Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
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11/24/18 01:21 AM
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Iowan
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That's about 8 grand in parts, you had better start saving your allowance money.
Have a great day Iowan
"obsolete is neat"
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
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11/24/18 03:48 AM
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AndyF
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Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
Asking questions on a forum is like withdrawing from a bank of goodwill. If you never make any deposits into that bank then there isn't anything to withdraw. As far as I can tell, you've never provided any answers on this forum. If you never answer any questions yourself then eventually people refuse to answer your questions. Why should anyone help you if you don't help them?
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: AndyF]
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11/24/18 04:18 AM
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70charger512
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Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
Asking questions on a forum is like withdrawing from a bank of goodwill. If you never make any deposits into that bank then there isn't anything to withdraw. As far as I can tell, you've never provided any answers on this forum. If you never answer any questions yourself then eventually people refuse to answer your questions. Why should anyone help you if you don't help them? Because is a forum not a place for experts to help out people who dont know as much....I apologize for not having 40 years of engine building experience under my wing. If I had the knowledge you guys do Id gladly be helping out. Also, if I did answer questions in other forums, the people who have been rude here would respond and say "dont listen to this guy he just asked me a million questions, hes a beginner".
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
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11/24/18 10:43 AM
11/24/18 10:43 AM
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Jeremiah
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The best way I can explain it is this-
I have been following this board for a loooong time and ther big block combo", etc. These threads have been hashed out, compiled and digested over and over before you time and it's important to understand that.
To my point, if you ask what you need to do to make 550hp in a 3800lb car you will get a pile of slam dunk answers. At that point you have solid empirical data from first hand operators. It's okay to ask questions about the information granted to you however it is not typically well received when you challenge first hand information from the hands-on crowd with second-hand information from the web, magazines, etc. If you do inject that sort of thing into the subject prepare to take cover, shots will be fired lol. This forum makes paper magazine obsolete IMO. I haven't picked up a car magazine in years. It happens here in real time.
To finish driving this home I'll use my last engine build as an example. I wanted to make 725-750 hp for my '66 Charger. Pretty straight forward deal with a 4.25" stroke crank, etc. While the 511-512" 400 based short block is customary in the Mopar world I elected to use Edelbrock Victor MW heads against the reports/advice from at least 5 people on the board. Between the casting issues, reportedly inflated CNC ported numbers and midget installed height they were not highly looked upon. The consensus from this board was to build an Indy -1 headed engine with paired rocker gear and be done with it. Tried and true combo right down to the cam shaft selection. No sir, I would not listen to logic. I had to have that MW Victor motor. In the end I'd have probably had the same money in a higher quality, better flowing top end package with less headaches had I gone the -1 route. That resounds with me deeply as my other hotrod has a set of those -1 head and paired Jesel's waiting for it.
I'm laying this out for you so you realize I'm not picking on you having been in the same boat. I'm also saying that arguing magazine articles with a bunch of old grumpy guys that write magazine tech articles is not a winning plan. Work with you engine builder and have faith in his plan to meet your goals. Otherwise you will be effectively second guessing everyone against each other. As you see asking for a HP number that was picked from the air is not a good plan. If you said hey I want my Charger to wax a new 5.0's plastic a$$ they can help you figure out how much power you need and go from there. Shooting for a number for the sake of doing so it cool however you aren't dealing with the Fonzi car show crowd here, there are real gear heads.
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: AndyF]
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11/24/18 01:11 PM
11/24/18 01:11 PM
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Pacnorthcuda
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Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
Asking questions on a forum is like withdrawing from a bank of goodwill. If you never make any deposits into that bank then there isn't anything to withdraw. As far as I can tell, you've never provided any answers on this forum. If you never answer any questions yourself then eventually people refuse to answer your questions. Why should anyone help you if you don't help them? I disagree. Most everyone here is more than willing to help a newcomer that appears on the scene with lots of car questions. Not a problem. But when the person keeps asking the same questions over and over (camshaft powerbands is a good example in this case) and rephrases them in order to get the response he's fishing for, gets the response, and then states to the rest of us "see kids, was that so difficult?" Well, you get the picture. And he thinks we're rude. LOL....OK.
