Re: Starter clicking
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07/09/19 10:11 AM
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When you put a powerglide behind a Mopar engine it’s never a bolt it on and go situation. Every setup is different and has to be setup for proper engagement. Some I had to cut the nose off, some needed a 1/2 inch shim, and some needed 1/8.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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07/09/19 12:34 PM
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 07/09/19 12:35 PM.
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Re: Starter clicking
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07/09/19 01:25 PM
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RapidRobert
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"machine gun" clicking at the starter is inadequate voltage (amperage) at the starter (solenoid) itself. Start at the beginning (battery) & work downstream including ground paths
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: RapidRobert]
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07/09/19 02:15 PM
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CMcAllister
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Is all of the current for the solenoid being run through the NS switch? Stock starter relay?
Change it over to a Ford style relay, jumper on the starter for starter solenoid, type set-up. Fix the grounds, especially if you are using rubber mounts.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: CMcAllister]
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07/09/19 03:06 PM
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Neil
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It may be a wiring issue. My brother has the Ford solenoid and his mini starter did it. Had to carry a small hammer around and tap the starter every so often. His buddy had him switch the wiring around and that solved it. I will ask him what he did to fix it...
Edit: Do you have a Ford solenoid in the car? They can be wired wrong and the car will still start sometimes, and sometimes not.
Last edited by Neil; 07/09/19 08:47 PM.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: Dyno Donnie]
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07/10/19 03:07 AM
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I'm guessing you have an alignment problem. If the starter is clicking but the bendix isn't throwing out its jammed. Could be the engagement / mesh is off and pushing the bendix off to one side, after a few goes it's enough to damage it and then jam.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: Neil]
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07/10/19 10:59 AM
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The correct way is to run both big cables to the large post on one side, one from battery positive, the other to the main starter post. The opposite big post needs the small wire to the small post on the starter solenoid.
The incorrect way he had it before on the two big battery positive to one side of the large Ford solenoid post and the other to the big post cable to the main starter positive. This overheats the contacts inside the solenoid and makes them stick when the two large cables are on opposite sides of the Ford solenoid. Your car may not have a GM style relay like my brothers car has.
He did give me a diagram of it that I can scan and e-mail to you if you need it. Sorry but this is definitely wrong. You are not using the ford solenoid for its intentions. the purpose is to put the load across the solenoid that's what they are designed for. on the starter run a wire from the large terminal to the small one, put the main battery terminal on one side of the ford solenoid the other go's to starter. So when it is activated it will power up the wire going down to starter.
Last edited by JAKE68; 07/10/19 11:03 AM.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: JAKE68]
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07/10/19 11:30 AM
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From what I understand there is a "continuous duty" furd solenoid that you run the main cables on either side of it
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: RapidRobert]
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07/10/19 11:34 AM
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CMcAllister
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From what I understand there is a "continuous duty" furd solenoid that you run the main cables on either side of it A starter should be run with an "intermittent" duty unit. They are built for that purpose. And cables can be swapped either way on the main lugs. They aren't polarity sensitive. It's just a switch connecting the two together.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Starter clicking
[Re: Neil]
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07/10/19 04:48 PM
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The correct way is to run both big cables to the large post on one side, one from battery positive, the other to the main starter post. The opposite big post needs the small wire to the small post on the starter solenoid.
The incorrect way he had it before on the two big battery positive to one side of the large Ford solenoid post and the other to the big post cable to the main starter positive. This overheats the contacts inside the solenoid and makes them stick when the two large cables are on opposite sides of the Ford solenoid. Your car may not have a GM style relay like my brothers car has.
He did give me a diagram of it that I can scan and e-mail to you if you need it. If you wire it the way you explain your only using the solenoid to activate the small wire which is then the same as what a mopar is already wired to do.
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