Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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I am a firm believer that holds true in just about any motor sport where there is competition, in order to be and remain competetive, cubic dollars will rule. I agree. $$$$$ plus brains will always comeout on top eventually, as the competition sharpens up and things get competitive in the extreme. The ability to try more things due to extra$$$ will win the day. In a back handed way, Bob Glidden said it best. "We are all idiots; the guy that trys the most stuff wins" I don't agree with the idiot part, but Bob kept about a 100 hr per week work schedule, and ruled ProStock for years as a result.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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And my car has set in the basement for basically 8 years because of this. Anybody want to buy a fast Colt? Don't build it to be the fastest guy, just make it run and have fun with it.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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One of my favorite Meme's Jeff Verdi is the racer I believe, raking in the big bucks with an old dually and an open trailer.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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I have been doing some index racing the last couple of years, its heads up, does`t cost a fortune and there are plenty of average Joes. Of course the lower the index the more it cost 10.00 and 8.50 for example.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Index racing is not heads up Racing. It’s index Racing just like the super classes that most guys hate and bad mouth.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Sorry don't agree , both cars leave together first to stripe wins, both dialed the same that to me is heads up, however it is like the super classes minus the electronics at least in 11.50 and 12.50 even then only a trans brake is allowed but not in 12.50 according to Northeast Index Racers Assoc. rules which are the rules most of the index tracks around here use. I know there are other types of " heads up " racing that are completely different.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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What-ever but in index racing the first to the stripe doesn't always win. Not if he runs UNDER the index. If you want to call yourself a heads-up racer to your buddies go right ahead BUT in real life you are an index racer. Kinda like bracket racer only someone else is setting your dial.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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What-ever but in index racing the first to the stripe doesn't always win. Not if he runs UNDER the index. If you want to call yourself a heads-up racer to your buddies go right ahead BUT in real life you are an index racer. Kinda like bracket racer only someone else is setting your dial. To the spectators it "appears" heads up tho. Kevin
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Ok Mr can`t race Chryslers at Carlisle/South Mountain because its 1/8 mile then start bragging about 1/8 racing a few months later. What ever
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Semantics to me. Heads up means both cars leave together with no handicap. Some heads up racing is also with breakout rules in effect. Then there's pro tree, heads up with breakout rules, like Super Gas, which is a lot of fun BTW.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Typical Moparts get crucified for an opinion why do I even bother, I`m done
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Wally parks just hit mach 7 spinning into the core of the earth to distance himself from these non racers running nhra right into oblivion
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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There is no breakout in a heads up race. A index race is just a bracket race where everyone runs on the same dial. Bingo. This guy gets it.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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There is no breakout in a heads up race. A index race is just a bracket race where everyone runs on the same dial. Bingo. This guy gets it. You know the sport is in dire waters when drag racers don't differentiate between index and heads up racing. They ain't the same. Throttle stop racing sucks. Yes I've done it. I'd rather go bowling. I'd rather have two cars line up, handicap start and run flat out to the finish. We barely have that any more. Guys running 9.90 at 170 (or better). Silly really. And virtually every single guy I know who isn't a drag racer never "gets" why the cars move 2 feet and shut off.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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NHRA doesn't destroy anything. People with big egos and big wallets coming in and spending millions to make hundreds are what screws it up. Don't want to spend it? Go buy a lower class Stocker. Plenty of those for sale, cheap. And NHRA allows it to happen, so yes, they are to blame.
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Re: The hits to Pro Stock Camaro keep coming.
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Well let's see. First sentence of the Super Gas section of the NHRA rulebook. "Super Gas cars race on a 9.900 standard (that's the index) using a heads-up, .4-second Pro Tree." I don't make this stuff up. And heads up, pro tree, .90 racing is fun. Not easy, but fun.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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