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Dodges penalized #2547281
09/07/18 05:49 PM
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Here we go. A blind man could see this coming. Where was this when the Cobra Jets were dominating? Politics, much?? I'm having a deja vu back to 1973.......here we go. I've been reminded why I left NHRA and stopped watching it in the first place. Thanks for the reminder before I spent too much money and energy in this. Now they have to weigh 50 pounds more than anyone else. If that doesn't work, NHRA will make them add more. Disgusted.


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547292
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Who called the Wambulance. That didn't take long.
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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547312
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you are right Steve.GM has always made more horsepower in the rule book tan on the track. if you dought that, just look back to the early days of pro stock. every year they had to carry more weight per cubic inch

Re: Dodges penalized [Re: oddjob] #2547326
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I don't think it matters. When I talked to Jeff Turk, he said he couldn't make weight anyway. What's another 50#. LOL

Re: Dodges penalized [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #2547361
09/07/18 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWSSAA
I don't think it matters. When I talked to Jeff Turk, he said he couldn't make weight anyway. What's another 50#. LOL


Yeah, now he's only about 50# over. boogie


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: slantzilla] #2547394
09/07/18 10:19 PM
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they also took 25lbs off the ford and the chevys

Re: Dodges penalized [Re: dodger mope] #2547423
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Come on guys we all know Mopars aren't allowed to be fast or Win races, especially the " Chevrolet Nationals"… While the Fords were protesting each other the Dodges were faster and Winning. Hey bow tie babies and ford turds build more power! I will LMAO if the Dodges still are fast and Win… So typical they can`t get a break in NHRA and before that Nascrap. Longtime Mopar campaigner Jeff Tueton said it all in his post on Classracer.com. Kind of strange though since a Schumacher car Won I thought NHRA kissed his " " well you know. I guess the crybabies have more say than one of the NHRAs biggest campaigners.

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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547501
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Are you trying to tell me that Mopars makes more power and that you are upset by it?
Get your bigboy pants on.

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No, its about the Dodges being faster and the Fords and Chevies not liking it.


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547519
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This is the correction from today.
(Correction to previous post) NHRA Technical Department Makes Parity Adjustments to School of Automotive Machinists & Technology NHRA Factory Stock Showdown Series
Based on performance numbers from the 2018 School of Automotive Machinists & Technology NHRA Factory Stock Showdown Series, the NHRA Technical Department is increasing the minimum weight on all Dodge Challenger Drag Paks from 3,550 pounds to 3,575 pounds. All Chevrolet Camaro COPOs and Ford Mustang Cobra Jets will have a reduction in minimum weight from 3,550 to 3,525 pounds. This rule change will go into effect immediately for the 2018 AAA Insurance NHRA Midwest Nationals.
Doug

Re: Dodges penalized [Re: dvw] #2547523
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I don't remember a " parity adjustment" when the other makes were winning! Is that what they called it in Pro Stock when they made the Dodges uncompetitive? Let face it " parity " means Chevies must Win one way or another. Don't mean to rant I m diehard Mopar and hate to see them penalized for being fast.


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547528
09/08/18 11:12 AM
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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547580
09/08/18 01:15 PM
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Here's a comment from veteran Mopar racer Jeff Teuton,
Today, 01:24 AM #1
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I see NHRA added 50 to the Dodge Factory Cars. I mean the Chevrolet has to win. No Matter what. Only happens when the Dodges win. Don't matter who is working on them or tuning on them, the Chevrolet has to win by hook or crook. Mostly by crook. While we are at it, if you should desire to run a Hellcat in Stock, you only have to weigh 4770 lbs. That is like racing with 4 of me in the back seat. And all the new Stock Chevrolet Camaro are a few hundred lbs lighter than other new stock cars, but it's a Chevrolet. It has to win at any cost.
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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: A/MP] #2547592
09/08/18 01:34 PM
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What a load of crap. I'll never give NHRA $5 in any way. 50 years and they're still doing the same bull.


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547597
09/08/18 01:41 PM
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I am not buying or selling, but the ford engine is the closest to a production piece you will find in this class. The LSX platform is largely production based, and at least you can order all the parts out of a catalog. If you’ve seen the castings up close, it’s obvious it is a 500hp crate engine head, not a race piece. Look at the lifter locations and exhaust ports and the hemi and compare to a production BGE. Mopar had the drawings in hand, just no hard parts to get to racers, this is where DSR is coming in. It’s just been a bit of a learning curve and the dodges are finally getting a handle on their setup.

Who would have ever imagined a blown hemi could make power...


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547627
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A couple a Chevy and Ford guys on the other site are voicing there displeasure also, they just want NHRA to leave them alone and not mess up what's now a good interest in those cars. NHRA can't understand what competition is, like the media, they want to control all aspects.

Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547630
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They've done it before and they will do it again. It would be nice if they let them work it out on their own, but that's not how things work.


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: cudaman1969] #2547631
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The fords SHOULD be kicking everyone's azz.
You can't beat 4 valve head?
Matt

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Originally Posted By MattW
The fords SHOULD be kicking everyone's azz.
You can't beat 4 valve head?
Matt


That whipple blower is well outside it’s operating range. I’m sure the fords would like to spin to the moon, but the blower is just making hot air at that point...


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Re: Dodges penalized [Re: Steve1118] #2547669
09/08/18 06:58 PM
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There's a big thread on Classracer about how Ford is sabotaging their own. Pretty interesting reading, lots of unhappy long time Ford guys.


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