Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/07/18 09:12 PM
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Bearing puller or setup bearings, case spreader if you need it, mag base for dial indicator, someone to show you how. That should cover everything including what others have said.
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/07/18 11:14 PM
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I'm doing mine right now. Polish the front pinion bearing area so you can slide the front pinion bearing on. You'll need the correct size piece of tube to press the pinion head bearing on. I made slip fit test side carrier bearings as well. No need for a case spreader. Remember when adding pinion depth shim, add pinion preload shims and vice versa. I've found the pinion depth tool to be inaccurate. Best start with the old shim and go from there. The final install of the carrier should take some press with a soft face hammer to get it in. So you need a dial indicator, torque wrench, marking compound, tools to remove and install pinion head bearing and side bearings, dial style inch pound torque wrench,race drivers for the pinion bearing races. Most of all patience, as every pinion shim change requires preload shim and side bearing shim changes. Doug
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 04:06 AM
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I suggest making a set of set up bearings for the pinion shaft , You can use the old ones you have for that and use a new set on the new pinion gear The set up bearings inner race will need to be honed out with a small cylinder hone or a flapper wheel on a small dremil bit, your choice They need to be loose enough to slide on with very little pressure, not sloppy loose though This will allow you to experiment with the shims to get it set up dead nuts , Same thing on the carrier bearings inner races also if your reusing a older Dana 60 As already mention a good mag base and dial indicator with a accurate inch lb. torque wrench are needed, buy yourself a complete Dodge or Plymouth factory service manual, 1966 to 1971, and read the Dana 60 rear end section thoroughly so you under stand exactly what you need to do to get the pinion depth and the ring gear pattern within tolerances on setting up both the ring gear and the pinion bearing depth and preload along with the backlash and carrier bearing preload as well as getting both(coast and drivepatterns) patterns correct I have never used a case spreader, I use two pry bars to pry the case out of the housing and a plastic mallet to install it using the carrier bearings as the guide into the carrier bearing seats Using this methods requires you to find out EXACTLY what zero carrier bearing preload shims are needed to achieve that, once you have that then you need to add from .013 to .017 more shim width to get the proper carrier bearing preload, use what your FSM recommends Setting up a Dana 60 is like anything new, the first time is usually the hardest
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 04:11 AM
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Same as everyone else has said. Agree on set up bearings, Also there’s tons of build ups online and other things because that axle is used in the front end of most rock crawlers. I have done a lot of axles in trucks and never used a case spreader. Pry bars etc have worked for me.
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 12:55 PM
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Lots of good advise here.
Don't forget to bring patience of biblical proportions, an undying will for perfection, and the ability to find joy in taking things apart, and putting them back together, endless times. lol.
Seriously, if you're pulling a good gear out. Keep every piece of it together as a setup. Same spool, or carrier, bearings, shims whatever. Then if you ever want to return to that ratio/set up, it's a bolt it in, no setup required, and go cat go.
Like Jbody said,,side adjusters are just too cool for words.
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 01:25 PM
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Someone had a good post recently about taking a fine flat file and spending a few minutes deburing gears before starting assembly. I know that a few minutes removing the high spots around the bolt holes from threading them sure makes things easier.
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 04:04 PM
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Set up bearings are great but expensive. You can make your own pinion set up bearing, like Cab mentioned, but you'll want to use a new bearing which means you're purchasing two expensive bearings. Shims under the cup race is easier but requires an assortment of shims made for that cup.
You can purchase a set up bearing through Randy's or make your own, but honing a bearing cone race is time consuming and will wear out a set of honing stones before you've removed enough material for a slip-on fit. I've done it. It'll require you to increase the ID about .004". And this is bearing material!
Another option to all this bearing on and off crap is to use a pinion depth tool. The good ones will cost more than you'll want to spend unless you're doing this for a living, but a cheap one can be had from Summit or Jegs for about $80, Ratech makes a simple tool, but requires bearing removal. #10009 for $29.
Last edited by Moparteacher; 12/08/18 04:05 PM.
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Re: What tools do I need to set up a dana?
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12/08/18 08:25 PM
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The rag trick for popping the carrier out is the best trick I learned. Roll a rag in between the ring and pinion mesh and pry on the ring gear bolts.
Last edited by 65Fury440; 12/08/18 08:26 PM.
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