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Re: high level restorations [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #266538
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Notice there are two * in that word? What could that spell that's non PG if one were to fill in the blanks?







Hhmmmm... ..... is it?!?...ummmmm... lets see now....hmmmm....Derelict?!?

Re: high level restorations #266539
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Dave, no more Pm's





That is what happens when you have a run in with a moderator......you know, the guys who really have no business taking active part in these threads. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Rules only apply when they are in parallel to their particular agenda. You bruise or brush up against their ego and they wait for any opportune time to react! Quite honestly I think that a governing or supervising body has no business rubbing elbows (and in some instances instigating) with their subjects. Remember the chaperons on college trips? Of course you don't! They were not mingling with those they were in charge of overseeing. They stayed on the perimeter and did their job when things got out of hand. I don't remember them drinking and chumming it up with the guys or picking up girls...... Its called a conflict of interest!

Anyway, I have made the tags you are talking about. I never got around to advertising or promoting them. I will have Jon D. post a couple of sample pictures tomorrow.

Re: high level restorations [Re: ECS] #266540
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BTW Dave, YOU NAILED that decal reproduction, NICE WORK!




I don't know, but from an artist's point of view, I think I see some stuff that's not 100%.

Re: high level restorations [Re: pinkduster] #266541
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By all means, feel free to fix it!
By the way....how many times in your "artistic" life do you think you have written your name (twice) the exact same way?

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By all means, feel free to fix it!
By the way....how many times in your "artistic" life do you think you have written your name (twice) the exact same way?




Actually, I could.

If your arguement is that Carter could have had more than one vendor for their labels... Then yes, you'd be correct.

If they had only one vendor, and the printer used the same printing plates every time they printed the label (as is common practice)... Then the label should be the same every time. Well, there could be slight color variations due to ink and pressure variables. But the Trademark and registration symbols shouldn't change like these appear to. And their seems to be a very, very slight font issue and maybe a slight issue with the little car logo... But it is hard to tell in the pic.

Over all, it is a VERY nice reproduction with nice art work. The minor variations that I see certainly wouldn't be noticed while stuck on a carb on an engine in a car. However, I'd be sweetin' it out if I was using it as documentation to get in and out of a country.

Re: high level restorations [Re: Paul Jacobs] #266543
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....So were original washer jugs installed on the assembly line and parked in showrooms stark white or slightly yellowed?


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Re: high level restorations [Re: ECS] #266544
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We will have NO reproduction parts on the Valiant.... Original to the car or NOS pieces. Absolutely No repo parts!




Dave, I thought you mentioned somewhere before that items such as paper tags and wire harness tags will be replaced with reproductions where necessary?

I'm still very facinated by the whole concept of this project, but like most people...I wish you were doing it to a nicer type of car


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Re: high level restorations [Re: pinkduster] #266545
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Every decal I make is done as an overlay in the MAC program Illustrator. They are about as close of a match as you can possibly get. The one pictured is a prototype sample that was printed on a toner based Xerox, four color laser machine. The images (like the registered trademarked logos) did not show up because the decal is lying on the carb at an angle and the natural light did not capture it’s true appearance. I can assure you that they match. Same for the color. It has not been type set printed so the PMS colors have not been selected or matched. When it is complete, it will indistinguishable from the original. Even the two original sample tags that are opposite of one another (on this carburetor) are not a mirrored match. One had crisp lettering and the other has smeared or ghost characteristics. I formatted mine from the better of the two samples. I hope my citizenship is not in jeopardy because I chose the lesser of the two decals. Scott S…please help! Am I in trouble here?

Re: high level restorations [Re: anlauto] #266546
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Dave, I thought you mentioned somewhere before that items such as paper tags and wire harness tags will be replaced with reproductions where necessary?

I'm still very facinated by the whole concept of this project, but like most people...I wish you were doing it to a nicer type of car




So far, just about every decal has been in excellent condition and will not need to be replaced. The originals have cleaned up very nicely. I will post some grouped pictures of the tags when I get a chance. (I don't think I should abandon the project or call it a failure if a label or two needs to be replaced. There will be plenty of time for criticizing and bashing after the show. Lets wait and see what actually happens between now and then!)

A nicer car? This will end up blowing the Cuda and Challenger away! If you mean more of a "performance" car....been there done that! It is time that the Chrysler hobby has the essence and backbone of it's heritage commemorated. Those were the type of cars that helped build the Chrysler Corporation. If anything, the Hemis and SixPacks were a loss leader for them. Image and corporate recognition was the purpose for those cars. The Six cylinder Valiant was the quintessential cornerstone that the company was built on in the late sixties and early seventies. Don't take my word for it Alan. I was told this about three months ago by the Vice President of Operations for Chrysler!

Re: high level restorations [Re: anlauto] #266547
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You guys, please keep in mind that Dave made those carb decals for me as a favor (read, no charge, just being a nice guy). If I use 50 sets of them in my lifetime I'll be surprised, nobody will be making a cent from them. So, with that in mind I am not going to nit pick over some extrememly minor font issues that I'm sure Dave could fix if he were pushed to (which he won't be).

*But Dave, don't think you're off the hook on your other reproductions, you can count on me to look for every inconsistancy I can find....Booha, Boohhahaha! Boohahahahha!

Re: high level restorations [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #266548
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Scott my man, you should know by now that money has never been my motivation to manufacture correct reproduction parts. My motto is that 100 years from now, correct will STILL be correct!

PS.... Will you still be my good buddy after all the smoke clears and this fighting is over?

Re: high level restorations [Re: ECS] #266549
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Sure I guess I'll keep you on my "friend" list, afterall you asked so nicely and all.


Re: high level restorations [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #266550
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You guys have too much time on your hands... Now you should debate whether "high level restorations" means: to original standards (which weren't very high). or to modern standards, where all the flaws are corrected (like the ugly yellowed washer bottles!)


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Re: high level restorations [Re: smac77] #266551
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Just for uhhh.."reference".These are originals on my 69.
You make the call.
Nice repop on the Quad sticker. I have 2 and might just need a couple later.

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Re: high level restorations [Re: Bee4Me] #266552
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Poor washer bottle....

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Re: high level restorations [Re: Bee4Me] #266553
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Actually need them for real.

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Re: high level restorations [Re: Bee4Me] #266554
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Actually need them for real.




Ummm, for "real"? So do I which is why I asked Dave to reproduce them for me


Re: high level restorations [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #266555
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so with all the experience,education and knowledge we have been discussing can a simple common man answer the first question without 2 pages of pats on the back and all the advertising?????

Re: high level restorations [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #266556
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I realize that YOU wanted them but "if" Dave is making more than what YOU wanted,I would be interested in some as well.
If not,Fine, My car will still go just as fast without them besides being hidden under the air cleaner anyway.

Re: high level restorations [Re: sixbbl69] #266557
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so with all the experience,education and knowledge we have been discussing can a simple common man answer the first question without 2 pages of pats on the back and all the advertising?????




Have you ever posted anything positive about anyone? If you have I haven't ever seen it.

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