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
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11/24/18 01:14 PM
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Superfreak
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Maybe he is a chevy guy and is just here to aggravate you guys. LOL
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/24/18 01:16 PM
11/24/18 01:16 PM
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Pacnorthcuda
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Maybe he is a chevy guy and is just here to aggravate you guys. LOL That's funny you should say say that, I was going to say "maybe he should build a Chevy"
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: AndyF]
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11/24/18 01:23 PM
11/24/18 01:23 PM
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Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va
plycuda
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Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
Asking questions on a forum is like withdrawing from a bank of goodwill. If you never make any deposits into that bank then there isn't anything to withdraw. As far as I can tell, you've never provided any answers on this forum. If you never answer any questions yourself then eventually people refuse to answer your questions. Why should anyone help you if you don't help them? so please if your new to this site please don't ask any questions. Really
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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11/24/18 01:58 PM
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pittsburghracer
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Maybe he is a chevy guy and is just here to aggravate you guys. LOL That's funny you should say say that, I was going to say "maybe he should build a Chevy" r I heard LS Chevy engines were a Black Friday item at Walmart
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: plycuda]
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11/24/18 02:34 PM
11/24/18 02:34 PM
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Thumperdart
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Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
Asking questions on a forum is like withdrawing from a bank of goodwill. If you never make any deposits into that bank then there isn't anything to withdraw. As far as I can tell, you've never provided any answers on this forum. If you never answer any questions yourself then eventually people refuse to answer your questions. Why should anyone help you if you don't help them? so please if your new to this site please don't ask any questions. Really I get the frustration from the many asked questions and sadly some peeps on here THINK they're smarter than they are so you get the snuff but don't feel bad, I've been on here for several years and anytime a carb topic comes up w/my name involved, crickets. And as someone eluded to it is a CLICK weather you like it or not and 1/2 you guys should be ashamed for the way you treated a NEW member trying to gain knowledge which we ALL have struggled with over the years............Unlike some of these clowns I will help ya in any way I can with what little info I have.............Dominic 760-900-3895...............
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: Thumperdart]
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11/24/18 03:04 PM
11/24/18 03:04 PM
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BradH
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... 1/2 you guys should be ashamed for the way you treated a NEW member trying to gain knowledge which we ALL have struggled with over the years............Unlike some of these clowns I will help ya in any way I can... We're friends, so you don't have to mince words: Are you putting me in that '1/2 you guys should be ashamed' group?
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
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11/24/18 04:15 PM
11/24/18 04:15 PM
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dannysbee
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I'm sorry but I am rolling on the floor laughing. Rent due Thumper? Lol
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: 70charger512]
#2582449
11/24/18 04:51 PM
11/24/18 04:51 PM
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Iowan
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You cant help those who will not help them selves.
A forum is not the place for an education, basic knowledge is needed in engin building before you can build for horse power, you can't modify what you dont know.
He has been told repeatedly to obtain books on building the big block mopar, in my world that's good advice.
Unfortunately he blows it off as an insult.
Have a great day Iowan
"obsolete is neat"
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Re: 440 stroker?
[Re: Moparteacher]
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11/24/18 05:28 PM
11/24/18 05:28 PM
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Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va
plycuda
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mopar
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"A forum is not a place for an education."
With all due respect, that is nonsensical. Every site, every location, every situation, every question is a place for an education.
If you don't want to teach then don't. If you don't want to educate then don't. If you don't want to mentor then don't. If you don't want to share your knowledge and/or experiences then don't. And, if you don't want to learn from this site or the vast knowledge that is offered then don't.
There is a wealth of of knowledge on this board. Participants of all levels, but it is painfully obvious there are few that can mentor or educate without taking offense to a learner that questions what is offered.
Furthermore, maybe we all can benefit from learning a lesson, or two, in social media decorum. thank you on the money
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