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Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: Fab64] #2691789
08/27/19 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Fab64
Originally Posted by AndyF
All depends how you do it. If I was doing the swap I'd get rid of all of the OEM controls on the engine and use an aftermarket EFI computer such as a Holley system. I'm not sure I'd use a 904 trans with that engine though. Seems like you might want something with more speeds and maybe something that can be electronically controlled. Again, it just depends on what you're trying to accomplish. (And how much money you have)


Thanks for the ideas. Just exploring options at this point, a lot of this stuff is new to me. I'd also prefer to keep costs down, if possible (dream on!).




There is no way to keep costs down on a project like that. You'll have $20,000 invested to just get the engine swapped in and the car running. By the time you finish the interior, do all the body work, wire the car, build a new dash that works with the new engine you'll have $50K in the car. If you want a fun car just go buy a new one. If you want to create something unique then do it, but it won't be cheap.

Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: AndyF] #2691949
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i envision a swap like this should include a person buying a totaled "whatever", that has a complete drivetrain, and use all the related components as required.
i believe this would be money well spent.
beer

Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: Fab64] #2691967
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With a V8 8 3/4 disc brakes, my 68 cuda was 3070 so your motor should knock off a couple hundred pounds or in other words right in the size of a stratus or so, you'll have plenty of gidy up. The 904 will be just fine, they came factory behind some 245 HP 360s and the motor will not like being lugged down and if it turns 3000 so what? A 904 from an early 2.5 dakota should bolt up and work great. The later 2.5 from a dakota that is built off the Jeep engine probably has a different bolt patter. If you do really think you need OD than a 42RE can easily be built to take that but I am not aware of one with the correct bell housing. Were not talking and engine with a 3.5 or 4 inch stroke and boat anchor pistons so 3000RPM is no big deal. Use a computer from a manual trans car and it will function just fine with the 904. The 8.25 rear will be fine also, they came in 1/2 ton trucks and held up just fine.


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Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: poorboy] #2691970
08/27/19 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by poorboy
So I followed the link for the Lancer build and I see the link ended without completion. was it another failed project, or was it ever finished and actually driven?


I did a bit more digging and learned the builder is a guy named Richard, who owns (or is employed by?) a shop called Rides By Design, in Richmond, Illinois. I messaged them and learned the project is temporarily on hold due to being too busy with customer's cars. Here is their Facebook page, plus a few other threads I found:
turbo-mopar.com
turbododge,com

Originally Posted by AndyF
There is no way to keep costs down on a project like that. You'll have $20,000 invested to just get the engine swapped in and the car running. By the time you finish the interior, do all the body work, wire the car, build a new dash that works with the new engine you'll have $50K in the car. If you want a fun car just go buy a new one. If you want to create something unique then do it, but it won't be cheap.


That's too bad; I could never spend that much.

Originally Posted by moparx
i envision a swap like this should include a person buying a totaled "whatever", that has a complete drivetrain, and use all the related components as required.
i believe this would be money well spent.
beer


That's actually a great idea. beer

Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: Fab64] #2691984
08/27/19 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fab64


Originally Posted by AndyF
There is no way to keep costs down on a project like that. You'll have $20,000 invested to just get the engine swapped in and the car running. By the time you finish the interior, do all the body work, wire the car, build a new dash that works with the new engine you'll have $50K in the car. If you want a fun car just go buy a new one. If you want to create something unique then do it, but it won't be cheap.


That's too bad; I could never spend that much.



You need to go look at the kind of work Andy does and you'll understand why it would cost him $20k to do just the engine swap. If you're willing to live with a lot less perfection and a whole lot more junkyard engineering and not farm out anything you do not absolutely need to then you can do it for a lot less.

Re: Possible to swap a 2.4 DOHC Turbo into A-body? [Re: Sniper] #2692098
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There are several ways to build a hot rod. A down and dirty fun ride you can actually drive legally on the street doesn't have to break the bank, but it will cost some money, the days of a $2,000 hot rod are well over. A shrewd guy might be able to get a down and dirty hot rod to the street for $2,000, but he won't be driving it long before he is adding more function (and money) into the hot rod.
The more refined you get, the more is costs. A show quality custom build ride can get pretty expensive. Paint and body work is expensive, even if you can do it yourself. Gene

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