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457" pump gas w9 motor. #2569969
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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570030
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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570031
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Latest Ritter block
Molnar crank and Rods
Custom icon pistons
11.6 to1
4.200" bore
4.125" stroke
1050 4500 carb.
60mm cam
My w9 CNC program
Steel 2.15" in. 1.60" exhaust.
Tall deck Mopar intake with not much work was done before I got the stuff from engine owner.

Started out with know good carb on race gas
Just switched over to pump gas tonight.

811 HP
670 TQ on race fuel and a good 1150 (did not try to beat on race gas tune)
That was just to make sure it's all good.

Best pull on pump gas so far 804 660.

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570094
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Awesome numbers,are the W9s max effort ?

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570101
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Any issues with the Ritter block? wave


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570105
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Wow! Great build! Looks like for best ET you could keep the rpm below 7500 rpm? What are the head flow numbers?


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570109
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That is awesome!

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No far from max type deal.

It's my small intake port and not the size or type of valve I would use for max effort deal.
Only 2.15" intake valve and they are steel.

This was as budget as we could be so as much as I could use from what he had I did.

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: gregsdart] #2570119
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Originally Posted By gregsdart
Wow! Great build! Looks like for best ET you could keep the rpm below 7500 rpm? What are the head flow numbers?



Yes I think 7500 will be the shift point power is still good at 7500.

Did not flow heads but have done so many w9s they would be in the 360-370 range
Exhaust would be in the 250s

This has small 2.15 intake valve and exhaust valve with wrong shape.

45° valve seats. (Not what I normally use on w9) but locked into using valves and no margin to change seat angle.

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570134
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Originally Posted By W5DART66
It's my small intake port and not the size or type of valve I would use for max effort deal.
Only 2.15" intake valve and they are steel.

What minimum & average CSAs does your "small" port have?

Any more details about the cam you can provide?

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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570151
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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570158
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Wow. Heck yes. I want a Ritter block too!


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570179
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Another great SB build,


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570181
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Nice Work Bret, would this power level work ok without the extra head bolts? I have a 59* R1 in my car with the extra bosses milled off.


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: Bad340fish] #2570213
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Nice Work Bret, would this power level work ok without the extra head bolts? I have a 59* R1 in my car with the extra bosses milled off.



Yea no problem
To get this power with the smaller bore your block will take have to go at it little different.

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570226
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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: W5DART66] #2570460
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Very cool. This raises the bar some.

Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: BradH] #2570512
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Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By W5DART66
It's my small intake port and not the size or type of valve I would use for max effort deal.
Only 2.15" intake valve and they are steel.

What minimum & average CSAs does your "small" port have?

Any more details about the cam you can provide?

Hmmmm... no response. Does this mean I'll have to ask you at Carlisle next year after you frisk me to make sure I'm not recording the conversation? laugh2

Also, you mentioned custom Icon pistons... as in directly from the manufacturer, or modified by someone else? Only asking because I thought they didn't offer anything except their stocking pistons.

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Brett is pretty secretive. He will post up some jewelry on Facebook and then disappear. I made a comment about the deep valve pockets and he posted back he did that to lower the compression. I was kinda surprised by the sharp edges left and was always led to believe edges should be slightly radiased. Looks like a nice combo that won’t have to be shifted as high as some of the W9 stuff.


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Re: 457" pump gas w9 motor. [Re: pittsburghracer] #2570537
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By the looks of the dyno numbers everything was just right 800 hp. On pump junk wow great job.. wrench


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