Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block #2570196
10/27/18 01:57 PM
10/27/18 01:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
M
mshred Offline OP
master
mshred  Offline OP
master
M

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
Only limiters being have to run pump gas (no E85) and not in a rail car or other 2000lb tin can, how would you (or better yet, how HAVE you) build it???

Doesnt have to be deep in the 9's, but a solid pass after pass 9 second ride (in the 1/4 mile of course lol)

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570199
10/27/18 02:02 PM
10/27/18 02:02 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,534
bronx n.y
O
one bad fish Offline
pro stock
one bad fish  Offline
pro stock
O

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,534
bronx n.y
Originally Posted By mshred
Only limiters being have to run pump gas (no E85) and not in a rail car or other 2000lb tin can, how would you (or better yet, how HAVE you) build it???

Doesnt have to be deep in the 9's, but a solid pass after pass 9 second ride (in the 1/4 mile of course lol)
its definitely do able

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570210
10/27/18 02:29 PM
10/27/18 02:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,635
Oakland, MI
D
dizuster Offline
master
dizuster  Offline
master
D

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,635
Oakland, MI
Goes without saying but...the lighter the car, the less difficult and expensive it would be on the motor side.

A 3000lb A body, is going to require a HUGE difference in motor compared to a 3700lb b pr e body.

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: dizuster] #2570223
10/27/18 02:56 PM
10/27/18 02:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
pittsburghracer Online work
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Online Work
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
I’m thinking it would be very doable but a project I have zero interest in. My sons stock crank 360 has gone several 6.54’s in the 1/8 (3200 pounds) which would be 10.20-10.30’s in the 1/4. It’s on alcohol but with pump gas compression and even with the less desired open chamber 340 style Edelbrock heads. The small 600 lift roller cam is missing out on the 318 cfm @ .700’lift these heads put out. I would also step up his 4.10 gear slightly in place of his 750 alcohol carb a 1050 dominator would be tried. The heads would be cut for better quench for sure for BP 93. My Duster although a light weight (2820 at the time) easily went 9.80’s on pump gas BP 93 with a mildly ported set of W2 heads and a mild roller cam. A nice ported set of 360-1 heads, ported indy intake, and a nice roller cam packaged in a Stroker engine should be a cake walk on pump junk.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570233
10/27/18 03:12 PM
10/27/18 03:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,400
Trumbauersville PA
ric3xrt Offline
pro stock
ric3xrt  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,400
Trumbauersville PA
Any limits on cubic inch?


Truth has no agenda, but those with an agenda make their own truth.
Some of us are so open minded they only see their View



Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570237
10/27/18 03:24 PM
10/27/18 03:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,824
Wind Gap,Pa.
S
Sammy Offline
top fuel
Sammy  Offline
top fuel
S

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,824
Wind Gap,Pa.
I am doing it now with W5 heads. 9.67-9.70

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Sammy] #2570246
10/27/18 03:46 PM
10/27/18 03:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,534
bronx n.y
O
one bad fish Offline
pro stock
one bad fish  Offline
pro stock
O

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,534
bronx n.y
Originally Posted By Sammy
I am doing it now with W5 heads. 9.67-9.70
what does the car weigh

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570256
10/27/18 04:07 PM
10/27/18 04:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,559
New Smyrna Beach FL
S
scottb Offline
pro stock
scottb  Offline
pro stock
S

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,559
New Smyrna Beach FL
What the specs on the engine

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: ric3xrt] #2570260
10/27/18 04:17 PM
10/27/18 04:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
M
mshred Offline OP
master
mshred  Offline OP
master
M

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Any limits on cubic inch?


Nope! Just like the original post says, must be pump fuel (not e85) and not a rail car and has to be n/a

Lighter Weight for sure makes things easier on parts, but still curious to hear the combos out there

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Sammy] #2570261
10/27/18 04:18 PM
10/27/18 04:18 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
M
mshred Offline OP
master
mshred  Offline OP
master
M

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
Originally Posted By Sammy
I am doing it now with W5 heads. 9.67-9.70


Definitely know guys are doing it, was looking to maybe have some share a bit about the combo they have if they are doing it

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570264
10/27/18 04:22 PM
10/27/18 04:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
pittsburghracer Online work
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Online Work
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By Sammy
I am doing it now with W5 heads. 9.67-9.70


Definitely know guys are doing it, was looking to maybe have some share a bit about the combo they have if they are doing it



Are you going to park that motorcycle and get the car back out again?


