clearance they provide. If they fit then that justifies the extra $$$ for me, even if the cheaper headers produce very similiar numbers on the dyno.

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What i've found from talking to guys at the track and other events is,they're are guys that have tti's and those that wish they had them




That's a great joke.

But, don't quit your day job!




Joke,thats a fact...ask anyone who owns them,and they did an excellent job on my 520h.p. smallblock

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I think TTIs are great and would like to have a set but at $700 plus it wont happen. Mopar smallblocks are where the TTIs really shine because the tubes dont run low. Why couldnt Hedman have designed that smallblock shorty to fit in A bodies?- Like that crminal Harold and his Spitfire headers?


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What i've found from talking to guys at the track and other events is,they're are guys that have tti's and those that wish they had them




That's a great joke.

But, don't quit your day job!




Joke,thats a fact...ask anyone who owns them,and they did an excellent job on my 520h.p. smallblock




A fact in your mind only.

I own them and they are nice, but not right or anywhere close to the best for some of the engines I've had. So your statement on it's face is absolutely incorrect saying racer that didn't, wish they had them. I know people that wouldn't run tti headers if they were given to them because they are flat wrong for the intended use.

I'd run dougs before running tti headers because they fit the same, great quality and up to $200+ less expensive. That's an alternative that people tend to forget. Have both dougs and tti, dougs from now on in my SB a bodies.

must be sam's persnal assistant or something.

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What i've found from talking to guys at the track and other events is,they're are guys that have tti's and those that wish they had them




That's a great joke.

But, don't quit your day job!




Joke,thats a fact...ask anyone who owns them,and they did an excellent job on my 520h.p. smallblock




A fact in your mind only.

I own them and they are nice, but not right or anywhere close to the best for some of the engines I've had. So your statement on it's face is absolutely incorrect saying racer that didn't, wish they had them. I know people that wouldn't run tti headers if they were given to them because they are flat wrong for the intended use.

I'd run dougs before running tti headers because they fit the same, great quality and up to $200+ less expensive. That's an alternative that people tend to forget. Have both dougs and tti, dougs from now on in my SB a bodies.

must be sam's persnal assistant or something.




Geez,you sound just like that guy Crackedback over on F.A.B.O....

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Are the TTi's tubes equal length? A bud who run's a W-2 E body said "I wouldn't run that junk" about the TTi's". I'm not sure what he meant
I have a Cuda and all my W-2 stuff waiting. I have a set of Headman Hustlers and thought about the TTi's since the design would better suit my street car needs, no adapter, no double gaskets etc and no slip tubes leaking. Still not sure if I will or not. I know there is a difference of opinions and I would like to see factual data to support why "to run" or "not to run" the TTi's?

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Re: Steve Dulcich test of SB manifolds vs shrt/long headrs? [Re: UCUDANT] #271736
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TTI's are not equal length. but on the flip side, they aren't total junk either Don, (B3422W5) on the race board went 10.70's in a 3400 lb all steel duster running a 416 with ported eddie heads, flat tappet solid, and TTI steps....


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