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570271
10/27/18 04:49 PM
10/27/18 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,448
Phoenix, AZ
M
MoparBilly Offline
master
MoparBilly  Offline
master
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,448
Phoenix, AZ
By N/A, you mean "Nitrous Assisted"...right?


"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570274
10/27/18 04:54 PM
10/27/18 04:54 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,391
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,391
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Eazy Peezy with a G3 Hemi at 3000lbs...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: pittsburghracer] #2570276
10/27/18 05:00 PM
10/27/18 05:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
M
mshred Offline OP
master
mshred  Offline OP
master
M

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By Sammy
I am doing it now with W5 heads. 9.67-9.70


Definitely know guys are doing it, was looking to maybe have some share a bit about the combo they have if they are doing it



Are you going to park that motorcycle and get the car back out again?


Who said this post is about me? Just curious, ya know?

Last edited by mshred; 10/27/18 05:07 PM.
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Dragula] #2570277
10/27/18 05:01 PM
10/27/18 05:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
M
mshred Offline OP
master
mshred  Offline OP
master
M

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,415
Toronto
Originally Posted By Dragula
Eazy Peezy with a G3 Hemi at 3000lbs...


Hmmmmmm, I dunno about that...I'd need to see more examples that prove it without any power adders

Last edited by mshred; 10/27/18 05:02 PM.
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570278
10/27/18 05:04 PM
10/27/18 05:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,927
Seaford, Va
Kindafast Offline
top fuel
Kindafast  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,927
Seaford, Va
I am hoping to give it a try. I posted about heads in another post and I am really looking for a high 9 second pass. I always run pump gas on my stuff. Flat top 4.10 bore 4" crank. I had open Eddie heads before but now going with the Indy 360-1s and some porting. Roller 6.56 cam and a 950 HP carb.. Oh yea a 8.75 rear end " LOL


6.50 @105.26
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Dragula] #2570287
10/27/18 05:28 PM
10/27/18 05:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
pittsburghracer Online work
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Online Work
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,178
PA.
Originally Posted By Dragula
Eazy Peezy with a G3 Hemi at 3000lbs...



Lol 😂. Yaaaaa right.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: mshred] #2570291
10/27/18 05:50 PM
10/27/18 05:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,027
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish Offline
master
Bad340fish  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,027
Tulsa OK
Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By Dragula
Eazy Peezy with a G3 Hemi at 3000lbs...


Hmmmmmm, I dunno about that...I'd need to see more examples that prove it without any power adders


Ray(Sixpackgut) ran into the 9.7s I believe on drag week with a 428" Gen III at 3200lbs pump fuel.


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Bad340fish] #2570293
10/27/18 06:00 PM
10/27/18 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,784
PA
W5DART66 Offline
top fuel
W5DART66  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,784
PA
My 2009 engine masters motor went 9.60s in a street car 140mph 3100lbs 396"
That engine made 660 HP at 7000 rpm
Still running in a D50 down south drives it to the track.


Second car was Brads 422" w9 motor
Was built for spray and we went 9.40s on pump gas 140mph
3150 lbs

I don't feel it's hard to run mid 9s in 2900-3100 lbs car. On pump gas
The pump gas 457" deal I just did should run low 9s

Re: 9 sec. Pump gas, N/A small block [Re: Bad340fish] #2570295
10/27/18 06:04 PM
10/27/18 06:04 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,391
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,391
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Originally Posted By mshred
Originally Posted By Dragula
Eazy Peezy with a G3 Hemi at 3000lbs...


Hmmmmmm, I dunno about that...I'd need to see more examples that prove it without any power adders


Ray(Sixpackgut) ran into the 9.7s I believe on drag week with a 428" Gen III at 3200lbs pump fuel.


Bingo...Drives it 1000 miles and runs 9.80's on pump gas. He has posted his combo on here, and it runs the number.

Last edited by Dragula; 10/27/18 06:06 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1